[kris martin]

we went wfp over six weeks ago (freedom trolley) wfp tops trad bottoms, we got the trolley because an employee was leaving and have a huge work load... in some, no most instances wfp is quicker but i think once all the windows on the round are prepared for wfp cleaning and we dont have to explain to every customer it will be significanly faster... at the moment we are making more money in the same days than when we had somebody working for us and the day is also a lot more chilled out... imagine i flew around wfp like i did stupidly with a ladder... anyway bottom line is its much better psychologicaly going to work knowing your not climbing a ladder all day..   I ENJOY WORK AGAIN

You have got me so excited saying that 

are you doing the change or you taking the mick out of me

Going over to the dark side in september 

you will get a few moaners, i left quite a few messes the first couple of weeks and did have a couple of doubts but i love going to work, when i get back from my hols im gonna get a van and convert top and bottoms... its ace, i seem to be learning a different technique every day to perfect the job..   there is nowt dark about it..

[NWH]

Sorry again that`s 2 days on the trott,let me correct myself and say that end of oct early november is a very good time as the days are very short,90% of my customers were out most of the time so when i switched they didn`t even know.The short days cover up marks on the first few cleans and the next few months give you a head start on getting the windows up to scratch for those sunny days.

[kris martin]

i hear what your saying nwh i thought i was the only one who left a few marks on the first cleans

[Dean Taberner]

Im both, mainly WFP now though.

Dean.

[kris martin]

i know summer shows up marks ten fold, i also hate collecting on roasting days incase you have left marks they look herendous.

[NWH]

i know summer shows up marks ten fold, i also hate collecting on roasting days incase you have left marks they look herendous.

That`s what i love about WFP when the windows are cleaned up even on sunny days 9 out of 10 there spotless,the same cannot be said for trad way.On a sunny day cleaning anyway trad you can leave bad bad marks and lines behind,regardless of how many times you clean them trad these mistakes and marks can appear every clean unlike WFP.IMO when you have your windows to a good standard WFP i find it a more reliable way of workin g on the whole.

[kris martin]

some sunny days trad its impossible, i have done 4th cleans now wfp there maybe is still 1 or 2 spots and i do mean 1 or 2 spots but each time i have been its just got better, am i right in thinking that say six months into cleaning it willl be near impossible to leave spots

[kris martin]

some sunny days trad its impossible, i have done 4th cleans now wfp there maybe is still 1 or 2 spots and i do mean 1 or 2 spots but each time i have been its just got better, am i right in thinking that say six months into cleaning it willl be near impossible to leave spots

i done it today, cleaned on tuesday, collected tonight seen it and just turned round having a laugh and said (that dosnt look good does it" he said no and laughed

[sjm]

Well, Ive been WFP 4 months now. I could come on here and spout the figures I used to earn trad and the figures I earn now. However, its not all about figures, as Squeaks said he doesnt use half the energy he used to and is so much more fresher for work.

I love going to work now, its been so much more than a breath of fresh air for me, well, thats an understatement to be honest.

Figure-wise though, Id have to be institutionalised before I went back to ladder work voluntarily.

Matt

Even with a drought ?

[NWH]

Don`t forget your using the system day in day out you notice these little things here and there like the odd spot the customer dosen`t and that`s the reality of it.Beleive me the odd spot here and there is better than a load of lines from a squeeggee or marks from a grubby cloth,on the whole the customer knows it does a much better job if used correctly.

[sjm]

Don`t forget your using the system day in day out you notice these little things here and there like the odd spot the customer dosen`t and that`s the reality of it.Beleive me the odd spot here and there is better than a load of lines from a squeeggee or marks from a grubby cloth,on the whole the customer knows it does a much better job if used correctly.

I dont want to dissagree with you , but when I have cleaned the windows trad they are spotless , I check after every window !

[kris martin]

i do the same, i always have a second and third glance but i dont care what anybody says when the sun comes out directly on te window it can show up marks that were not there before..

[NWH]

Don`t forget your using the system day in day out you notice these little things here and there like the odd spot the customer dosen`t and that`s the reality of it.Beleive me the odd spot here and there is better than a load of lines from a squeeggee or marks from a grubby cloth,on the whole the customer knows it does a much better job if used correctly.

I dont want to dissagree with you , but when I have cleaned the windows trad they are spotless , I check after every window !

I do windows WFP and trad and don`t need to waste my time checking i`ve been doing the job to long,i instinctivley know it`s called experience.If the phones not ringing it means no ones moaning,my aim is to do as much as i can providing a good service and earning as much as possible,if your having to keep going round checking windows your doing something wrong and that`s not a dig at you it`s a fact.

[NWH]

i do the same, i always have a second and third glance but i dont care what anybody says when the sun comes out directly on te window it can show up marks that were not there before..

Spot on,the windows trad can look perfect and when you`ve gone and the suns moved oh dear.

[kris martin]

doing it trad the sun is my worst enemy..

[kris martin]

there is loads too look at, the amount of things i have seen 

[NWH]

doing it trad the sun is my worst enemy..

The sun sorts the goodn`s out from the badn`s.

[kris martin]

im extremely good at my job just takes a lot longer in the sun, 1 because you tire out faster and 2 no matter what and even the custys know it, it is harder to trad in the piping heat unless you get your water just right.... when i am trad i want let anybody else put the liquid in the bucket it has too be just right..

[sjm]

Don`t forget your using the system day in day out you notice these little things here and there like the odd spot the customer dosen`t and that`s the reality of it.Beleive me the odd spot here and there is better than a load of lines from a squeeggee or marks from a grubby cloth,on the whole the customer knows it does a much better job if used correctly.

I dont want to dissagree with you , but when I have cleaned the windows trad they are spotless , I check after every window !

I do windows WFP and trad and don`t need to waste my time checking i`ve been doing the job to long,i instinctivley know it`s called experience.If the phones not ringing it means no ones moaning,my aim is to do as much as i can providing a good service and earning as much as possible,if your having to keep going round checking windows your doing something wrong and that`s not a dig at you it`s a fact.

I meant after cleaning each window , before going back down the ladder 

[MissyShell]

BOTH WFP AND TRADITIONAL ARE RIGHT I FEEL A FEW CHEAP SHOTS ARE BEEN AIMED AT THE TRAD GUYS ON HERE.. AND THEY ARE PROBABLY THE ONES WHO HAVE HAD THE MOST EXPERIENCE OF RUNNING A SUCCESFULL BUSINESS!!

IF IT AINT BROKE DON,T FIX IT...


PS I CLEAN BOTH WFP AND TRAD

Hey thats my saying (lol)
wfp is definately better NO LADDERS for starters,its quicker I love it.
I still have about 10 trad bungalows and hate it,it sucks the life out of me and I find it incredibly boring.