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matt

Re: superlight work
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2007, 08:54:47 pm »
Matt.

My 'user name' is 'Mike 108' or Mike Siddall or Michael Siddall.

It all gets very confusing with different sites having different criteria for user names or passwords (and often being unable to have your first choice because someone else already has it)

I really need a picture/details/price of a RELOAD pole and details of where to buy it.

Thanks

Mike

Mike your now active to use the site :)

look out for the post FEATHERLITES Merry Christmas on the DIY forum

thats the pos you need :)

Davew

Re: superlight work
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2007, 09:06:16 pm »
Cheshire fishing were selling the Reload up to a few weeks ago ......can't see it on their website anymore though. ???

Alex Gardiner

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Re: superlight work
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2007, 09:27:48 pm »
Hi Mike108

If you visit our site, under the system information pages and videos link you will find a section entitled 'videos'.  This has a couple of videos of the previous generation Super-Lite.  As Dave pointed out, these were modified Maver poles. We have a new Super-Lite coming out at the end of July which is purposed designed by us.  The new pole is equally suitable for heavy duty ground level work as it is for very lightweight 45 ft work. We hope to be able to offer this in a package that will appeal to all DIYers starting at about £330 for a 35ft pole.  We will also be selling it as a full package for those that want to be able to work straight off the shelf

Luke Johnson

Re: superlight work
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2007, 09:53:06 pm »
thanks Alex, I heard you are a bro

Count Phil

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Re: superlight work
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2007, 10:04:16 pm »
It doesn't matter so much as what they are as how light they are! Get a fishing pole and find a bit thick enough to take a gooseneck and presto! Mines shimano.

You do have teething problems and stuff, so next time I'll just buy a gardiners one. what's a few hundred quid when you can save so much energy. I meant what I said - zero effort. It really is the most incredible feel after you're used to normal ones. Pick up your downstairs pole, go on! Its lighter than that gauranteed!!!

If you do want a cheap one (just as good) do a search on this sight for my instructions or go to the diy sight for different ways of doing it.

Luke Johnson

Re: superlight work
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2007, 10:16:03 pm »
quote from window tools forum about Alan, a man in scotland who does the maver fishing superlite, he is now making his own pole, it is made by a company for him for the wfp industry, it is only 1.2kg compare to the 1.6kg of the maver, it also has protection at bases of sections etc etc

" guys Alan at Angler emporium after talking to several window cleaners and seeing what they where using caught onto the idea of the superlite pole, realised it was a maver pole with the taper section added on.So he went about getting this pole and selling it to window cleaners as the ultralite pole at basically near half the price of other suppliers.Realising that the pole could be improved and the availability of the pole would be limited as the mavers are made in china and shipped over to the uk.Alan was slightly concerned with this as when the poles ran out in the uk, you would be left with an obsolete pole.With his connections in the fishing trade he went about having the design taken to Japan, who worked on the strength of the pole for the wfp market.
The designs were then sent the new Mandrel for a new pole made .This Mandrel then came back, and we now have a stronger lighter pole manufactured  in the uk for wfp and can be around for as long as 25 years.I can see new heights being reached with these poles as the manufacturers can have the poles reinforced to what ever strenghth you want at a fraction of cost to sending  it away to specialists.
 
The pole is now out on tests as a prototype and Alan gave me one to try out.Compared to the original Mavers pole, this pole at 40 feet is 1.2kg compared to 1.6kg of the maver
 
the edges are fitted with protector caps to protect the edges.These caps are fitted and each section can still be fitted with the protectors in place.I found this to be a great idea as when you had the maver pole at 30 feet and you came down to 24 feet and took a section off, if the pole hit the ground then the edges got damaged.With the new edge protectors the edges are always kept protected with a 2 inch overlap hitting the ground instead of the pole edge.At the insert edge an insert edge protector has been fitted to also protect the edge from damage in transit.
After using the pole and comparing it with the mavers I found that the sections when pulling apart did not get as tight as the maver, maybe this is down to the smoother surface i dont know.
 
On severaL occasions on the maver I found they got quite tight and needed 2 men to pull them apart, did not find this once on this pole.
 
I need to compliment Alan for his perfection to details in sorting out a good pole even better and at the price of £399 including 30 metres of hose,Brush and small gooseneck, i think he is onto a winner at a price that suits most window cleaners.
 
He has now looked into what we are using on a daily basis like brodex poles, extender poles,facelift poles and unger poles, and cannnot believe the condition or weight of poles that suppliers are putting out to window cleaners, and even more the cost of them.
 
His new projects are light 18ft and 24ft poles, as light as carbon fibre but in fibre glass
 
as stiff as carbon but in fibre glass, and all fitted with quality clamps for extending the poles, but they will not be at rediculous prices as suppliers have sold in the past, but at fair prices for a fair well made product to an industry of mostly one man businesses looking to get into wfp at a reasonable cost.Alan is working on the website and you will be able to see these poles soon but only after he has tested them and he knows in his own mind that he is giving quality and value for money.
 
He said he would like to thank Jeff Brimble whom  I told him gave the inspiration in bringing fishing poles into the industry, and Jeff if you know where I am coming from, imagine the 5 bottom sections of the zensoflex that you use with clamps fitted, obvious it will not be this pole, but you understand the stiffness and lightness of the poles that are coming, with probably duraflex clamps and decent base caps.I recon they will be in par with any facelift pole at a lot less cash to the man in the street.
 
If anyone wants to talk to Alan he is on 
 
Anglers Emporium
01698283903"

Jeff Brimble

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Re: superlight work
« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2007, 10:31:54 pm »
Mike and others. Sad news- Cheshire Fishing have sold out of the Ron Thompson Reload  :'(

2  months ago I found an alternative as an insurance, just need to make some inquirys. ( Note fishing poles go out of production very quickly once a batch has been sold, they then bring in another newer must have model, its the way the system works)

As Luke has pointed out Alan has invested in a new ultra light pole that wont go out of date, is designed for waterfed pole work and is very well priced in the market place. He has a few trial poles out and has sent me one down for consultation, evaluation and report,... which I should recieve tomorrow if its better in any way than an F16, as an independent I shall say so.

Luke Johnson

Re: superlight work
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2007, 10:57:38 pm »
tell us about it as soon as you have used it!!

steve m

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Re: superlight work
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2007, 11:14:48 pm »
is ther a thread with pictures to show the end of the pole where the brush goes on, cos as an angler I know how thin the pole is at the end. Also what length pole do you buy for the equivelent of 24'

Jeff Brimble

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Re: superlight work
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2007, 06:16:00 am »
This forum cannot take immage shack pics.
You usually discard the top 3 metres and start with the No4/5 section. To get 24ft depends on the make and taper but a 10m margin pole should be ok. If you are a fisherman then you may think the poles are not strong enough but in use vertically they are.

Count Phil

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Re: superlight work
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2007, 06:41:38 pm »
I use number three section on my 11.5 metre pole. That makes it twenty seven feet exactly.

Davew

Re: superlight work
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2007, 09:12:55 am »
Had a quick look on ebay and the Thompson Zensorflex pole is still around for those who want a shorter, stronger everyday pole.

steve m

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Re: superlight work
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2007, 09:53:33 am »
do you use the normal match style poles or do you use the carp poles, and what brushes do you use cos the vikans are a little heavy me thinks

dai

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Re: superlight work
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2007, 11:28:50 am »
I'm going to have to get one. I used all five sections of the unger teleplus last thursday, I'm a big bloke, but it's bloody hard work using 5 sections. Dai

Count Phil

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Re: superlight work
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2007, 11:45:02 am »
You use any house broom, sold at tesco etc, they have the same thread as a vikan. They feel rubbish, but when you use them, the're actually very good at getting dirt off. cheap too. Just use any pole.

Davew

Re: superlight work
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2007, 12:32:35 pm »
I think you want a carp pole designed for bigger fish "margin poles , hit and hold and commercial fishery poles" are the terms to look for.

Chris Cottrell

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Re: superlight work
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2007, 12:58:21 pm »
The one I use is th Map F16 commercial fishery pole , its 16m originaly but cut down to suit it goes to 42' then you can add extra sections for the extra hieght you need

I also just added one of Gardiners goosenecks and a supalite brush, I had to cut down the No4 section by about a foot or so, cant remember exactly how much

Chris

sham33

Re: superlight work
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2007, 02:25:33 pm »
Dont you have to put these poles together at each new job? That must be a bit of a drag? Also how hard is it to convert a fishing pole into a wfp? is it a simple task much diy involved?

Chris Cottrell

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Re: superlight work
« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2007, 03:21:31 pm »
Dont you have to put these poles together at each new job? That must be a bit of a drag? Also how hard is it to convert a fishing pole into a wfp? is it a simple task much diy involved?

Yes you have to put it together at each and every job, you wouldnt get a 40' pole in te back of the van
No its not a drag, I can assemble it just as quick as I could raise my old 40' pole

& converting a fishing pole is easy you really only need to cut the top section to suit the gooseneck that you have

Chris

Alex Gardiner

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Re: superlight work
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2007, 03:28:13 pm »
Our new Super-Lite2 is going on sale at the end of July. We will be offering a base version that will be ideal for DIY'ers, it will cut out the hassle of cutting sections and mix and matching different poles. It will have special top section that will allow any standard gooseneck to simply screw on, also the first 5ft section will be almost unbreakable whilst still being very light, meaning that it will be possible to put pressure on low level work and even get away with shutting windows with the pole. But it will still be very competitive in price compared to getting your own fishing pole and modifying it.

We will also offer a more complete off the shelf kit for those who want zero hassle.