[markpowell]

on first job this morning sebo blew so had to go to second and third job vac free, both were minging.
Just pre-sprayed, agitated and rinsed an normal and the results were just the same as if id vacced.
The question is does pre-vac really make any difference. I would never have dreamed of cleaning this way, but i was left with no choice.
Does anyone honestly vac religiously on all jobs and please be honest?
Mark

[Jason Hedges]

Hi Mark,

I only pre vac when needed. I.e custy hasn't already (or has made a bad job of it), lots of dust, dry soil or bits on carpet. Most of the time custy has done it already so dont bother.

[Tony Gill Carpet Smart]

ALWAYS.

CHEERS TONY

[Neil Grainger]

I always do as well, Its is a requirement of NCCA membership that you pre vac all jobs. All the directors that I have ever spoken to say it should be done.

Some do, some dont but i prefer to as it is part of the package.

[COLIN BRIGHT]

always

[liahona]

Never, ever!

Best, Dave.

[elliott cleaning]

Like Dave, never.   But then I presume it depends on what kind of a machine you are using to clean the carpets with

[*paul_moss]

I used to always pre vac when i was aporty owner, now I use a truck I very rearly vac unless it really needs it.
Strange how times change.

[venom]

i use aporty but only pre vac if really needed

[gwrightson]

I would have thought a thorough pre vac was a routine part of the cleaning proccess, one of the first things i was taught was good pre vac was of great importance,
and again whilst taking the iicrc course , it is a fundemental part of the proccess as i am sure it is with the ncca,

so in a nutshell, both advocate pre vaccing, and if your not pre vaccing you are going against what you were taught

Im not saying its wrong not to pre vac, I am just doing the best i can.

thats what I was taught , so thats what I do. and if somebody can give me a good logical reason not to vac, I will listen with interest

geoff

[Neil Grainger]

Same with me Geoff,

[liahona]

How long do you have?  There are plenty of reasons why not to vac just as there are plenty of reasons why too vac.

Come to the ccdo and I will go through the whys and why nots.

Or of course you could just read the many many posts already on this subject.

Best, Dave.

[Neil Grainger]

Dave

I was waiting for your view on this, looking forward to seeing you in action at the CCDO.

Neil

[*paul_moss]

I aggitate with an envirodri on most jobs. The amount of muck/ hair and base crap it pulls out even after a full pre vac is amazing. For that reason I no longer pre vac unless there is a lot of dust or hair around the edges.
After I have aggitated with the enviro dri I will vac the excess of the surface with he truck hose before HWE.

[*paul_moss]

Dave

I was waiting for your view on this, looking forward to seeing you in action at the CCDO.

Neil

Ive seen Dave in action , no great shakes  , but hes good at cleaning rugs though 

[Jason Hedges]

I was taught to drive with my hands at 9 and 3 o'clock on the steering wheel.

That changed when I was driving home with my pass certificate in my back pocket .

Just because its the 'correct' thing to do doesn't mean its necessary .

[carpet guy]

Good analogy Jason and I'm a former driving instructor.

rob

[maxcarpets]

Time is money! If its not needed dont do it! if it is do!


Justin

[Tony Gill Carpet Smart]

I JUST KNEW there was SOMETHING about you ROB

CHEERS TONY

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys

Depends on too many things to list but being a professional you make judgements.

Pre Vac, yes or no,how much, what type , prespray yes or no , which one etc etc.

What temp, wet or dry, green or high pH .

As you become more experienced , black and white turn to grey ...........

Cheers

Doug