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Daveyboy

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Sea-grass water mark!
« on: October 04, 2007, 01:52:31 pm »
SEAGRASS CARPET
I am going to 'dry' clean this so-called carpet.
But there is a water ring next to the bathroom, is it removable? (The size of a rugby ball)
If so what would you recommend?
Thanks.

murky

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Re: Sea-grass water mark!
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2007, 02:14:51 pm »
No.

Seagrass doesnt like water. (Thats why you are dry cleaning it .)

There is a clue there.

Murky

lands

Re: Sea-grass water mark!
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2007, 03:14:48 pm »
bonnet it. it's the only way (and it won't remove the water mark)

premier floorcare

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Re: Sea-grass water mark!
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2007, 04:30:16 pm »
seagrass in a bathroom ? lol

lands

Re: Sea-grass water mark!
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2007, 04:53:26 pm »
Davey

Just remembered that a guy who used to work at Prochem (who knew his stuff) did tell me that you can treat small areas of seagrass as usual. Not tried it myself so perhaps you could try a a low moisture prespray like Gold and extract with an upholstery tool. Would get custy to agree first though. Why don't you post on clean talk and you'll get the Bolton's (or at least one of's) advice.

Pete

prodry

Re: Sea-grass water mark!
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2007, 05:14:45 pm »
I clean a seagrass carpet in a large country house, its in three large rooms and in their guest cottage.

She is an old custy and was going to remove it before I cleaned it. Prespray very lightly with Mpower then extract with Truckmount with pressure at 100psi and vac running at half power. With boiler on full power, close to live steam.

Never had a problem with it and have done now twice. Usually close to dry by the time I finish rest of house.

Tried to clean a water mark in on of the rooms with upholstery tool 100psi and no heat and just made it worse. The bit that had been wet before was round a pot plant. When I tried to clean the water just disappeared into the stained/previoulsy wet area.

Most of what i get up is just dust and lint between the strands that her cleaner doesnt remove with their 30year old hoover.

Love the smell of sea grass when its cleaned, smells a bit like that ozone smell you get at the seaside.



Doug Holloway

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Re: Sea-grass water mark!
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2007, 07:41:19 am »
Hi Guys

Itis very unlilkey that you are going to remove a water mark on sea grass, all the ones I have seen are colour changes, generally bleaching.

As for HWE small areas I have done this without shrinkage but be careful and check the general fitting standard first.

It is always best to prequalify this type of carpet and if the custy's expectations are unrealistic then don't do it.

Cheers

Doug

Daveyboy

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Re: Sea-grass water mark!
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2007, 07:58:00 am »
Thanks for your replies.
Great advice as usual.
Keep the GOOD advice flowing.
Davey.

woodman

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Re: Sea-grass water mark!
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2007, 09:03:34 am »
Both sisal and seagrass carpets are hygroscopic. That is, they absorb moisture and give off moisture, depending on the relative humidity in their immediate environment. Although humidity is good for natural fiber carpets, saturation of the fibers with water can cause undesirable dimensional change.  Therefore, steam-cleaning, wet shampooing, or any other method that involves water saturation is NOT recommended! For overall cleaning, spray-extraction method is recommended, using minimum moisture setting on the machine. Here the cleaning liquid is applied by pressure and removed by vacuuming in the same working cycle. Application should be continuous, keeping the application moving to prevent excess moisture in any spot. Note that complete moisture extraction is not possible. The moisture penetrates the fibers and the coarse structure causes the absorption of air. No water marks are visible with this method due to the even application of moisture. If the carpet has been glued down, it should be determined that the adhesive is not water soluble before applying moisture.

It should be noted that when moisture is applied to Seagrass it can revert to its natural colouring this may be whats happened in your case, the water stain may well be the natural colour.

If so and in a restoration mode, it might be possible to 'even' up the colouring by applying moisture as outlined above to blend the colour in over the entire piece of carpet, this must be qualified with the client first.  ;)

Obey the golden rule when it comes to natural floor coverings; if in doubt, Dont Touch !

lands

Re: Sea-grass water mark!
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2007, 09:07:47 am »
Blimey, for a man who deals in fish fingers you sure know your carpets.

I had a woman beg me to try something on a red wine stain on a sisal rug. Told her it would'nt work but she insisted so I tried a neutral spotter and the stain went green immediately.

Pete

murky

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Re: Sea-grass water mark!
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2007, 09:53:21 am »
There is a restaurant near me with acres of the b...dy stuff. Of course they spilt red wine on it asked me to try and get it out of course told them what might happen but they insisted.

Used red wine remover (and rinsed it out) it took all the colour out of it. It looked worse than before, should have left the wine in it.

Murky

stevegunn

Re: Sea-grass water mark! New
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2007, 11:23:16 am »
Hotel in Darlington I did had sea grass fitted in restaurant, before it opened someone spilled red wine all over I had cleaned lounge/bar carpet but walked away when asked to do the seagrass and I had the host freestyle dry cleaning system but customer expected it to be like brand new again