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dustee

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check list
« on: December 06, 2007, 07:44:24 pm »
doe's anyone have a check list ( house clean ) i can copy
cant find any on the site  (  knowing me looking in the wrong place )

 ie  what to do in each room so client can tick off whats wanted

  thanks        dustee

    j7mny@fsmail.net

CLEAN-MASTER

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Re: check list
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2007, 08:44:09 pm »
I'm looking for the same thing, please email me at robinowensmith@btinternet.com

Thanks in advance, Robin.

garyj

Re: check list
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2007, 09:04:18 pm »
Are these posts a wind up or are they genuine?

Do people really start a 'business' and expect to come on to a forum and get all the answers, even to something as stupid as this.

Take some responsibility and make your own list, surely it ain't that hard. You are both going nowhere fast. Absolutely ridiculous.

DREAM CLEAN

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Re: check list
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2007, 09:37:30 pm »
helpfull as ever Gary you just can not help it can you?

Clean master/Dustee 

click on the search up on the top of the page and have a look there failing that work with your customer and ask them to develop a list with you.

Nick

Re: check list
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2007, 10:01:17 pm »
It was a very straight forward and sarcastic reply but he makes the point. How hard would it be to make a list of the jobs that you are prepared to do in a room?

garyj

Re: check list
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2007, 10:02:22 pm »
More helpful than you are giving credit for actually Nick.

They might just get off their bums and actually learn something for themselves instead of just expecting answers on here.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you think it shows laziness, stupidity and naivety.

Running a business is tough with many on the hoof problems to deal with every day, if they can't write a list they should pack up now and go back to being the cleaners they are.

No effort to search the site, no effort to search Google, just no effort whatsoever at all. People like this give the industry a bad name, on the plus side no wonder it's so easy to get work with this calibre of 'competition' about.

Wasn't being sarcastic, just genuinely gobsmacked at what people expect. Something for nothing all the time.

garyj

Re: check list
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2007, 10:11:18 pm »
And anyone who thinks that is harsh just isn't cut out to run there own business. What till the clients realise you haven't a clue, then where will you be.

They are hiring you as an expert in your field, someone they can trust, someone who knows what they are expected to do. What message are you giving your customers when you do quotes. Do you take notes, do you listen, do you get the work???

Think you have many questions to ask yourself before you ask anymore on here.

And I really think this message is useful to you, but doubt you have the sense to take it for what it really means.

dustdees

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Re: check list
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2007, 07:21:02 am »
Hi,

I have to say that I agree with the comments from Gary J. If they are not prepared to think for themselves or even not sure what to put down, then that's a really bad start to setting up a cleaning company.

As we all know setting up in business is tough, you have to think for yourself, that when people can come up with something different for a change.

It's an insult to the ones that have drawn blood sweat and tears to set up!!!!!

If you can't sort that out then you should stand back at re think!!!!!

 :o ???

Mrs Nicholls

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Re: check list
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2007, 09:20:47 am »
hi,

I know i ask daft questions all the time, but the fundemental things such as what cleaning jobs will i do in someones house, really has to be thought about before you plunge in.

You should have had this all down on your business plan, what your service offers etc. You need to make some decisions and remember to be flexible as not every customers will want the same thing in regards to cleaning tasks or even how you clean certain things.

Walk around your own house, and write down what you would need to do there in each room, and divide the page, regular every week tasks, and tasks for more of a 3 month / spring clean type job, Woodwork and windows dont need fully cleaning every week, for example.

Good Luck
Lisa

J. Deans

Re: check list
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2007, 10:46:12 am »
I'm kinda sitting on the fence on this one.

It is possible that Dustee is a very busy person. They may know the job inside out and are fantastic cleaners. Then, they may never have had the need for a checklist before and simply heard about one elsewhere in the forum.
There is no harm in asking.

But I agree it is a lazy way to go about it. No details of the type of property, or cleaning requirements were supplied. Not only do they want the list handed to them on a plate, they also want the giver to figure it all out as well.

These forums should be all about giving good advice and guidance, but you must go some way to helping yourself first.

So, a bit more thought and effort put into a question and I'm sure you will get all the help you need. Unfortunately, I have never needed to use a checklist, as 'new-build' cleaning is simply comprehensive cleaning, so I can't help on this occasion.

Re: check list
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2007, 11:04:05 am »
To be honest i dont see the point of a checklist for domestic cleaning either, but there we are.

*Chris Browne

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Re: check list
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2007, 11:30:05 am »
I think its kinda sad that there are some people that have suddenly become holier than though, i can remember my self many years ago asking what now must seem the most stupid questions imaginable, .shame because this is what puts newbies from coming on in the first place to what could be the most valuable resource on the net....come on peeps.

Chris

Dustee, i have what you are after and i will email you a link.

J. Deans

Re: check list
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2007, 12:15:21 pm »
Well said Chris and well done for helping out.

DREAM CLEAN

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Re: check list
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2007, 06:10:41 pm »
well done Chris,

With high living costs it's important to keep the hoover/cloth moving to keep the pennies rolling in to keep a roof over their head with no time for paperwork setting up.
When I first started I asked as many people as I could for all sorts of things and most of them did help and when they have hit hard times I've helped them it's called "back scratching" it's what small businesses do and I wish the newbie all the best and I hope they are not put off by the people on this forum who feel the need to post silly remarks, maybe they might be a bit more constructive in their replys.

Nick

dustee

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Re: check list
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2007, 07:20:45 pm »
gary j
no i'm not stupid lazy or any other and yes i have thought about the obvious but i thought a little bit of help would'nt go amiss
looks like i was wrong
forgot that you was PERFECT
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

    dustee

Mrs Nicholls

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Re: check list
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2007, 08:46:14 pm »
hi dustee

dont let gary j upset you, its just a forum after all.

good luck with things, please feel free to email me if you would like a chat about things.

(gary likes to wind people up, believe me..i know)  ;D

garyj

Re: check list
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2007, 09:18:13 pm »
I've received plenty of help on here in the past and have helped others. I've sent many documents via email and have been happy to help a fellow small business owner.

Not holier than thou or perfect either, far far from it, but thanks for thinking that, I'll take it as a compliment  :P.

The reply that reckons there is just no time to do the office work is quite frankly ridiculous, bet you find time to watch tele, go out and sit on your computer.

I've 'known' Lisa since she was Lisa123, must be years now and have even spoken to her once or twice and maybe even offered advice ( probably pack it in  ;) ) but she soldiered on learnt and now is doing well.

I still find the original post an insult and do think it shows no aptitude and complete laziness. The same person has started  his/her own business because the franchise they worked for didn't appreciate them. Well now they are finding out what goes on behind the scenes of every company and they just can't hack it.

At what point should Simon Cowell tell someone they can't sing??? Best to get rid of the pretenders and the deluded from the start. Saves wasting their time believing they are going to be the next big thing, and saves the rest of us from having to put up with them.

Recent topics include, where do I get contracts, how much do I charge, can I have a lone worker policy etc etc. There is a search facility on here for heavens sake, and don't forget good old Google, not to mention the myriad of Government schemes to keep dingbats off the streets and off drugs  ::).

I will help, but first of all you have to help yourself. Welcome to planet Earth and the real world.


janeth

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Re: check list
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2007, 09:42:53 pm »
Well it looks like this site is just for the experts and not the newbies, of which i am one. I tooo have asked the question "how does one get contracts" and "how much does one charge for a job". And why would a person presume that we should go back to being the cleaners that we are? I have never done a cleaning job in my life. But i have a team that are exceptionally good at the cleaning side of things. I have put together for the first time a website, drafted up a contract, devised many different types of letter for differing businesses, set up a business account with the bank, designed a sign for the van, and made business cards. As well as this until i can get this business off the ground, i work a 14 hr night shift, yes i'm there now, i bring up an 8 year old grandchild and do all the other mundane things a wife and mother does. So please spare a little thought for us newbies when we ask for a little help, it just sort of takes the pressure off.
Thankyou for your precious time.
Janet

garyj

Re: check list
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2007, 10:29:36 pm »
Now I am confused Janet, so you've never cleaned, have a good team, designed a logo and everything else you've mentioned, but don't know how to get work. Come off it. As for being a grandmother, wife and bringing up a 9 year old, afraid I don't care and neither do your customers. What do you want a medal  :P

As this being a site for experts, no, many many fantastic and intelligent businessman and businesswomen have left or don't bother posting anymore because of the constant 'I want this and I want that' brigade.

I do appreciate your thanks though for my precious time, its given me an idea!! Do you think I should start charging for each post I write as I'm so great  :P  ;D

( anyone who actually knows me, please don't answer  :P :-X )


janeth

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Re: check list
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2007, 10:33:52 pm »
Don't be confused sweetheart, its a man thing ;D