[cswc]

what is the normal daily charge for one man pressure washing on a site.

they have the eqiupment but no one trained to use it,

would £300 per day be about right!!

thanks

[BDCS]

Their kit - £140, yours £180

[cswc]

Thanks for that,

although i had hoped for a few more replies

[steve_doyle]

agree with bdcs, £300 is way off.

[liahona]

£300, way off maybe but in the wrong direction surely.

Who in their right mind will work for 180 a day?

At 30 an hour for 8 hours is only 240........ still not enough

Best, Dave.

[rob fryer]

When doing commercial work £300 per day is about the min i charge with all costs broke down its not that over the top.

[Andy Foster]

I never use the customer's kit (check your insurance to see if you are covered to do this).
My standard charge is £450 a day plus VAT but have preferential rates for good customers and subcontracting.

Think about it... even on the domestic front, you could do at least two 100 square metre drives a day (probably 3) at say £2 a square metre that gives you any in between £400 and £600 a day, why would you charge less for a day rate?

Andy

[BDCS]

You can charge what you can get - I would never get it here

[liahona]

BDCS, do you ask for it?

 I ask this as a lot of people suggest "they never get that here" and then in the same sentance say they dont ask.

Best, Dave

[BDCS]

I'm in Dover and the place is awash with poles and any other immigrant that they let in willing to work for the minimum wage or less, the original thread was to work their kit on site so that was why I suggested the price but obviously if he thought he could get more than that good luck. A site manager only gets about 25k so I doubt if he will pay £30/hour for jetwashing - 64k/year

[Andy Foster]

Hi BDCS

I understand your predicament regarding immigrant workers and their willingness to work for next to nothing, it is a real pain sometimes.

However your comments about the site manager not wanting to pay the jet washer guy more than he himself is getting paid is a little unsubstantiated.  He is not paying you 64k a year to jetwash, he is paying you a fixed fee for a job he needs doing, based on your skill and expertise as a professional in your field.
If you take your car to the garage to be fixed, they charge you for doing the job and you do not even question how long it took them.  This is because you have a need and they have the expertise and knowledge on how to fulfill that need.

Even using their kit, you should be looking at what you want to earn per day. If you are happy with £100 a day then fair enough, if you want £500 a day then ask for it.
If they question your rates then be prepared to tell them that they are not simply paying for your time, but for the backup and security that using a professional jetwashing company brings to them.  The correct insurances, training, experience and service that only you can offer them.
If I were you, I would insist on using my own kit.  What happens if theirs breaks down or does not perform as well as your would.  Using your kit ensures that you know how to use it properly and that they get the job they are paying for in the timescales you have promised them.

The sooner we as a profession start to demand the recognition for our skills, the sooner we will all be able to command the fees we deserve.
Once this happens then the immigrant workers will not stand a chance as they will be 'too cheap' and the customers will become suspicious of them.

Just my opinions and of course in the end it is up to you.

Kind regards

Andy

[Shaun_Ashmore]

bdcs get yourself a high vis jacket and loads of cones and red and white tape, and secure the area and do a test piece, the site manager won't be bothered about the wash more of the 'health and safety implications', have a risk assessment done and add your insurance to it, then go in with the price.

Sell the sizzle not the stake.

Shaun

[BDCS]

The original thread was what to charge to go on site and operate their kit and thats what I would charge - if you get £300 a day then good luck to you but a brick layer gets about £180/day so I doubt that a site agent will see any parity in going to your rates. Well back to the origial thread - What did you manage to negeotiate ?

[Andy Foster]

what is the normal daily charge for one man pressure washing on a site.

they have the eqiupment but no one trained to use it,

would £300 per day be about right!!

thanks

Unless I have misunderstood what is written, the original thread actually asked whether or not £300 a day would be about right and I think that differing opinions have been made on that original question.
Just because you feel that you cannot charge that amount does not mean it is not right to ask for it, or that it is too much or little to ask.

[drive surgeon]

a brick layer does not use petrol or need all the specialist equipment a pressure washer does, 

[steve_doyle]

firstly several problems arise from the way the work is offered,

1. Day rate
2. using other people equipment

I try not to offer any of these unless a long term guarente of work would be in the equation, I would quote per job.

Personally speaking I think this all boils down to the Area, the Company/forman involved, length of contract and the ability to risk losing the work through submitting a higher price.

In my area I would not get entertained at £300 per day unless I had a team of 2 on site, working solo as was the OP I would expect to quote similar to BDCS if it was for a couple of weeks or more.

yes I can earn more by the job but the idea of the day rate is that it is a guarenteed amount of days work making a slight drop in price acceptable. If they want a day rate for a couple of days work then i wouldent give it.

Bottom line is, get what you can, but dont lose it if you need it.

[Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)]

If a client (domestic or commercial) wishes to employ me for a day, then my day rate is the minimum is expect to earn that day.

There are companies out there that think that if your day rate is £ 150 ( just as an example), then they can give you 5 days work x £ 150 per day = £ 750

As we all should know, thats not how it should work.

If I am asked to fit carpet or clean carpet and my rate is £ 3.00 per m2 (just as an example), then providing it is no more than 50m2 I would charge the day rate.

Anything over and above that I charge the m2 rate - otherwise you are just working for wages and not running a business.

[Gerry Styles]

Day rate on my uderstanding is what is charged for individual days. How many companies are going to use you every day?. If they do then you are not a contractor but an employee.

[Roger Oakley]

Totally agree with Andys first reply.
This is how I deal with it.
If it it domestic, then it is a sq mt rate, as we all know that domestics can take longer then a commerical job for it's size.  Domestics are hard to charge by the day, bad drainage, low water presssure etc, so time lost.

The only time I'll give a day rate is it is commerical or industrial, (market dictates this) £450.00 per day and this at times is a low price.
For that price you'll get me, machine, any chemicals needed, and a set amount of sq mts to be cleaned. Now saying that if the said area (square meters) is, say a day & a half of my time you will still be charged 2 days, end of it. I am charging  what it is worth to me to clean said area, and these will be mostly one off cleans.

I would also say stop feeling guitly for what we/you charge you are offering a professional service, with professional kit not just an add-on with some B&Q or eBay cheapie bought kit.
The sooner people realise that there are professional companies out there the better.

[Blue Sky 2]

Professional