[mattsimm]

just wondered how many of you guys use dry fusion/bonnet cleaning method? are you happy with the results and what products do you find best, microsplitters/catalyst etc.?

[Deep Clean Newcastle Gateshead]

its a good system for commercial, but dont like using it in domestic situations, easier with the tm, however its always good to give the client a choice of dry in 30 mins or 3-6hrs.

[*paul_moss]

Same answer as above. Ok for commercial as it can make a carpet look clean but it is only visual and not as good as hwe, same goes for dry granules. However it does have its place especially on low profile commercial which is a nightmare with hwe but you can get a result with dry fusion.

[Neil Williams]

Same answers as above but I do use it on domestics where there is enough space and clearly just a maint' clean is needed.
I use a mix/match of M/S and Prochem products along with the cotton pads. Charlie pads well what a waste of money unless you really want to whizz over an overwise clean low profile carpet.

[Straker Cleaning]

Neil ......... other way round for me ....... never thought of bonnet clean as that effective but use the Charly pads with great effect .
Job mentioned in Cleaning Matters is such a job, where Charly does the job more effectively than previous person using TM and now they have saved 25% on cleaning costs ........... i am £2.5k down there but the word of that saving is getting me plenty of commercial work now 

[Neil Williams]

Chris where exactly are you because we must get together and you can show me how these things work in practice. At a previous CCDO I think I was proven right about their cleaning ability after a demo when a terry towel was vibrated over the same area and came up nearly black. Then there's too much conflicting information on how they should be used. hot water / cold water / warm water /well wrung out / a little wet / so wet they drip water when held up !

[mattsimm]

thanks for your replys guys, very informative. i know of a local company that have ditched their ninjas in favour of purely using bonnet cleaning. they seem to have a very satisfied client base. i know that on a recent job that i did(bonnet) , whilst doing a bit of spotting afterwards my clean white towel was coming up black when i wiped near walkways into the room. it gets quite a lot of traffic from people with shoes on. would any black still show after using HWE?

[Neil Williams]

. would any black still show after using HWE?

If done properly then no.
Prespray, agitate, hwe extraction is always going to get the best results but we (by that I mean carpet cleaners) use a system that the customer is happy with the results of.

[Len Gribble]

Matt

Never mind me being happy with the clean; very satisfied client base is the key to profit.  At this moment in time using pure clean on all work.

Len

[ian loughlin]

I have been looking at rotary systems, and from what i can see they are the way forward.

Take a look at the cmx 20 extraction demo video on Google or you tube.

Also look at Xerion Solutions Dramatic Cleaning Demo with OMO on you tube.

The main thing is the amount of LESS effort it takes with rotary as compared with hwe, if your still getting great results................. then why not use rotaries???

[Straker Cleaning]

Neil ............ i know as well as anyone the HWE is more thorough and deep rinsing but that cannot be used to full effect on bitumen backed carpet tiles .............. surface cleaning low moisture method is needed and Charly does that 

I have used Charly pads and improved on areas cleaned with TM .......... any second pass will improve to a degree, which ever way round you do it. Surely that is why many operators utilise bonnets after HWE to speed up drying times, this can also remove soiling and marks missied by first clean !!

Only other bonnet method i would employ would be Texatherm, seen demo before and loved the system .......... new layout is far more efficient looking as well.

[Mike Osbourne]

I'd love to at least try Super Charlys but apparently they are impossible to get at the moment.  : 

[Straker Cleaning]

Like rocking horse manure ............. lucky i have 2 sets which will last for a while yet  :

May have to import from Germany personally ........... Spencer had thoughts on that and getting together for larger order 

[Mike Osbourne]

I'd be interested, it may be the Solution.

Noticed a DRY FUSION on ebay with vac and other stuff if anyones interested.

[Ian Rochester]

We recently bought a Texatherm system and have used it a fair bit on commercial, it does a decent job, but not as good as HWE.  But it is a lot faster

[mark shannon]

I'd love to at least try Super Charlys but apparently they are impossible to get at the moment.  : 

Why are they no longer being sold by UK supplier ?

Charley's are the business on carpet tiles  

[*paul_moss]

Guys if your going to get some charley pads from Germany, then count me in for a set.

[Straker Cleaning]

Anglo - German relations not what they were  :

[*paul_moss]

Yer but Chris thats nothing to do with us mate, im sure Gunther will send stock over to us.

[mark shannon]

Count me in for a set as well mine are starting to look a little ragged