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mr D

  • Posts: 913
water ban's
« on: April 28, 2008, 12:05:52 am »
what will happen to all the wfp firms when the goverment brings in there new energy saving legerstation?

how much h2o dose the advrage wfp w/c use? ALOT that alot to clean windows and alot wasted making pure water. the british goverment are well aware of this and it is only a matter of time b4 they indraduce new laws proventing inderviduals using such large amounts of water.

every property surpplyed with mains water is now fitted with a water meter 'by law' so there local water board can moneter the amount they use. one section of the hips that you need to have to sell a property is all about water conservation and they are recomending no one buys a property unless it is fitted with a water meter.

dose all this not bother you guys? you do bang on about how ladders are a problem and all that but summer 2006 most of the south of england had hose pipe ban's on the hse isshewed a statment encuraging w/c to get back to cleaning windows rather than spraying water at them. (well they didnt quite put it like that but they did say wfp w/c should get back to cleaning windows from ladders).

i dont know about you but the thought of going round to all my customas that i'd lied to to get and saying ''acturly, i'd lied and you can use ladders and now i have to because i'm not aloud to waste huge quantatys of water any more'' would make me sick to my stomach.

its just a matter of time guys, a matter of time!!

davids3511

  • Posts: 2506
Re: water ban's
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2008, 12:13:36 am »
I haven't lied to anybody to get my customers. I never once mentioned ladder bans or any other such cobblers. You seem to be tarring everyone with the same brush!

I use a DI vessel to make my pure water so there is no waste there. I can clean a house using about 15 liters, not what I would call 'huge quantatys of water'. Just brushing your teeth with the tap on uses about 5-6 litres.

Re: water ban's
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2008, 12:15:07 am »
what will happen to all the wfp firms when the goverment brings in there new energy saving legerstation?

how much h2o dose the advrage wfp w/c use? ALOT that alot to clean windows and alot wasted making pure water. the british goverment are well aware of this and it is only a matter of time b4 they indraduce new laws proventing inderviduals using such large amounts of water.

every property surpplyed with mains water is now fitted with a water meter 'by law' so there local water board can moneter the amount they use. one section of the hips that you need to have to sell a property is all about water conservation and they are recomending no one buys a property unless it is fitted with a water meter.

dose all this not bother you guys? you do bang on about how ladders are a problem and all that but summer 2006 most of the south of england had hose pipe ban's on the hse isshewed a statment encuraging w/c to get back to cleaning windows rather than spraying water at them. (well they didnt quite put it like that but they did say wfp w/c should get back to cleaning windows from ladders).

i dont know about you but the thought of going round to all my customas that i'd lied to to get and saying ''acturly, i'd lied and you can use ladders and now i have to because i'm not aloud to waste huge quantatys of water any more'' would make me sick to my stomach.

its just a matter of time guys, a matter of time!!
So are you thinking of going over to wfp ?

poleman

  • Posts: 2854
Re: water ban's
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2008, 12:18:48 am »
Hellooo

I really hope we dont get a silly post again

Informed debate is good

Now at the moment, in a hose pipe ban, you are fine, if we have a drought like 1976 then we might have problems

I am making sure that this does became a problem for my business as I am building a rain harvest and beating the ban

mr D

  • Posts: 913
Re: water ban's
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2008, 12:19:22 am »
15L per house!

i do and advrage of 25 houses a day trad that would be 375L per day. 1875L per week, 7500 a month and 90,000 per year. your right thats not alot ::)

mr D

  • Posts: 913
Re: water ban's
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2008, 12:22:36 am »
i am thinking of going wfp to be honest but not 100% i'm just looking in to it 1st and a rather relyably friend of my who works in the city informed me of this problem.

my dad has a well in his garden he bought the house espechely because of this. smart move if you ask me.

Re: water ban's
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2008, 12:26:22 am »
i am thinking of going wfp to be honest but not 100% i'm just looking in to it 1st and a rather relyably friend of my who works in the city informed me of this problem.

my dad has a well in his garden he bought the house espechely because of this. smart move if you ask me.
I guess so, you can always  have a borehole, if I am write a hose ban would include rain harvested water aswell as they would ban the use of hose's I could be wrong but swear I have heard this floating around.

I do know one thing is the water companies stopped people from working they would have quite a few law suits on thier hands and telling people to go back on ladders is plainly putting them in danger (not everyone that is WFP knows how to use ladders let alone clean trad.

Ian

Peter Fogwill

  • Posts: 1415
Re: water ban's
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2008, 12:27:49 am »
Here is an article that may interest some people.
www.hallofarticles.com/Article/Water-shortage-in-the-UK/1601

Peter

[GQC] Tim

  • Posts: 4536
Re: water ban's
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2008, 12:30:32 am »
If they would actually fix all the leaks in the pipes literally everywhere, then we wouldn't have water shortages.

mr D

  • Posts: 913
Re: water ban's
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2008, 12:39:49 am »
I guess so, you can always  have a borehole, if I am write a hose ban would include rain harvested water aswell as they would ban the use of hose's I could be wrong but swear I have heard this floating around.

I do know one thing is the water companies stopped people from working they would have quite a few law suits on thier hands and telling people to go back on ladders is plainly putting them in danger (not everyone that is WFP knows how to use ladders let alone clean trad.

Ian

your rite there but as we all know polatitions like vote winning policys and the 'green' isshew is def one of those. i think they would combat the safty isshew whith ladder training. the problem with w/c is alot of them started out all on there own and have never been properly trained. my dad tought me and i'm very very good with ladders any height. 

mr D

  • Posts: 913
Re: water ban's
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2008, 12:40:41 am »
If they would actually fix all the leaks in the pipes literally everywhere, then we wouldn't have water shortages.

dont be silly thats never gonna happen far too exspencive!

Re: water ban's
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2008, 06:55:20 am »
I guess so, you can always  have a borehole, if I am write a hose ban would include rain harvested water aswell as they would ban the use of hose's I could be wrong but swear I have heard this floating around.

I do know one thing is the water companies stopped people from working they would have quite a few law suits on thier hands and telling people to go back on ladders is plainly putting them in danger (not everyone that is WFP knows how to use ladders let alone clean trad.

Ian

your rite there but as we all know polatitions like vote winning policys and the 'green' isshew is def one of those. i think they would combat the safty isshew whith ladder training. the problem with w/c is alot of them started out all on there own and have never been properly trained. my dad tought me and i'm very very good with ladders any height. 
I was fine on ladders myself till had a car crash, how ever much training you have ladders are a risk. I think a little water is better to use than risking your health.

Ian
p.s I am not anti trad by the way, I did it for years

peter holley

Re: water ban's
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2008, 07:07:04 am »
if i had to i would wfp tops....and squeegy downstairs......but i will NEVER go back to ladders :(

Nathanael Jones

  • Posts: 5596
Re: water ban's
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2008, 07:35:45 am »
Hose pipe bans would have no effect on harvested rainwater,... something I have researched!

Rainwater harvesting is the way forward, and is quick and easy to setup. It may even save you money as you could end up using less resin!

I think the average WFP'er uses approx 1200 - 1500 litres a week (some more, some less). Just collecting rain off your house roof could supply the majority of this water.

Mr H

  • Posts: 615
Re: water ban's
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2008, 07:55:04 am »
Hose pipe bans stop the use of hosepipes connected to MAINS SUPPLIES ONLY. If you have a static tank that is filled from the mains via a "hose" then you would not be permitted to fill it but if it was "plumbed" in then they couldn't. When you go out to clean windows with wfp the hose is NOT connected to the mains so therefore they can't stop you.

Regards
Mr H


paul mather

  • Posts: 528
Re: water ban's
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2008, 08:54:47 am »
I don't see how in one breath the HSE can "encourage" us to find safer working practices & then ban us from using them, thereby forcing us back onto ladders. That's hardly a joined up policy is it?

Anyway unless you haven't noticed it's not stopped raining in Britain since last July so there's definitely no problem in the short term.
Use the wand of power !!


Warrington, Cheshire

Sanity

  • Posts: 426
Re: water ban's
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2008, 09:26:35 am »
Each house is cleaned with the equivelent of a toilet flush...

So are the government gonna come round and fine me if I have the squits and have to flush more often, thereby using more water?

Just harvest and filter rainwater.  What can they do then?  Nothing :D

paulscotney

Re: water ban's
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2008, 09:28:20 am »
Hosepipe bans only affect a certain part of the country. South Staffs water, where I live, hasn't had a ban since 1976, which was an absolutely exceptional year.

jaykie

Re: water ban's
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2008, 04:04:40 pm »
My area has a ban near enough every year, swtatic tank migh be a option, can someone eplain how this is built and works

Chris

jeff1

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Re: water ban's
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2008, 04:31:16 pm »
i am thinking of going wfp to be honest but not 100% i'm just looking in to it 1st and a rather relyably friend of my who works in the city informed me of this problem.

my dad has a well in his garden he bought the house espechely because of this. smart move if you ask me.

I hope you realise Mr D That dad will need a well extraction license? even if he owns the well and its on his own property.
Any water in the water table belongs to the water company, the have you by the goolies every time.