[L.J.Thorpe]

basic unger 2x3 supplied by cleantech endcone converted with ally boss works great reaches all i need to reach but being six foot four probably helps dont find much groundfloor i cant reach with it even big old georgian sashes

[Wayne Thomas]

Tucker 3 x 2ft pole is ideal for confined spaces and reaches most ground floor work apart from high reach split level bungalows

[Alistair@AWC]

Alex,

When do you expect them to be on general sale? And what will be the ballpark cost.

Al

[L.J.Thorpe]

Alex                                                                                                                                                                       why would you want a ground floor pole longer than 2 to 3 ft surely any thing more defeats the object how can a 4ft pole be any use on resi work on modern(post 1984) estates where houses classed as detatched only have to be a metre apart

[macmac]

24ft facelift with angle neck & swivel, closed down will easily do all but the very tightest of bottom windows. i also have a 2x4ft extender for the odd tight situation.

tony

[L.J.Thorpe]

macmac how! please tell me i am still quite new to this but could not get by without short pole(3ft closed) even it still tite some times

[macmac]

macmac how! please tell me i am still quite new to this but could not get by without short pole(3ft closed) even it still tite some times

Closed down i would think the pole is about 6ft, it's the swivel & angle adaptor that allow you to work from the side as oppose to being stood in front of the window.

tony

[L.J.Thorpe]

i have heard about angle/swivel necks they are good tools yes? what is idea not want to seem thick but how do they work are they free moving or adjust and lock for each angle dont laugh i still learning

[macmac]

i have heard about angle/swivel necks they are good tools yes? what is idea not want to seem thick but how do they work are they free moving or adjust and lock for each angle dont laugh i still learning

The neck angle (up & down) is adjust & lock. the swivel (side to side) is free moving & moves as you twist the pole in situ.

tony

[L.J.Thorpe]

sorry 8 bottles of specled hen make it hard to press right buttons any way cheers will talk to my local suppliers for info also does it work on upstairs?

[macmac]

sorry 8 bottles of specled hen make it hard to press right buttons any way cheers will talk to my local suppliers for info also does it work on upstairs?

Yes, works in all situations, although for realy high work 40ft + i prefer just a rigid alloy goosneck without a swivel, for everything other than this it's tip top.

tony

[Alex Gardiner]

I also have a prototype pole in use that is about 5ft when closed and is light enough to use on all ground floor work (which I have been doing all week), but will also reach 30ft as well. It's telescopic, has clamps and only weighs 1400g (oh and its stiffer than an E2).

Wow sounds exciting, when will that be ready because that would mean we could stop carrying our Brodex pro long and xtels and just have two of them and the Super-lite 2!!!

Alex,

When do you expect them to be on general sale? And what will be the ballpark cost.

Al

January. They will not be cheap as they really are top quality poles. They will be built to last for years of use, our first prototype has almost zero wear after 6 months of constant use. They also will be completely unique due to certain features which I cannot discuss until the design protection is fully in place.

Alex                                                                                                                                                                       why would you want a ground floor pole longer than 2 to 3 ft surely any thing more defeats the object how can a 4ft pole be any use on resi work on modern(post 1984) estates where houses classed as detatched only have to be a metre apart

Believe it or not it is easier to clean ground floor windows with a 5ft pole than a 2-3ft pole. Once you have the technique sorted you end up cleaning a lot faster with less body movement and you also have much better leverage than with a short pole. I have got a 2x3ft pole with a Vikan brush on that was damaged (slightly) in transit to a client. When it was returned I thought that I might as well put it in my vehicle and use it, but I never do as it is far too short and ends up being too much like hard work. I do use it to clean my works vehicle though!

[Nathanael Jones]

I tried shorter poles,.. and ended up with wet feet!
The shortest I would go is 4' and I find it gets into even the awkward corners for me.

[Jeff Brimble]

Thanks for taking the time to reply, got a lot more than I expected.

As the topic shows an average one size fits all doesnt exist yet.We are individual problem solvers with different types of work.  But maybe DaveW summed it up with
 "I would want a telescopic that went down to between three and four feet and extended to over twelve and was stiff and light as a modular and never wore at the joins and never embedded fibreglass shards in my hands ...... oh and cost less than a hundred pounds "

When you buy your off the shelf pole/brush  you excitedly start using it and it grows on you, it becomes your pole/brush of preference. For you it becomes your favourite.(bit like a bike) Its not until you find later that there are alternatives and work with them, that you realise that maybe you spent a lot of money on the wrong item (lighter bike). { I have}

Theres probably no way of knowing how the stats break down in the poll but it seems that the average favourite pole is between 3 and four, feet. So is this for use on the average house of maybe 2.2 beds and built in close confines of 2.5ft alleways with prams, bins, bric-a-brac and dog poo.

I put the 8ft pole in as a joke but then realised that I tried to get by with an 8ft telescopic with a fixed head, yes you can use it but its not easy.
Its only when you have the ability to click the brush off the pole and fit it to shorter top sections that you realise how constraining it was fixed to a pole with a  through the pole hose, but maybe thats another topic.

Hope its made you all think and question the way you work and how to save time and make more profit. Demmand what you want from the manuf. dont take everything for granted and if your a manuf. look at the results.

 

[macmac]

Hope its made you all think and question the way you work and how to save time and make more profit. Demmand what you want from the manuf. dont take everything for granted and if your a manuf. look at the results.

I've thought, & i've questioned myself all day & still come to the same conclusion-
There's no way a modular pole is quicker on domestic, a telescopic pole that does both tops & bottoms with ease & a brush that will do everything so no need to change it is still the quickest & best way.

Whip pole out of van -        3 seconds
Extend -                              3 seconds
Clean -                                 ?
Retract pole for bottoms -   3 seconds
Put pole in van -                  3 seconds

Away, next job, no pole changes, no brush changes, no being ultra careful not to chip my delicate sections, no hassle.

tony

[NWH]

Spot on Tony,modular poles especially the new ones are only worth getting out if the job is going to take a desent length of time,if the job is going to take 30-40 mins your wasting your time with the modular.I`m starting to think modular only has it`s place in the commercial sector,don`t get me wrong on large domestic houses they can be used with less fatigue but by and large i think there a commercial pole.With my 24ft carbon like you say it`s out the van in a second and extended in a couple,from turning on the varistream getting pole out and cleaning a window your talking 15secs.

[macmac]

Spot on Tony,modular poles especially the new ones are only worth getting out if the job is going to take a desent length of time,if the job is going to take 30-40 mins your wasting your time with the modular.I`m starting to think modular only has it`s place in the commercial sector,don`t get me wrong on large domestic houses they can be used with less fatigue but by and large i think there a commercial pole.With my 24ft carbon like you say it`s out the van in a second and extended in a couple,from turning on the varistream getting pole out and cleaning a window your talking 15secs.

 

This new telescopic pole of Alex's sounds interesting, looking forward to finding out more. You'll have to buy one anyway, to add to your wfp museum- sorry, shed!
 

tony

[NWH]

I certainly will Tony,i`m selling my S2 tomorrow i couldn`t get on with it.I`m sticking with the maver.

[Jeff Brimble]

If you prefer lightness over the extra weight of a telescopic, then a modular could be for you what ever time it takes to put up. One instance is if you have an injury RSI, sprain, if your a lady,  etc.

Over reaching over a conservatory at a low angle is one situation that all pole users should take care.

[Ian_Giles]

I've used modular and telescopic, currently using modular for everything, and trust me on this, once you are used to it, even on small accounts, using a modular is quick and easy.
On low work in confined spaces I simply pop off the top section of the pole, its only about 15 inches long, not long enough for anything other than stuff you could do trad without even an extension pole at all.
I would quite like a telescopic pole that is light and rigid, and good for about 18ft though.

Ian