[Mark Lane-Matthews]

No they were not random letters ,and it has nothing to do with being a slave,just choices.Len don,'t tell me what i am or am not ,if i do not not want to clean with detergents that is my privalidge.My dilemma was pointed out  in a previous post ,and  has absolutley  nothing to do with being a purist.
              Thank you John Kelly for your answer ,which was the reason for starting the topic.
                                                                              Mark

[Ian Puckett]

len i got a letter fron WS a couple of weeks ago tellin me that solutoins were no longer on the list so you did not look very well

[Len Gribble]

Mark

Don’t get your balls in a twist Generic term and John captured the moment pubs bit like most houses now you are in a 22 position! now that sad no income! But you did come across as one!

Ian

Don’t think I missed anything on their web site since 03 how ever not privy to there listing thought it would be on their site

Lets have a look at this letter, and then I will eat humble pie, am sure WS
Won’t object to this posting as in their interest!

Len

[Ian Puckett]

len you can see the page like it was at http://web.archive.org/web/20050921114300/www.woolsafe.org/cleanprodsupp.htm

its under thw makers name

[carpetguy]

Mark

Nobody on here is attempting to " tell you what to use " but you are choosing to have an organisation tell you, by inferring you will lose membership, to their club !

I'm sure there are a few on here, like myself, with 20, or more years, in the business working without feeling the need to belong to w/s

I have cleaned hundreds of wool carpets over the years and have used products which were " woolsafe " acreditted ".........when doing so, clients were informed, if they were interested, which was rare.

There are products which were approved, having paid very large sums for the privelege, but found the ongoing registration fees to be "uneconomic" and did not continue.........................now, if a product was , tested and approved and is unchanged, it is clearly,  "  still safe to be used on wool  "

[CARPET KNIGHTS]

This is my take on this....

I have heard of a few companies pulling out of woolsafe ie no longer registering thier products. I think that by woolsafe telling it's woolsafe technicians that they have to use woolsafe products they are hoping that the said companies will loose so much custom that they will see the need to re register thier product.

Cheers Goron

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Could be that Nick is selling less MS and more mpower so that would another product to test and pay for aswell as annual registeration, and just perhaps when a chemical company drops its subscription WS have to tell you of this so you can't go using the product and say it is wool safe APPROVED.

So the WS Association has a sting in its tale for those chemical companies that are thinking of opting out!

Shaun

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Goron I think you beat me to it.

Shaun

[CARPET KNIGHTS]

Glad i'm not the only one!

The carpet cleaners conspiracy theory

Cheers Goron

[Shaun_Ashmore]

To be honest Goron there is more and more of this going on this opens a can of worms.

Shaun

[Mike Roper]

I think woolsafe operators will still use the logos if they think its benefiting their business and pay their subs BUT will use their own common sense , discretion and experience in choosing which product they will use for each job whether the product is woolsafe approved or not.
Mike

[Mark Lane-Matthews]

For me it is not just a decision of just pulling out of Woolsafe ,as i have already said i do have a connection with a carpet retailing franchise which is because i belong to Woolsafe,i have their logo on all my advertising ,van signwritten,litrature,websites,business cards etc and i would say about 75% of carpets i clean are wool  excluding rugs,this will all have to be changed costing me time and money.I will not be dictated too by the way i run my business or the products i use,but woolsafes membership is only £100 per year and it pays for its self many times over.If Nemisis or an collodial cleaner was a registered Woolsafe product i would use that .Woolsafe are only protecting there interests so i have no anamosity towards them ,there are Woolsafe microsplitters which still give very good results on the market ,which i may start using for a limited period before deciding what i will do as the renew date for my membership is on sept 1.

                                                                      Mark

                                                                         

[carpetguy]

Mark

If someone went along to the carpet retailer you mention and told them, that they had a range of " woolsafe " registered products, which they used on wool carpets, were able to show themselves to be experienced and knowledgable, were insured and had a professional manner / presentation, the retailer and any other prospect would have no reason, not to use them.

Anyone can buy and use w/s products and make it known that they are doing so and by so doing, get the work.................

I have been doing it for years, but, there are fewer wool carpets around each year.

[Len Gribble]

Ian

Thanks

I don’t think I will be eating humble pie after all!

Len

[Ian Gourlay]

What the Woolsafe Org could do is test products that are said to be safe on wool but not aproved by woolsafe and prove they are not


If not its just your are Woolsafe by how bigger cheque book you have

I have always been under the impression that if you use Woolsafe Logo you should use Woolsafe products its the complete consept you are buyin into to give yourself a trading USP 

[Ian Puckett]

len never thort you would anyway weve seen yor atitude

[carpetguy]

Ian

I got a letter many years ago, following a complaint by a local c/c. The letter made it clear that unless I was registered with w/s I had no legal right to use the w/s logo in my advertising.

When I contacted them and told them I was using products which were on their list, they said I could state that I used w/s products, but must not advertise myself, or my company as w/s unless I was on their register ( in other words had paid them a fee )

It's against my nature, to pay someone a fee, in order to use their name.

It's my opinion, that I should get paid a commission for endorsing a product