[Clean Dude]

Tap water might rinse soap from frames weller than pure?

[Nathanael Jones]

Strangely enough,.. that actually makes sense!

[JSMC]

reckon this could be a problem in my area a sloads of people getting probs with WFP i am hearing from custy's. TDS is 28ppm

[Nathanael Jones]

So if you're in a soft water area and converting to WFP,.. if you previously used a heavy detergent like Fairy, you'll have serious trouble??

Maybe that explains why some ppl find the changeover so hard, whilst others have no problems at all?!

[JSMC]

So if you're in a soft water area and converting to WFP,.. if you previously used a heavy detergent like Fairy, you'll have serious trouble??

Maybe that explains why some ppl find the changeover so hard, whilst others have no problems at all?!

reckon i am going to struggle then big time

[poleman]

Just word of warning!

On a hot day, dont do the whole house with normal tap water or the windows will stain!

[Bazzy1999]

Food for thought eh?


Maybe, if you used some RO waste water to start with...

That's it!!!!!!!!!  A useful idea for RO waste water!!!!!!  I did it!!

I thought of it first!!

Bagsies..  Shotgun.. !!

Maybe, if you used some RO waste water to start with...

That's it!!!!!!!!!  A useful idea for RO waste water!!!!!!  I did it!!

I thought of it first!!

Bagsies..  Shotgun.. !!

Dont go down that road your get your head bit off...


www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=57954.0


And before you ask it does work (for me)... its still a working project at the moment...



Bazz...

[Bazzy1999]

Oh yeah , I remeber that now, you were shot down in flames weren't you?

Well, for those that live in soft water area, some hard water might be useful for getting rid of the soap from the frame edges.

Shot down.. you are joking    i was nuked 

Bazz...

[Pj]

I remember too, Bazz

Water is strange eh?

Hard water doesn't necessarily absorb less deposits than soft water!  But.....

Caustic soda is the soap (often mixed with animal fat) that gets stuck in the rubber seals, and hard water seems to remove it quicker than soft water, so there is a good argument for the use of hard water on a pre-clean.  

But there could be more..

[jouk45]

its not the water that removes the dirt and soap it is  the scrubbing of the brush, the pure water only washes away the dirt and soap after brushing and rinsing , leaving it spottless as it has no contaminents in the water, pure water is only an aid for sterilising the glass,

[[GQC] Tim]

If you don't use fairy but squeegee off, or GG3/4 you don't leave a film of soap on the glass.

And the whole glass being made sterile, that doesn't make any sense. Sterile is that it has zero micro organisms on the glass. But if you would actually look at the glass under a microscope, all the microscopic valleys will have dirt and living microscopic bacteria and other stuff in them. As far as I know, you sterilize something will alcohol or other chemicals, killing all germs and bacteria and the like. Not by just pure water.

This sterile windows by pure water is really marketing bull, clean yes. Sterile no. They use distilled water in surgery yes, but that's not to sterilize tools etc, that is done by chemicals, ultra pure water is used, so nothing gets contaminated, no foreign substances are introduced to the sterile operation environment.

Sterility in medicine and surgery indicates a micro-environment (the surgical field) made free of infectious micro organisms.

[JSMC]

so squegee off is best product for  cleaning leading upto wfp?

[[GQC] Tim]

so squegee off is best product for  cleaning leading upto wfp?

Or GG3/4, those two are tried methods, there should be others, but I know that those make switching to wfp easy.

[Oakley Windows]

When I went over to WFP from trad I did ALL my custys houses with the water from their outside tap first.

Of course there were those on here who knew better and said the reason I had a complaint from ONE customer after the first clean out of 250 customers was that Id used tapwater on the first clean prior to RO/DI.

[Oakley Windows]

I wanted to be sure I had as few complaints as poss, Id also used GG4 for about 10 months also prior to going over and wiped all frames over on last clean prior to change over. I think it helped.

[[GQC] Tim]

I wanted to be sure I had as few complaints as poss, Id also used GG4 for about 10 months also prior to going over and wiped all frames over on last clean prior to change over. I think it helped.

That did the trick, I don't think the tap water had much impact on it. There was virtually no residue on the glass if you used GG4 for 10 months, also cleaning the frames was very good. The problem is with tap water on the windows, is that in summer that's a royal pain, windows dry very quickly. There is no way I could get away with that with 238tds here.

[[GQC] Tim]

lol

[Oakley Windows]

I wanted to be sure I had as few complaints as poss, Id also used GG4 for about 10 months also prior to going over and wiped all frames over on last clean prior to change over. I think it helped.

That did the trick, I don't think the tap water had much impact on it. There was virtually no residue on the glass if you used GG4 for 10 months, also cleaning the frames was very good. The problem is with tap water on the windows, is that in summer that's a royal pain, windows dry very quickly. There is no way I could get away with that with 238tds here.

I tend to think that a little bit from all the things I did contributed towards a smooth transition.