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Feen

  • Posts: 562
What expenses do you all claim?
« on: October 06, 2007, 06:06:01 pm »
There's the obvious stuff like fuel, equipment purchases etc etc, but what else to you claim? I consider these to be legit. Mobile phone. Stationary. All equipment. Fuel. A room in my house for office use. There may be more. What about paying my wife say £50 a week for bookwork? Ideas and opinions, folks?
Feen

Sir Squeaky

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Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2007, 06:44:48 pm »
Too right mate.
All of the above and whatever else you can think of.

They rip us off, get your revenge. >:(

Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2007, 07:03:46 pm »
I think the criteria(that they give) is fair and reasonable. If you put down something that sticks out expect to get looked at.

We have enought legitimate expenses without having to invent things.

The best advice is to try and run your business really well, forget about trying to fiddle.

Feen

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Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2007, 07:10:28 pm »
VG, I'm not trying to fiddle, although I may have given that impression. I'm just trying legitimately reduce may tax bill. I am asking if there are expenses I should claim, that I'm not.
Feen

Bertie Boo

Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2007, 07:21:27 pm »
Feen

You can do a lot worse than ask an accountant - mine charges a tiny sum when you consider all the work he does for me. Last years bookeeping, accounts, and tax return was all done for me for less than £200. He claims for all sorts of teeny little things that i would never have thought of. It is always said taht an accountant will save you far more in tax than it will cost you to employ one. This has proved correct in my case.

Do bear in mind that in you claim money for work your wife has done she will have to declare this too. Speaking to an accountant is the way to go IMO.

Stephen

Feen

  • Posts: 562
Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2007, 07:29:13 pm »
Thanks, Stephen
Feen

Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2007, 07:35:55 pm »
Sorry Feen,
Bookeeping is one of my interests, even though i don't know much about it. The best thing you can do is not rely on an accountant. But to do this you have to learn.

Bin the accountant, go on a course.

Feen

  • Posts: 562
Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2007, 07:45:39 pm »
VG, I'm interstested in why you say "bin the accountant". The previous poster, Stephen, clearly feels they are worth while.  I do have an accountant and will be speaking to him soon. He has clients from all walks of life. I am just interested in peoples' opinions specifically from a window cleaning point of view.
Feen

Art

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Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2007, 07:53:06 pm »
I'd agree with Stephen speak to an accountant.

Spend your time developing your business. WC is what you specialise in.

The same as accountants are specialists in saving you money and making sure you get all the benefits that your entitled to.

I think VG meant book keeping?

Bertie Boo

Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2007, 08:18:38 pm »
Well, i speak as i find.

Funnily enough the guy who reccomended my accountant to me is self-employed himself (he is a wardrobe fitter) but does all his own books and accounts. He was fitting wardrobes at a house i was cleaning when i first set up my business and we got chatting. He was telling me that he does all his own accounts as he has the expertise, the knowledge, and the time to do it. But even he said that i should find an accountant if it was that i was really as blind to accounts as i said i was.

With that he then told me about this accountant who he'd fitted wardrobes for and since then i've used this accountant to do all my paperwork (more or less). All i have to do is record in an exercise book how much money i have taken each week and also how much i have spent. Thats all i do with my 'book. When i take my book to him (usually once a year) i take all my bank statements, fone bills, tax return, and then 3 months later i get it all back with a bill for his services. A tax bill follows in due course but for the first  3 years of my accounts this has been -literally- minimal.

He said his job is to make sure i dont pay a penny more in tax than i should do. It is just like Art said, we are 'experts' in what we do and it is better to concentrate on what we do best IF we dont have the time and confidence and/or understanding to do other parts of our business. I am not a stupid or thick person but having this doen for me is the best £200 i spend in a year.

Although they are 'our' accounts, an accountant is the one who is chiefly in the poo if it all goes wrong (though of course you are still liable to pay the difference in a tax bill if the accountant makes an error AFAIK)./ I am not knocking those who go it alone with the old accounts, but its just not for me and i am not a beliver in speculation and assumption etc so i chose to pay someone who is (supposedly  ;) ) in the know.

All i can say is it works for me.

Stephen

Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2007, 08:26:22 pm »
Have you ever been outside a hairdressers when the lady comes out over the moon with how she looks? Then the next and the next, except that they all have exactly the same hairstyle, which in turn looks exactly like the stylists.

Put it another way, is it best to  accept a web template for your site or better to try to create your own?

Be your own financial director.

New Van next year? £1000 pole to service work you might not get?

Being on top of your books is the same to me as running a good business. Not all accountants understand our business.

Just read Stephens post. That is sensible. but the accountant is in no way liable, it's all down to you.

Bertie Boo

Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2007, 08:38:02 pm »
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Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2007, 08:44:46 pm »
There's the obvious stuff like fuel, equipment purchases etc etc, but what else to you claim? I consider these to be legit. Mobile phone. Stationary. All equipment. Fuel. A room in my house for office use. There may be more. What about paying my wife say £50 a week for bookwork? Ideas and opinions, folks?
got an accountant to do it for you, cost is minimal and saves a whole lot of hassle, I enjoy paying my accountant once a year give them a box full of stuff they do everything give back the box and a bill and is all sorted, an accountant should save you money, I got nearly £3000 back from mistakes made by a so called person that new what to do.

Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2007, 08:47:50 pm »
 

Although they are 'our' accounts, an accountant is the one who is chiefly in the poo if it all goes wrong

All i can say is it works for me.

Stephen
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does that help.

Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2007, 08:49:14 pm »
Who was he WW?

Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2007, 08:55:35 pm »
Who was he WW?
a family freind, I never said anything to them as they tried to do me a favour.

Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2007, 09:14:44 pm »
My books(retailing) have always had to do with mainly invoices as the cost of goods sold, so this business where the cost of goods sold is hardly anything came as a shock.

All our costs are either indirect or to do with depreciation.

Accountants do make mistakes. If the ir find a mistake in one they go through all his accounts (i mean customers).

As I see it the main problem is accounting for the cash that we recieve.

As more people file online the lower echolons are being made redundant. This frees up more time and resourses for enquiries and investigations.

Bertie Boo

Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2007, 09:27:06 pm »


Although they are 'our' accounts, an accountant is the one who is chiefly in the poo if it all goes wrong

All i can say is it works for me.

Stephen
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does that help.

Not really. N'mind.

Stephen

Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2007, 09:36:31 pm »
The hairdressing analogy was trying to say that some accountants force templates on us whether they fit our business or not.

Re: What expenses do you all claim?
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2007, 10:07:00 pm »
The hairdressing analogy was trying to say that some accountants force templates on us whether they fit our business or not.
if you are emplying an accountant to work for you, you should be the one that tells them what you want if they cant do it find another.