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Alex Wingrove

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Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2007, 07:25:03 am »
stop being pansy's

Count Phil

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Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2007, 08:38:34 am »
Funny thing is, I got wfp to go quicker, not so I didn't have to do this!

But now I wouldn't do it.

Helen

Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2007, 08:48:32 am »
yes, we've all been there and it makes you wonder how many customers didn't really want us standing on their tiles, but just had to put up with it! When we take on new that have hard to reach windows and we explain that it's no problem with the pole and we won't be standing on your roof, the majority are so relieved as most have had bad experiences with previous wc's that have done so :)

Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2007, 08:51:05 am »
stop being pansy's
he with the broken (what was it?)


yes, we've all been there and it makes you wonder how many customers didn't really want us standing on their tiles, but just had to put up with it! When we take on new that have hard to reach windows and we explain that it's no problem with the pole and we won't be standing on your roof, the majority are so relieved as most have had bad experiences with previous wc's that have done so :)
If a customer ever asked me to go on a roof I would have said no as it is dangerous, I have said in the past, they are welcome for me to foot the ladder while they do it when they say no I ask why and the normal reply back it is dangerous.

Alex Wingrove

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Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2007, 08:54:41 am »
rugby!

sometimes i think some of you could pass for heath and safety officers

Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2007, 08:57:58 am »
rugby!

sometimes i think some of you could pass for heath and safety officers
Only wish I was, I would close so many business' down for there own safety and send them on training courses, one slip of the tile and down you tummble, people that have done it will know what i mean when i say your heart skips a beat.

Alex Wingrove

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Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2007, 09:00:36 am »
h&s dont care about your safety you kidding your self if you think that's why they have a job

H&S only have jobs because of a word called "insurance"

Paul Coleman

Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2007, 10:12:07 am »
rugby!

sometimes i think some of you could pass for heath and safety officers

Well Alex.  Over the years I've had several near misses that could have broken a bone or killed me.  None of them were on a rugby pitch either.   :)

Helen

Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2007, 11:08:48 am »
Quote from: Alex Wingrove
sometimes i think some of you could pass for heath and safety officers
[quote

Take that as a compliment everyone who that is aimed at as we should all be H & S Officers within our own business ;D ;D

Neil271052

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Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2007, 02:31:41 pm »
Actually if that WC' er got himself a long pole he could squeegee those windows from  his ladder or possibly the ground.

Although talking of H&S what is going to happen when all the water dropped by WFP on the ground starts freezing? :o
Cheers,
Neil

Davew

Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2007, 04:52:07 pm »
Can't you see he's fine he is attatched to two safety wires. Mind you the ladder coming out of the sunroof looks dodgy!

Paul Coleman

Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2007, 05:00:28 pm »
Actually if that WC' er got himself a long pole he could squeegee those windows from  his ladder or possibly the ground.

Although talking of H&S what is going to happen when all the water dropped by WFP on the ground starts freezing? :o

That's exactly what I used to do with such windows before I started with WFP.  Extend an Unger pole with applicator and squeegee on the end.

Dean Aspects

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Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2007, 05:14:52 pm »
Actually if that WC' er got himself a long pole he could squeegee those windows from  his ladder or possibly the ground.

Although talking of H&S what is going to happen when all the water dropped by WFP on the ground starts freezing? :o

That's exactly what I used to do with such windows before I started with WFP.  Extend an Unger pole with applicator and squeegee on the end.

I think thats how most of us did it but early on when i first started i would walk up roofs no problem but experience and age teaches you to do thing differently

Dean

Kev R

Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2007, 05:59:55 pm »
When I first started my boss made me take off my shoes when the tiles were wet for better grip, he would often take the ladder away and do another window on some houses too!!!

I was 15 years old, fresh out of school, and thankfully that was many many years ago. I do love my wfp nowadays!!!!

groundhog

Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2007, 07:19:05 pm »
I think you should all just mind your own business and leave the poor bloke alone!!, He is simply earning an honest living and doing no one any harm, and has very sensibly pushed up a couple of tiles so he has somewhere safe to stand. Anyhow we will all be back up our ladders once the hosepipe bans come into force!!

Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2007, 08:19:57 pm »
Anyhow we will all be back up our ladders once the hosepipe bans come into force!!
if I do so be it, never like that though, I value my life, seems other like to take risks like that,

the guy in the pic works this way, it is not way safe even if he lifted tiles, each to there own we all work in a different way, I think the pic is great on how not to clean windows safely.(and people wonder why window cleaners die  :-\

Neil271052

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Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2007, 08:40:30 am »
You will probably find more WC'ers die in accidents whilst driving their vehicles  but that doesn't stop them.  ;)
Cheers,
Neil

matt

Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2007, 10:53:11 am »
h&s dont care about your safety you kidding your self if you think that's why they have a job

H&S only have jobs because of a word called "insurance"

actually i passed the H&S exec course a few years back ;) i just didnt fancy the time sat behind a desk and the time dealing with idiots

Ian_Giles

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Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2007, 11:43:09 am »
It isn't safe, the ladder should not be just propped against the guttering, health and safety no no...but then, we all did that didn't we?
I did for years on end, and far worse too, took all kinds of risks, more than you could shake a stick at in fact.

But the plain and simple fact is that what he is doing constitutes dangerous work practice.
There are a whole host of reasons why working that way is high risk.
Steep roof.
Sandy surface, possibly mossy too.
Ladder unsecured, risking ladder slipping away on guttering as weight is transfered form ladder to roof and afterwards from roof to ladder.
Risk of damage to guttering.
And obviously risk of damaging tiles.

These are not risks to poo-poo, just because many of us worked in this fashion before it doesn't make it right.
I think I've had more heart stopping moments on roofs than on ladders.
I've also walked around the corner of a house to find my employee groaning on the floor after he'd fell off the roof! :o
I've had broken tiles, cracked gutters, all manner of things...

Guidelines put in place to try and stop us working in this manner are not over the top, they make sense.

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

Dean Aspects

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Re: Nutter on a roof pic
« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2007, 11:49:02 am »
It isn't safe, the ladder should not be just propped against the guttering, health and safety no no...but then, we all did that didn't we?
I did for years on end, and far worse too, took all kinds of risks, more than you could shake a stick at in fact.

But the plain and simple fact is that what he is doing constitutes dangerous work practice.
There are a whole host of reasons why working that way is high risk.
Steep roof.
Sandy surface, possibly mossy too.
Ladder unsecured, risking ladder slipping away on guttering as weight is transfered form ladder to roof and afterwards from roof to ladder.
Risk of damage to guttering.
And obviously risk of damaging tiles.

These are not risks to poo-poo, just because many of us worked in this fashion before it doesn't make it right.
I think I've had more heart stopping moments on roofs than on ladders.
I've also walked around the corner of a house to find my employee groaning on the floor after he'd fell off the roof! :o
I've had broken tiles, cracked gutters, all manner of things...

Guidelines put in place to try and stop us working in this manner are not over the top, they make sense.

Ian

Well put ive been there done that and i am glad i dont have to do it anymore
some of the things i have done in the past thinking about it send shudders up me
Heres to a safer future

Dean