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groundhog

Re: Groundhog
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2008, 09:58:26 pm »
Hi Jay, glad to hear that you use a van mount, good choice!! ;D
When I said Tony was a scummer it was not meant with malice, I'm sure you are aware that people from Southampton are refered to as scummers by a certain rival football clubs fans, just as Southampton fans refer to Pompey supporters as skates, it was intended as a bit of friendly banter on my part, although Tony seems to have taken it a stage further, but I'm thick skinned and won't take offence.

By the way have you still got those jobs that I passed onto you a couple of years ago? I think they were in Witley if I remember rightly. :)

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Re: Groundhog
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2008, 11:37:39 pm »
hi groundhog, i'm aware of the debate between soton & pompey but not beeing a footie fan i don;t get involved,

an interesting point here, it's said the the word SCUMMER derives from the old days (30's-40's?) or maybe even earlier when there was a dockers stike, the story goes on to say that the pompey dockers would not come out on strike to support thier fellow dockers in soton and were known and aptly named as the scummers.

 it is also said that over the years pompey folk couldn't handle the tag of scummers so reversed it by labelling the soton lot with the same name, soton people being like they are just renamed pompey as skates (due to the royal navy) and pompey girls were known as SKATE-BAIT

perhaps a little bit of research on this matter might be enlightning?

by the way as for whitley, not to my recolection as i don't do any there?
mind you if you have any in my direction i will always take them on

cheers m8
JAY "GRAFTERS"
From Southampton
www.high-shine.co.uk

groundhog

Re: Groundhog
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2008, 08:29:09 am »
Hi Jay, sorry I meant Durley not Witley, I gave you 3 or 4 jobs, Durley Mews I think it was called, I just wondered if you still did them?

As for the origins of the scummer/skate thing, I think that you have got that the wrong way around, the Soton Dockers were working when the Pompey Dockers were striking not the other way round! ;)

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Re: Groundhog
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2008, 02:09:50 pm »
Hi Jay, sorry I meant Durley not Witley, I gave you 3 or 4 jobs, Durley Mews I think it was called, I just wondered if you still did them?

As for the origins of the scummer/skate thing, I think that you have got that the wrong way around, the Soton Dockers were working when the Pompey Dockers were striking not the other way round! ;)
hi m8,
durley mews, ofcourse, nice job that i do them all now.
thanx for that

now then as for the strikers
if you live in pomey then soton crossed the picket line
and
if you live in soton then pompey crossed the picket line

personally i don't give a monkies as it was well before my time (just)

i don't suppose we will ever know the true origin ;)
JAY "GRAFTERS"
From Southampton
www.high-shine.co.uk

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Re: Groundhog
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2008, 02:41:11 pm »
Found this on pompey web.......


Origins of the term "Scummer"

An interesting story came the posse's way a few weeks back about the true origin of the term scummer or scum. Apparently, just before the first world war, a dispute broke out between a local fishing company and it's employees. We don't know the name of the company, but we do know that it had two branches, one in Portsmouth and the other in S***hampton. The dispute, over wages, escalated and eventually the union called a strike, which was solid among both the Portsmouth company union men and the S***hampton company union men. Nothing was resolved, and after some weeks the S***hampton company men broke the strike and went back to work, thus ensuring the collapse of the dispute without any gain for the employee's of either company. Not suprisingly, the Portsmouth company were incensed at the actions of thier fellow workers, and apparently one wag noticed that the first letters of the S***hampton Company Union Men spelt SCUM. Hence the name Scum or Scummer as a term of abuse for anyone from S***hampton was first coined. Taken form the hard copy of the April/May 1996 issue of Frattonise


and there you have it!


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Re: Groundhog
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2008, 04:10:05 pm »
You are obviosly not from Southampton then?
Clear Vision~"The Difference is Clear"

Southampton- Hampshire

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Re: Groundhog
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2008, 04:43:12 pm »
Found this on pompey web.......


Origins of the term "Scummer"

An interesting story came the posse's way a few weeks back about the true origin of the term scummer or scum. Apparently, just before the first world war, a dispute broke out between a local fishing company and it's employees. We don't know the name of the company, but we do know that it had two branches, one in Portsmouth and the other in S***hampton. The dispute, over wages, escalated and eventually the union called a strike, which was solid among both the Portsmouth company union men and the S***hampton company union men. Nothing was resolved, and after some weeks the S***hampton company men broke the strike and went back to work, thus ensuring the collapse of the dispute without any gain for the employee's of either company. Not suprisingly, the Portsmouth company were incensed at the actions of thier fellow workers, and apparently one wag noticed that the first letters of the S***hampton Company Union Men spelt SCUM. Hence the name Scum or Scummer as a term of abuse for anyone from S***hampton was first coined. Taken form the hard copy of the April/May 1996 issue of Frattonise


and there you have it!


as i sais it may need some research and it looks like you have done just that.
i would also like to point out that allthough i live in soton i cannot be named as  a scummer because i come from guernsey, channel islands (sometimes know as donkeys)  :D
JAY "GRAFTERS"
From Southampton
www.high-shine.co.uk

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Re: Groundhog
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2008, 06:34:36 pm »
Live Quite close to Jay....  (Born and bred)

Donkeys love it. Wanted to do the inpression heheh.

Regards Paul

groundhog

Re: Groundhog
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2008, 06:43:04 pm »

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hi m8,
durley mews, ofcourse, nice job that i do them all now.
thanx for that

Glad to here your still doing Durley Mews Jay, they seemed like nice people, it was just too far for me to travel!

As for the whole scummer/skate thing, its ok when used as a bit of banter, but some people take it far too seriously and it can all get a bit nasty! So from now on I will refrain from using the term :-X

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Re: Groundhog
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2008, 06:59:41 pm »
Live Quite close to Jay....  (Born and bred)

Donkeys love it. Wanted to do the inpression heheh.

Regards Paul
paul are you in sholing
"hee haw" ;D
JAY "GRAFTERS"
From Southampton
www.high-shine.co.uk

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Re: Groundhog
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2008, 07:15:10 pm »
groundhog I take no offense at the term scummer. never have done and never will do. It is mainly a football thing and neither are my team so it is not an issue for me.

What I did take offense at was your inability to appreciate other peoples working mwethods and that we are all different. We dont want to be like you so I would rather that you just accepted that other people like working diffeerent ways. period!
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Re: Groundhog
« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2008, 07:45:28 pm »
sure am partner hehe have to do it.. hee haw  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Regards

Paul

groundhog

Re: Groundhog
« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2008, 08:41:24 pm »


What I did take offense at was your inability to appreciate other peoples working mwethods and that we are all different. We dont want to be like you so I would rather that you just accepted that other people like working diffeerent ways. period!

Hey Tony no offence intended at all, and I appreciate that we all work differentley. What I was trying to do was give people the benefit of my experience, and as I have used a backpack, a trolley and a van mount, I am merely giving my opinion as to which is the best method, which in my opinion is easily the van mount! I find it difficult to comprehend how anyone can believe that a backpack is the best way of working! but hey each to his own I suppose ;)

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Re: Groundhog
« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2008, 07:51:58 am »
sure am partner hehe have to do it.. hee haw  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Regards

Paul

;D
JAY "GRAFTERS"
From Southampton
www.high-shine.co.uk

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Re: Groundhog
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2008, 10:22:43 pm »
hi all backpackers .could u tell me what is the highest u can reach with a backpack . i think its a shuflo . ps it is genuine ques ,  can it reach about 25 to 30 ft . thanks all 

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Re: Groundhog
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2008, 10:55:33 pm »
a mate of mine uses a 24 foot pole withis backpack .
where theres muck theres money

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Re: Groundhog
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2008, 09:38:55 am »
I have used my backpack with a superlite at 50ft. No problem at all.
Clear Vision~"The Difference is Clear"

Southampton- Hampshire

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Re: Groundhog
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2008, 09:35:57 pm »
thanks dave n tony . what would b a decent 35ft pole 2 use with backpack .medium price range