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Jaybee

  • Posts: 49
Leaking CFR Relief Valve
« on: September 04, 2007, 08:24:44 pm »
My newly aquired CFR 500 Perfect-Heat has sprung a leak after a couple of hours of use after I bought it (second-hand.) Water is dribbling from the end of the numpty of the pressure adjustment valve at the rate of around about 100ml a minute.

Does this mean I need a new valve?

John Kelly

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Re: Leaking CFR Relief Valve
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2007, 08:41:17 pm »
Not fully conversant with this valve. However it may just need a clean or new o ring. If it unscrews, unscrew it making note of which way the spring etc fits in. Give it a good clean and check any o rings.

Jaybee

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Re: Leaking CFR Relief Valve
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2007, 08:46:08 pm »
Thanks for your reply. I have unscrewed it and there is a spring, and then a cap which fits over a plunger. There is no o-ring or seal in that part of the valve.

Chris R

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Re: Leaking CFR Relief Valve
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2007, 08:47:18 pm »
Give the suppliers a ring, they are very helpful and will advise you on the parts that you need.

http://www.amtechuk.biz/contact.php
Staffordshire

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Re: Leaking CFR Relief Valve
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2007, 07:22:46 pm »
mr j/b, be careful when using the 500, not to take it over 500psi it damages the pump/rings etc! i now that if you have purchased one from amtech & have taken it over 500psi, it invalidates the guarantee, do you have some sort of warrantee? amtech also service the machines, were they will pick up & drop off your machine, provide a full service for about £250- plus vat. freshi 

lands

Re: Leaking CFR Relief Valve
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2007, 07:43:11 pm »
mr j/b, be careful when using the 500, not to take it over 500psi it damages the pump/rings etc! i now that if you have purchased one from amtech & have taken it over 500psi, it invalidates the guarantee, do you have some sort of warrantee? amtech also service the machines, were they will pick up & drop off your machine, provide a full service for about £250- plus vat. freshi 

You could'nt Fu%^ing resist could ya

lands

Re: Leaking CFR Relief Valve
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2007, 07:44:48 pm »
mr j/b, be careful when using the 500, not to take it over 500psi it damages the pump/rings etc! i now that if you have purchased one from amtech & have taken it over 500psi, it invalidates the guarantee, do you have some sort of warrantee? amtech also service the machines, were they will pick up & drop off your machine, provide a full service for about £250- plus vat. freshi 

You could'nt Fu%^ing resist could ya

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Re: Leaking CFR Relief Valve
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2007, 07:57:13 pm »
pete, why aint you fast asleep, tucked up in your bed, you know you've got to get up early! i tried to resist, but i gave in. freshi

Jaybee

  • Posts: 49
Re: Leaking CFR Relief Valve
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2007, 12:04:51 am »
mr j/b, be careful when using the 500, not to take it over 500psi it damages the pump/rings etc! i now that if you have purchased one from amtech & have taken it over 500psi, it invalidates the guarantee, do you have some sort of warrantee? amtech also service the machines, were they will pick up & drop off your machine, provide a full service for about £250- plus vat. freshi 

Who on earth would design a hydraulic circuit that was capable of over-pressurising a component??? The first thing you put on a circuit after the pump is a relief valve set to blow off when the pressure reaches the limits of the pump - this is the first rule of hydraulic circuits! Are you seriously suggesting that these cowboys designed a circuit where the operator can damage the pump??? That's insane.

Joe H

Re: Leaking CFR Relief Valve
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2007, 10:21:33 am »
Must admit no one has told me that before.

Sometimes I think these stories go around without much foundation.

Whether that is the case or not here I dont know.

but why do you need to go beyond 500 anyway - does a good job at that pressure AND LESS.

Fresh Clean

Re: Leaking CFR Relief Valve
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2007, 03:21:52 pm »
i've come to the conclusion, that this jaybee bod is a complete prat!!!!!

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Re: Leaking CFR Relief Valve
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2007, 03:44:31 pm »
& that is why it is called a pro 500 & not a 600, plonker.

Jaybee

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Re: Leaking CFR Relief Valve
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2007, 07:42:48 pm »
i've come to the conclusion, that this jaybee bod is a complete prat!!!!!

Are you going to answer my question?

Do CFR build machines that have no relief valve protecting the pump?

Chris R

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Re: Leaking CFR Relief Valve
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2007, 10:25:08 pm »
I used to own a CFR 400 psi.

The pressure control numpty wouldnt let you open it up to more than 400psi.

But if you took the numpty off and turned a screw inside it would then go all the way up to about 600 psi.

I found this out by accident, when doing a repair.

If you want accurate info on your CFR phone the suppliers, they dont bite and the info is free !
Staffordshire

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Re: Leaking CFR Relief Valve
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2007, 08:21:38 am »
follow chris r's advice, contact the main distributers of the cfr workstations in the uk, i'll spell it out for you once again dopey!!!!!!!!! WWW.AMTECHUK.BIZ     PHONE No; 0845 130 4755    if your unable to carry out this simple task, i'm sure i could find out for you! BE BRAVE J/B! PUT YOUR PROFILE UP!     

Jaybee

  • Posts: 49
Re: Leaking CFR Relief Valve
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2007, 08:06:00 pm »
Are you going to answer my question? Or where you actually just making stuff up when you said you could damage the pump by turning the pressure up too high?