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safecleanlakes

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nervous on ladders
« on: October 30, 2003, 12:01:37 pm »
does anybody solely use a pole (not water fed type) for cleaning domestic windows as against traditional ladder work. i am so often asked can i recommend a window cleaner as there is a real shortage in the area, and am considering setting up, but as you can guess i dont like being up ladders, hence the question, thanks for any advice

Peter Fogwill

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Re: nervous on ladders
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2003, 01:16:27 pm »
I cleaned all my windows with a pole and squeegee at one time, before moving on to water fed poles. It takes a lot of practice; I also had to make a couple of tools to make it possible.

I don't sell the tools now but to give you an idea of what I used, you can see one of the tools at  http://www.window-tools.com/other/ledgermate.htm


Peter Fogwill

Re: nervous on ladders
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2003, 08:17:18 pm »
Hi S.C.L
I too hate ladder work but do it as I have too for yrs now but A-frames are a ladder that you feel very safe on do you know anyone who has any or a shop near by where you can try out some.
Good luck
Alan

safecleanlakes

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Re: nervous on ladders
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2003, 09:13:52 pm »
Thanks for replies so far, it is much appreciated, problem i have is that majority of houses in this area are on very sloping ground, and of dormer type construction, plus a lot are 3 storey. Due to this being my 1st year trading as a carpet & upholstery business, i am reluctant to invest heavily in what would be an add on business, in spite of what i see as a very in demand service in this area.

andy

Re: nervous on ladders
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2003, 10:35:47 pm »
Hello safecleanlakes!

Im looking to expand my business at the moment, where do all these people want there windows cleaned?

any info appreciated!

ANDY.

safecleanlakes

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Re: nervous on ladders
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2003, 11:11:46 pm »
Andy, many thanks for all the helpful info, it just goes to confirm what happens when a person lands on their head from a height, i see how much useful input you must give to this site !!!!!

crystal

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[color=Blue][/color]Re: nervous on ladders
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2003, 11:19:00 pm »
this is my 2nd week of wc (only rained off once) i too was nervous on ladders but am getting to grips with it now, just waiting for the wind tho, i was asked to price a 3 storey house my ladders arent long enough so wwwould it be feasible to clean from position on ladder and make up distance with extension pole. i find with ole work i often leave lines any suggestions ???on uneven ground i use the laddermate which i thought hope this helps ;)might be a gimmick but it does make you feel safe  ;) ;)

Peter Fogwill

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Re: [color=Blue][/color]nervous on ladders
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2003, 11:55:55 pm »
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i was asked to price a 3 storey house my ladders arent long enough so wwwould it be feasible to clean from position on ladder and make up distance with extension pole. i find with ole work i often leave lines any suggestions ???on uneven ground i use the laddermate which i thought hope this helps ;)might be a gimmick but it does make you feel safe  ;) ;)


No you would be too close to the wall.

If you can use a pole it is much better to have a longer pole and work from the ground, that way you can see what your doing and move around much better.


Peter Fogwill

crystal

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Re: [color=Blue][/color]nervous on ladders
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2003, 12:23:47 am »
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No you would be too close to the wall.

If you can use a pole it is much better to have a longer pole and work from the ground, that way you can see what your doing and move around much better.


Peter Fogwill

  in that case would a stand off be of any use or would i still have problems with movement.  ??? thanks for the reply ;) ;)

Re: nervous on ladders
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2003, 12:40:42 am »
hI all
Have you seen these the ladder mat for ladder safety they are really good I have one.
http://www.diytools.co.uk/diy/Main/Product.asp?ProdID=4506
Cheers
Alan

Peter Fogwill

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Re: [color=Blue][/color]nervous on ladders
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2003, 12:43:12 am »
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  in that case would a stand off be of any use or would i still have problems with movement.  ??? thanks for the reply ;) ;)


Yes you would still have problems with movement, and you would still be too close to the wall.  It would be very uncomfortable, and dangerous.

It may work for an awkward window now and again if you were careful, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Peter Fogwill

crystal

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:)Re: nervous on ladders
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2003, 12:53:30 am »
ta peter,
guess ill just stick to my more competively priced 2 storeys or buy longer poles & practise like billyo
better a poor live wc tan a rich dead un ;) :)

Re: nervous on ladders
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2003, 01:07:18 am »
Hi crystal
I got my self a winspray and was cleaning the eves on a house Ladder was not long enough so climbed the ladder and worked a pole to reach.
It was really bloody dangerous and really stupid to try would not recommend
Cheers
Alan

crystal

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Re: nervous on ladders
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2003, 01:19:51 am »
hi al what is a winspray is it a machine  like a pressure washer can it wash windows & upvc soffitts etc i have been asked to price as an extra job any formula for a 3 bed detached house   ??? is this winspray expensive if so would a car brush on end of ext pole do job about how long would it take would imagine its a filthy job but someones got to do it any special clobber needed or just old threads
cheers in advance :D 8)

Re: nervous on ladders
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2003, 01:28:24 am »
Hi Crystal
here is the link for the wintecs site they do a load of winspray stuff
http://www.wintecs.co.uk/catalog/default.php?osCsid=3a606528d3d0e3578ffd2de3fbb17b6b&manufacturers_id=16&osCsid=3a606528d3d0e3578ffd2de3fbb17b6b
I have the gun, 100ft hose and reel, Liq chemical delivary system, brush it is done by tap pressure.
It has been ok but you do need the chemical attachment.
but if that dirty might be better just getting up there by ladder cant beat elbow grease, is good though give them a call loads of new stuff coming out
Cheers
Alan

Nathanael Jones

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Re: nervous on ladders
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2008, 10:23:31 pm »
Clean Dude,... you bored this evening????

jaykie

Re: nervous on ladders
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2008, 10:25:48 pm »
whats going on with all these old posts

Chris

peter holley

Re: nervous on ladders
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2008, 10:38:38 pm »
 :o ;D ;D ;Dbbaaahhhh

jeff1

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Re: nervous on ladders
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2008, 11:22:49 pm »
does anybody solely use a pole (not water fed type) for cleaning domestic windows as against traditional ladder work. i am so often asked can i recommend a window cleaner as there is a real shortage in the area, and am considering setting up, but as you can guess i dont like being up ladders, hence the question, thanks for any advice

Now I don't know whether you would be interested but I am at present in the throes of developing the "perfect ladder" which you are so diligently seeking.
Provisionally dubbed "The Alco-Reach" it' is an ingeniously designed tool to ensure that the professional shiner is happy and refreshed as he undertakes his daily travails
It's main feature is the 12 pints of lager which are stored in the hollow handrail and rungs which is fed to the thirsty operative by means of a small cunningly concealed pump and a length of tubing which emerges from the top of the handrail at roughly mouth level.
I have developed 2 different models. Firstly "The Lightweight" this is specifically aimed at the Geddy type of shiner who can't hold their grog to save their life. This model is filled with a weak gnats p lager of the Fosters ilk and features an optional Paracetemol dispenser.
Then there is "The Artist" a real mans ladder brimfull of Tennants Super and featuring a small concealed button which when pressed will allow a small lavatory bowl to pop out from one of the lower rungs so that the woozy shiner can quickly and safely relieve himself without the irksome necessity of stopping drinking. Clever or what?
A small radio is also incorporated in the design which will automatically play a selection of tried and trusted drinking anthems such as "Show me the way to go home" and My old man said follow the van"
A crafty failsafe mechanism is also installed whereupon small sensors in the rungs will detect whether the operative has had such a skinfull that safety is at risk due to unsteadiness or vomiting.
This little gadget will deploy a boxing glove on a spring which will knock the $hit-faced shiner from his perch whilst simultaneously deploying small air bag which will emerge from the bottom rung to ensure a comfy and pain free landing.
After 2 hours another robotic hand will deploy and hurl a glass of ice cold water into the face of the comatose workman before gently placing him back in his vehicle.
And now the coup de grace. The ladder will then place itself back on the roof rack and drive the blissfully contented diamond polisher back to his place of residence and tell his missus that he's exhausted after a long day and to let him rest
I hope this helps

PS I'm also working on a highly innovative and groundbreaking design for the more effeminate shiner "The LFP" or Lemonade Fed Pole.

Re: nervous on ladders
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2008, 12:24:58 am »
does anybody solely use a pole (not water fed type) for cleaning domestic windows as against traditional ladder work. i am so often asked can i recommend a window cleaner as there is a real shortage in the area, and am considering setting up, but as you can guess i dont like being up ladders, hence the question, thanks for any advice

Now I don't know whether you would be interested but I am at present in the throes of developing the "perfect ladder" which you are so diligently seeking.
Provisionally dubbed "The Alco-Reach" it' is an ingeniously designed tool to ensure that the professional shiner is happy and refreshed as he undertakes his daily travails
It's main feature is the 12 pints of lager which are stored in the hollow handrail and rungs which is fed to the thirsty operative by means of a small cunningly concealed pump and a length of tubing which emerges from the top of the handrail at roughly mouth level.
I have developed 2 different models. Firstly "The Lightweight" this is specifically aimed at the Geddy type of shiner who can't hold their grog to save their life. This model is filled with a weak gnats p lager of the Fosters ilk and features an optional Paracetemol dispenser.
Then there is "The Artist" a real mans ladder brimfull of Tennants Super and featuring a small concealed button which when pressed will allow a small lavatory bowl to pop out from one of the lower rungs so that the woozy shiner can quickly and safely relieve himself without the irksome necessity of stopping drinking. Clever or what?
A small radio is also incorporated in the design which will automatically play a selection of tried and trusted drinking anthems such as "Show me the way to go home" and My old man said follow the van"
A crafty failsafe mechanism is also installed whereupon small sensors in the rungs will detect whether the operative has had such a skinfull that safety is at risk due to unsteadiness or vomiting.
This little gadget will deploy a boxing glove on a spring which will knock the $hit-faced shiner from his perch whilst simultaneously deploying small air bag which will emerge from the bottom rung to ensure a comfy and pain free landing.
After 2 hours another robotic hand will deploy and hurl a glass of ice cold water into the face of the comatose workman before gently placing him back in his vehicle.
And now the coup de grace. The ladder will then place itself back on the roof rack and drive the blissfully contented diamond polisher back to his place of residence and tell his missus that he's exhausted after a long day and to let him rest
I hope this helps

PS I'm also working on a highly innovative and groundbreaking design for the more effeminate shiner "The LFP" or Lemonade Fed Pole.

What happens to the shiners that can drink any ladder under the table ? or is this in the making via a van mount ?