[matt]

Hey Ricky if your not happy cleaning windows then try something else, your only 23 after all!! If I was you I would learn a decent trade while you are still young, something that you can always fall back on if you need it, something like plumbing, electrics, carpentry, bricklaying ect. You can always go back to window cleaning if it dosn't work out, or is there something that you really enjoy doing? a hobby maybe that you could turn into your living, because thats the only real way to be truly happy with your work, and that is to do something that you love to do!!
Very few of us could really say that cleaning windows is what we really love to do, many like me love the freedom and lifestyle that we get from window cleaning, but not actually the job itself.

You make it sound like we are second to a good job, when i fact this is a fantastic trade to be in, if you have the right mind set, any business owner needs to have this, I am a trained plumber and chef, do I do these ? the answer is no the reason why I earn more window cleaning, may not be the most glamerous of jobs but IMO is fantastic, yes some people later in life (and I aint knocking you) realise they work a 9 till 5 5 days a week get stress all the time then go into window cleaning. they are late starters are have seen others doing better than them without the hassle of someone telling you what to do.

Ian.

p.s a decent trade ?? Please dont insult us window cleaners

pps sry that annoyed me the post you wrote

i hate to break it to you, but window cleaning is not a trade

its a job, its a living, but its not a trade

[windowwashers]

Hey Ricky if your not happy cleaning windows then try something else, your only 23 after all!! If I was you I would learn a decent trade while you are still young, something that you can always fall back on if you need it, something like plumbing, electrics, carpentry, bricklaying ect. You can always go back to window cleaning if it dosn't work out, or is there something that you really enjoy doing? a hobby maybe that you could turn into your living, because thats the only real way to be truly happy with your work, and that is to do something that you love to do!!
Very few of us could really say that cleaning windows is what we really love to do, many like me love the freedom and lifestyle that we get from window cleaning, but not actually the job itself.

You make it sound like we are second to a good job, when i fact this is a fantastic trade to be in, if you have the right mind set, any business owner needs to have this, I am a trained plumber and chef, do I do these ? the answer is no the reason why I earn more window cleaning, may not be the most glamerous of jobs but IMO is fantastic, yes some people later in life (and I aint knocking you) realise they work a 9 till 5 5 days a week get stress all the time then go into window cleaning. they are late starters are have seen others doing better than them without the hassle of someone telling you what to do.

Ian.

p.s a decent trade ?? Please dont insult us window cleaners

pps sry that annoyed me the post you wrote

i hate to break it to you, but window cleaning is not a trade

its a job, its a living, but its not a trade

if you say so.......... There are alot of window cleaners in the UK, the thing that is different is there are professional window cleaners then there are the others, I am not here to argue with you but I think your totaly wrong. Window cleaning correctly is a skill, if i was wrong why do I pick up so much work ?

and before you go into one, please tell me know why plumbing is a trade, cooking is a trade yet window cleaning is not.....

[matt]

Hey Ricky if your not happy cleaning windows then try something else, your only 23 after all!! If I was you I would learn a decent trade while you are still young, something that you can always fall back on if you need it, something like plumbing, electrics, carpentry, bricklaying ect. You can always go back to window cleaning if it dosn't work out, or is there something that you really enjoy doing? a hobby maybe that you could turn into your living, because thats the only real way to be truly happy with your work, and that is to do something that you love to do!!
Very few of us could really say that cleaning windows is what we really love to do, many like me love the freedom and lifestyle that we get from window cleaning, but not actually the job itself.

You make it sound like we are second to a good job, when i fact this is a fantastic trade to be in, if you have the right mind set, any business owner needs to have this, I am a trained plumber and chef, do I do these ? the answer is no the reason why I earn more window cleaning, may not be the most glamerous of jobs but IMO is fantastic, yes some people later in life (and I aint knocking you) realise they work a 9 till 5 5 days a week get stress all the time then go into window cleaning. they are late starters are have seen others doing better than them without the hassle of someone telling you what to do.

Ian.

p.s a decent trade ?? Please dont insult us window cleaners

pps sry that annoyed me the post you wrote

i hate to break it to you, but window cleaning is not a trade

its a job, its a living, but its not a trade

if you say so.......... There are alot of window cleaners in the UK, the thing that is different is there are professional window cleaners then there are the others, I am not here to argue with you but I think your totaly wrong. Window cleaning correctly is a skill, if i was wrong why do I pick up so much work ?

no offical training

any1 can get a bucket and cloth and clean a window ( thus a window cleaner )

it takes less than a week to learn how to sqeegee to a acceptable standard

being a professional window cleaner does not make it a trade

im not having a dig at window cleaning / cleaners, but its not a trade

[Mo]

See you in Egypt Richy 

[matt]

and before you go into one, please tell me know why plumbing is a trade, cooking is a trade yet window cleaning is not.....

a official training body ( and dont point me towards ionics )

[windowwashers]

and before you go into one, please tell me know why plumbing is a trade, cooking is a trade yet window cleaning is not.....

a official training body ( and dont point me towards ionics )

I wasnt going to at all.

[matt]

Window cleaning correctly is a skill, if i was wrong why do I pick up so much work ?

just because its got skill to it and you pick up work, doesnt make it a trade

im sure i could find some1 from east europe who charges 5 quid a house and picks up loads of work

[windowwashers]

Window cleaning correctly is a skill, if i was wrong why do I pick up so much work ?

just because its got skill to it and you pick up work, doesnt make it a trade

im sure i could find some1 from east europe who charges 5 quid a house and picks up loads of work

ok answer me this, you need to find some in a trade that cleans windows what would you call them ?

we could always have the posh name: Vision enhancement technician
as this is what we do.

[windowwashers]

No answer to that  

[Stevie G]

come on ian stop trying to make this out to be something it's not. IT'S NOT A TRADE
anyone can do it within reason. i can understand you being protective.
a plumber now that's a trade. if i was a trained plumer i know what id rather do.

but that's your choice and not my business.

[matt]

ok answer me this, you need to find some in a trade that cleans windows what would you call them ?

i will edit the post a little, to read as it should, no mention of trade

ok answer me this, you need to find someone that cleans windows what would you call them ?

Hmmmmmmmmm a window cleaner

[matt]

No answer to that  

i had gone to feed the baby for a while, sorry about that  :

[matt]

i mentioned 1 week to be able to sqeegee to a fairly decent standard, i only mentioned 1 week as thats what i feel it took me

Saying that, loads dont even do that anymore, they just use WFP

and i hate to say it, i let my 4 yr old clean downstairs with my lightweight setup, i showed her on the french doors and she said i can do that  she did the whole of the conservatry and did a good job,

is she a tradesperson ?? ??

[Davew]

I would have thought a trade was a job where you had to serve an apprenticeship.

[windowwashers]

come on ian stop trying to make this out to be something it's not. IT'S NOT A TRADE
anyone can do it within reason. i can understand you being protective.
a plumber now that's a trade. if i was a trained plumer i know what id rather do.

but that's your choice and not my business.

Thats true, I had a choice and that was window cleaning, so may think I am mad, but I don't I like this trade.

[windowwashers]

i mentioned 1 week to be able to sqeegee to a fairly decent standard, i only mentioned 1 week as thats what i feel it took me

Saying that, loads dont even do that anymore, they just use WFP

and i hate to say it, i let my 4 yr old clean downstairs with my lightweight setup, i showed her on the french doors and she said i can do that  she did the whole of the conservatry and did a good job,

is she a tradesperson ?? ??

She could well be, and good on her bless 

[Richy L]

See you in Egypt Richy 

Your going too eh? Where to?

[Richy L]

Hey Ricky if your not happy cleaning windows then try something else, your only 23 after all!! If I was you I would learn a decent trade while you are still young, something that you can always fall back on if you need it, something like plumbing, electrics, carpentry, bricklaying ect. You can always go back to window cleaning if it dosn't work out, or is there something that you really enjoy doing? a hobby maybe that you could turn into your living, because thats the only real way to be truly happy with your work, and that is to do something that you love to do!!
Very few of us could really say that cleaning windows is what we really love to do, many like me love the freedom and lifestyle that we get from window cleaning, but not actually the job itself.

I know im only 23, but i'm married and have a mortgage, so starting a new job from basic pay isnt really an option. But i do like being the boss ... i guess im spoilt really, i went straight from school into window cleaning, so apart from weekend jobs when i was in school, i never really had to work for anyone else.

[neil100]

I have a Trade which I left nearly 30 years ago.

I trained for three years on leaving school at colledge on day release and I have my City and Guilds and a Master Bakers Certificate on top of that.

It was a great job. I loved it. I had Four offers when I was leaving the trade to run Bakerys.

That job had its draw backs, Long hours, Early mornings, And very poorly paid. But you got a lot of job satisfaction.

Would I ever go back? Not on your Nelly.

I know which side my bread is buttered on. I will use my loaf and stay w/cleaning.

To earn the money you can at w/c without the stress or the responsibilty that other jobs entail is in my opinion without equal.

I just had a new Boiler fitted last month and talking to the plumbers who installed it I enquired what the going rate is for plumbers in this area. I was chuckling inside knowing I earn a lot more per hour. There job is not glamoures, quite the oppossite when you see them crawling under the floor boards getting all dirty. Not for me thanks.

Trade or No Trade w/cleaning Rules in my book. Freedom, Choice of lifestyle. After nearly 30 years of w/c it has been very good to me and my family.

My lads have tried it but it was not for them. The youngest did it for a year and a half. But hes far happier working in a Bank. My other son does a bit of w/cleaning now and again when hes resting between acting jobs.

Nel.

Nel

[TDW]

Whats more boring?....cleaning windows or sitting in front of a PC clicking a stupid mouse all day long...

we're driving around, different places talking to different people and earnings loads of dosh. Great job as long as it is WFP of course