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Having read several posts on here where people won't get out of bed for X amount and tell everyone they earn Y per year may i point out that last year i was a printer who served a seven year apprentiship, worked treble shifts and earnt £15.00 an hour. There is no other factory job that comes near this figure in my area. I honestly don't think people on here have a grasp on reality sometimes. Some jobs in my local paper are less than a third of what some expect on here. It reminds me of the old "loads ' money" from the '80's only it's cleaners now doing the bragging instead of the plasterers.
Bish Bosh!

[Dean Aspects]

£15per hr i wouldnt have got out of bed in the 80's for that 

Dean

[matt]

bish bosh

ive got loooooaaaaaadddddddssssss of money

so much i didnt have to work all week 

[p1w1]

I think at the end of the day it doesn't matter what everone else earns or what hours they work it's what you earn and hours you work. I used to work in injection moulding untill i dedcided to go as a self employed window cleaner the job paid well but at the end of the day i still wasn't my own boss for me it's all about the lifestyle it brings i like to think i earn good money from window cleaning certainly more then my previous job but i also know that i can take time off whenever i want and work what ever hours i want and i dont have to ring any boss up trying to think of some excuse why i wont be in to work for that day and that suits me down to the ground.

Paul

[williamx]

The figures that a lot of people state, is not their net pay, but it is their working rate per hour.

For example most cleaners should be working at the rate of £30 to £50 per hour.

But out of this figure they have to take out their working costs, which can reduce this figure by 50%.

So their Gross Profit is £15 to £25 per hour, on this, they now have to pay income tax and national insurance on, so their net pay is more in-line with what other workers, in other industries earn.

[Mike 108]

I'll be honest with you.

Knowing several self-employed (one man band) window cleaners in the area where I live I don't think I'd be far out if I said the average charge/income was £15 per hour doing small/medium domestic properties.

You can get more if you do the bigger houses or work in the more 'well-off' areas.

That's being honest!

Off out now.  Ta-rah

Mike

[cvdewsbury]

For example most cleaners should be working at the rate of £30 to £50 per hour.

one man band w/c, give over willy lad are the pavements made of gold were thee lives?

[Wayne Thomas]

If I ever get down, I visit the job centre to get back in touch with reality pay for normal folk. Always works for me.
One other thing to consider is that the same job but in different locations around the Uk can vary considerably, unfair if you live in a poor area, but so is life.

[matt]

For example most cleaners should be working at the rate of £30 to £50 per hour.

one man band w/c, give over willy lad are the pavements made of gold were thee lives?

i spotted that aswell, he forget the extra 0 in the 30 and 50

[jonah]

I think it all has to do with how confident you are as a person .  You  know in your mind what you are worth either working in a warehouse or working for yourself !    A lot of people just put up with poor wages cos they dont believe they can get any better .    

[NWH]

Overall most of us are in the same boat. If your pay is less than £41,435.00
per year.Whether you are employed or self employed although it is a lot
better to be the captain of a small boat than a officer on a ship.

Untill you start to move ahead, Considerably with a lot more money there is
not much difference at all.

Ewan  

Quiet right if you want to move forward ie employing you need to earn 150% more than the amount you stated at least,earning this much more will bring you into VAT and a top paying tax bracket which will eat into your earnings.So if you want to end up with your 41k after paying wages vat and tax your going to need to be earning 3 x that amount,so you have to ask yourself whether it`s worth it shall you settle for your 41k on your own or employ turnover 3x that but still end up with your 41k,difficult decision hmm.

[Village Gleam]

Sorry to be dim, but whats the significance of 41?

[williamx]

For example most cleaners should be working at the rate of £30 to £50 per hour.

one man band w/c, give over willy lad are the pavements made of gold were thee lives?

i spotted that aswell, he forget the extra 0 in the 30 and 50

For example most cleaners should be working at the rate of £30 to £50 per hour.

one man band w/c, give over willy lad are the pavements made of gold were thee lives?

i spotted that aswell, he forget the extra 0 in the 30 and 50

I don't know what you charge, but I charge £10 minimum, I can clean 3 houses per hour, this includes driving between each job. = £30 per hour.

If the houses are next to each other and the access is easy then 5 houses per hour is possible. = £50 per hour.

I also clean a nursing home, it tates me 2 hours 20 mins and I charge £175 which equals £75 per hour, another is a pub, I charge £55 it take 30 mins. = £109.99 per hour.

All of my jobs are priced accordingly, none of my customers are rich, in fact most live on council estates or houses that cost £125k to £160k.

In every area I work, their are also other cleaners who are working (most of them are cheaper than me), so its not down to me being the only cleaner available, it simply down to me offering a first class service that they are willing and happy to pay for.

As for the pavements being made of gold, well the only thing thats shines in my area, are my customers windows.

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What's the definition of a first class service?

[dai]

Some of you guys make me so envious of your earnings, I used the last of my super glue this morning to stick the sole of my shoe back on.
If Matt lived nearer he could have done a bit of cobbling for me.

CHARGE THEM £50 AN HOUR BECAUSE YOUR WORTH IT.

I think I have learned the secret at last, don't look for the biggest houses, just find the thickest customers.

Dai

[Mike 108]

I also clean a nursing home, it tates me 2 hours 20 mins and I charge £175 which equals £75 per hour, another is a pub, I charge £55 it take 30 mins. = £109.99 per hour.

All of my jobs are priced accordingly, none of my customers are rich, in fact most live on council estates or houses that cost £125k to £160k.

The pavements may not be made of gold but whoever is responsible for paying you the above rates needs sacking!  

You may well give a first class service, but the above rates are ridiculous and extortionate (unless you are managing to clean the parts that no other cleaner is willing, or able, to do).

It sounds like a 'rip-off' to me, but if they are daft enough to pay it !!

Still, it's better than ripping off some old lady, I suppose.

Sorry if my reply offends - but I live in a totally different world.

Mike

[NWH]

Some of you guys make me so envious of your earnings, I used the last of my super glue this morning to stick the sole of my shoe back on.
If Matt lived nearer he could have done a bit of cobbling for me.

CHARGE THEM £50 AN HOUR BECAUSE YOUR WORTH IT.

I think I have learned the secret at last, don't look for the biggest houses, just find the thickest customers.

Dai

Where there`s a dozen houses surrounded by fields there`s money,that`s where you need to go.

[matt]

For example most cleaners should be working at the rate of £30 to £50 per hour.

one man band w/c, give over willy lad are the pavements made of gold were thee lives?

i spotted that aswell, he forget the extra 0 in the 30 and 50

For example most cleaners should be working at the rate of £30 to £50 per hour.

one man band w/c, give over willy lad are the pavements made of gold were thee lives?

i spotted that aswell, he forget the extra 0 in the 30 and 50

I don't know what you charge, but I charge £10 minimum, I can clean 3 houses per hour, this includes driving between each job. = £30 per hour.

If the houses are next to each other and the access is easy then 5 houses per hour is possible. = £50 per hour.

I also clean a nursing home, it tates me 2 hours 20 mins and I charge £175 which equals £75 per hour, another is a pub, I charge £55 it take 30 mins. = £109.99 per hour.

All of my jobs are priced accordingly, none of my customers are rich, in fact most live on council estates or houses that cost £125k to £160k.

In every area I work, their are also other cleaners who are working (most of them are cheaper than me), so its not down to me being the only cleaner available, it simply down to me offering a first class service that they are willing and happy to pay for.

As for the pavements being made of gold, well the only thing thats shines in my area, are my customers windows.

im not sure the point of that post

you earn 30 quid a hour, take your days off out of that, take your tax out of that, fuel for van etc etc
its not 30 quid is it

as for the nursing home and pub, im not sure if that was to impress, as it doesnt i, i have accounts that will earn me alot more than that, but thats not the point, you mention £109.99 per hour for 2 jobs, thats just 2 jobs, if all your work was that, then well done, but its not

no offence, but you did make the post, and my next point isnt aimed at you

we have people on here who mention that earn 250 for 1 hours work on a commercail clean, well done, but its not 8 hours per day is it, lets keep things real

[Paul Coleman]

Some of you guys make me so envious of your earnings, I used the last of my super glue this morning to stick the sole of my shoe back on.
If Matt lived nearer he could have done a bit of cobbling for me.

CHARGE THEM £50 AN HOUR BECAUSE YOUR WORTH IT.

I think I have learned the secret at last, don't look for the biggest houses, just find the thickest customers.

Dai

Sounds like a load of cobblers   

[matt]

Some of you guys make me so envious of your earnings, I used the last of my super glue this morning to stick the sole of my shoe back on.
If Matt lived nearer he could have done a bit of cobbling for me.

CHARGE THEM £50 AN HOUR BECAUSE YOUR WORTH IT.

I think I have learned the secret at last, don't look for the biggest houses, just find the thickest customers.

Dai

Dai, im afraid i will not mend shoes for anything less than 25 quid a pair, i have a new min charge, its the future