[Davew]

After taking tips on this forum i had a rather large (underpriced as usual   ) inside trad school clean today. It took a while to get going but for a newbie it wasn't too bad. I actually prefer it to wfp. You can see instantly your results no guessing no worrying and i found it quite theraputic. Still got a bit to do tomorrow.

[Sir Squeaky]

You've never done much squeegeeing before?

You've just become a window cleaner!

[mark dew]

You've never done much squeegeeing before?

You've just become a window cleaner!

lol....
yep it does get harder when you're doing it for 6+ hours a day everyday.
I would do it but wouldn't want to work trad again solely. The though of working all those little muscles again....
The only thing i really miss working trad was being up the top of the ladder and looking around me at all the beautiful countryside.

[Village Gleam]

Squeaks,
When I am unsure of a finish I squeegie off the droplets. Is it okay to do this. Will any bits I leave on show up? (such as a thin line of drawing the squeegie across).
Would I get away with just drawing my blade across the top or once i have started must I do the whole window.

Obviously I'm talking about after I have already wfp'd it. The reason I am asking you is that on this subject i respect your knowledge

[Sir Squeaky]

Thanks mate.

Yes, that will be fine.
No need to detail, as providing it's been properly poled, it's only pure water.

I do this on a lot of windows.
Mainly front rooms or kitchens when they're sat in there.

It just looks better and more professional.
Lets face it, it barely takes 10 seconds.

[Davew]

You've never done much squeegeeing before?

You've just become a window cleaner!

Nope came straight into the trade wfp. Got to squeeze another inside and out tomorrow afternoon (Sunday!) works gone absolutely mad all of a sudden - probably won't last.

[Art]

I asked a few months ago if it was possible to start WCing without having any experience of trad. There were a few people who said it could be done and that they had only ever used WFP.

Is this not the case? I'd be interested to have opinions on this.

Rog, you have done both. What's your opinion mate?

Arthur

[mark dew]

we all start off with no experience. Trad cleaning is easy to do. The skill comes in doing it properly and quickly enough to make a profit.
It's very hard work though if you are doing it all day everyday. But it does get you extremely fit.

[Art]

we all start off with no experience. Trad cleaning is easy to do. The skill comes in doing it properly and quickly enough to make a profit.
It's very hard work though if you are doing it all day everyday. But it does get extremely you fit.

Hi Mark,

Thanks for the reply mate.

Maybe the way i worded that wasn't very clear. What i meant was would it be possible to start off WCing without having done any trad. as in, straight off with WFP

Arthur

[mark dew]

yes. The same rules apply. Just that with wfp you cannot see the finish until the windows are dry. So whenever i take on a new job, i always return for payment and to check the finish and wipe off any marks with a damp cloth.
If there are runs or spots i will do this on each clean until there are no more marks. Once the windows have come up clean with wfp they will always come clean.
I was 3 months into wfp until i did this though and while it might extend the time taken, it does give me peace of mind.

[Sir Squeaky]

Maybe the way i worded that wasn't very clear. What i meant was would it be possible to start off WCing without having done any trad. as in, straight off with WFP

Arthur

Hi Art.
I would say no, not if you want to really excel at it.

There's always times when you need skills to do the job by hand.
I do a hell of a lot of squeegeeing still, and it often saves me a lot of time over getting the wfp system out.

Insides, shop fronts, small bungalows.
It's all important.

[Dean Aspects]

Traditional cleaning is an art to a certain degree and i enjoy doing it
It will always be needed for certain properties as wfp sometimes just is not possible
it would be possible to start w/cing with no trad skills but you will not be able to offer a full service

Dean

[pjulk]

I know of a couple of window cleaners who only use WFP and have never used a squeegie.

They give me a shout when they need a job doing traditional.
As i do both.

I still don't think you can beat traditional.


Paul

[Sir Squeaky]

It's the ultimate for presentation.

Wfp is quicker, more efficient, does frames, safer, etc...

But you can't beat a clean dry shiny window.

[macmac]

To be honest i still like to trad jobs & still do many this way, mainly bungalows & houses where wfp is not an option. I think people go over-board when they say how hard it is, lugging ladders about etc. like you dave, i find it a doddle.

tony

[LWC]

i still trad most days too, not letting 3 years of it go to waste, but i dont have a house or bugalow that i dont wfp

i do alot of insides and builders cleans. just got meself a porcipine...couldnt recommend it any more

[Pat Purcell]

Art, i would say you could start a round with no trad skills, but you would have to be fairly careful about the kind of work you took on as some are better done trad , your best bet would be to buy an existing round that is all done wfp and expand from there when you,ve learned a little

[Londoner]

I like to make sure that the "eyeball" windows eg the kitchen and patio doors are pristine so I always trad them to be able to check that its all OK before I leave. It keeps my hand in and it saves on water. Trad is definitely not dead but it is slower and thats why I'm WFP.

[Village Gleam]

Do you wfp them and then trad or just trad?

I go round with a microfibre and blade attacking anything that looks suspicous. I use a towel on the sills.

[Davew]

we all start off with no experience. Trad cleaning is easy to do. The skill comes in doing it properly and quickly enough to make a profit.
It's very hard work though if you are doing it all day everyday. But it does get extremely you fit.

Hi Mark,

Thanks for the reply mate.

Maybe the way i worded that wasn't very clear. What i meant was would it be possible to start off WCing without having done any trad. as in, straight off with WFP

Arthur

Of course you can I went straight into wfp and had never had to use a squeegie in anger untill yesterday. Been at it since feb and never yet had a property i couldn't do wfp Only use trad for insides because everything else is crap.