[M & C Window Cleaning]

Couldn't the dog poo problem be solved by putting a board on your back seat whilst working?

[Paul Coleman]

It sounds like the backpack and water containers may be the way to go as you only want to do occasional windows with it.  Make sure you recharge every night though as I found mine notorious for running down.  Personally, I found backpack unreliable and my (broken) backpack just gathers dust in the garage.  I bumped into someone who manages perfectly well with a small tank in an estate car and lives locally.  Like you he is mainly a ladder user and uses WFP on an occasional basis.

[LSB]

i am also considering using trolley ( freedom) from estate car ,
 if anyone local to me in harrow uses one and wouldnt mind letting me come and see it in use i would appreciate it .
lloyd 0775 478 0539

[Alex Wingrove]

william, please read my dilemma  first, i have a car, not a van, in which i dont want a huge tank taking up all the boot space

[Paul Coleman]

william, please read my dilemma  first, i have a car, not a van, in which i dont want a huge tank taking up all the boot space

Not sure who William is but I was referring to a tank that's about 125 litres (maximum)  in size and is upright.  Seems to leave the guy plenty of other room. I wouldn't dismiss it so readily.  It wouldn't take up any more room than a backpack and barrels.  Of course, if you want to be able to use the back of the estate for other things then clearly a fixed tank is not an option.  In that situation I would go for the backpack.  It can get a bit heavy lugging it around though.

[Alex Wingrove]

william was someone who replied earlier

that's the thing i do want the use of the boot sometimes, just don't want heavy great big tank taking up the room, thing with backpack and barrels are i can take them in and out willy nilly.

wished i had it today, i had a few Georgians, i have Georgians

[brett walker]

The latest pure freedom trolley is very light and small it would be ideal to work from an estate car with water barrels but a van would be better.

If you are looking for a cheap option then go for a backpack

You could make your own trolley diy

Also available on here is the pure ease

It all depends on your circumstances really

Brett

[williamx]

Alex

A 125 litre tant is smaller than an average suitcase and when empty its quite easy to take out of the back of your car, you don't need to bolt it down you can just use straps.

If you want to spend over five hundred pounds on a trolley system which takes up more space and weight than a 125 litre tank then that up to you, but I have not used my trolley in over 3 years

[NWH]

I still can`t get my head round how much they charge for them trolleys,after all it`s only a battery,pump,varistream or similar.?

[Alex Wingrove]

i think the trolley is out of the question now, as i wont be needing it all the time, i only mainly want it for 3rd storey work

will the 40psi be able to handle that?

and a 125l tank is much bigger than a suitcase

[williamx]

You ain't seen my suitcase

[brett walker]

i think the trolley is out of the question now, as i wont be needing it all the time, i only mainly want it for 3rd storey work

will the 40psi be able to handle that?

and a 125l tank is much bigger than a suitcase

Looks like a backpack will be best for you working from an estate car and the set up costs would be minimum

Brett.

[Alex Wingrove]

haha, is it a mary poppins one?

if i went efp fully i would get a van and tank but im not thinking od doing it atm, just want something so i can wfp some difficult windows some 3rd storey stuff and Georgian, a tank just seem like too much hard work

oh btw will what trolley have you got?

[williamx]

This water tank I can carry in my suitcase http://www.water-tanks.net/cleaning_services.htm

A 40 psi pump will go up 3 storey houses no problem.

[Jeff Brimble]

A 35psi flojet will do 60ft ideally you need one without a pressure switch otherwise the weight of the column of water may cause it to cycle off.

[Paul Coleman]

haha, is it a mary poppins one?

    .  I reckon you need a car like the Tardis.  Bigger on the inside than the outside.

[williamx]

haha, is it a mary poppins one?

if i went efp fully i would get a van and tank but im not thinking od doing it atm, just want something so i can wfp some difficult windows some 3rd storey stuff and Georgian, a tank just seem like too much hard work

oh btw will what trolley have you got?

Alex

If you are only doing a few houses then a backpack is ok, but before you spend your money on a trolley-backpack or whatever, check if there are access issues, a lot of houses now days have no access to the back unless you go though the house, or the path to the back is full of rubbish and draging a trolley can be a nightmare.

A backpack is ok, but the main problem is filling it up all the time, at the end of a long day, lifting over 20 kilos onto your back can be a pain.

With a hose system, with the water tank left in the car, is much more quicker and easier on the body.  By the time you have got your trolley or backpack out and filled it up and connected everything that you need to, I would have finshed the job and be on my way to the next house.  

[brett walker]

If you just start doing the odd window with wfp before long you will find you will be using it more and more 

I find taking my ladder off is a chore its just easier to wfp all the tops, i havent been up the ladder properly for over a year now last week did a gutter job the next day my legs were aching lke mad.  I found that with not going up the ladder for so long i was very shakey

Brett

[Alex Wingrove]

but i dont want to trail a hose pipe everywhere, if i have a backpack, its lift and go, lifting 20k isnt hard work do it all day will be double 12' wooden a frame above my head, and as for filling, it wont take long compared to not doing the job at all because i cant reach certain windows, getting a tank just seems to defeat the simplicity of the desire, unless you can suggest a tank i can clever put into me astra estate

[D.Salkeld_Ltd]

Alex,

I recon:

1. Can you get  6 25ltr barrels in your car boot (even if you put the back seat down?)?

Now I have these:

www.performance-equestrian.com/cat/cat010100x-item_1.html

They are 30ltr (Cramed full 32ltr )
6 of these = 180ltr + BP full = 198 ltrs

Thats what I have in my traler.....................I have only ONCE squeezed the last drop out of the lot

To use the Backpack on 2nd setting you will use no more that 200 ltrs a day


Also get a 100gpd RO that will give you 160 - 200ltrs of pure water over a 24hr period.  If you find that's not enough then you can, for about £50 - £60 add another 100gpd RO to your whole unit.

Basicaly I recon you should have:

1 x 100gpd 5 stage RO www.ro-man.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=34&osCsid=a261cafd969efe1ac9c59560ba3e91d7
withwww.ro-man.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=33&products_id=98&osCsid=a261cafd969efe1ac9c59560ba3e91d7

Your 1000ltr IBC

That will purifie enough water for you

Then

6 x 30ltr barrels
1 x Sureflow Backpack.  Get a spare battery AND a multi charger from Maplins and dump the US charger

1 x 18 foot pole (Choice is yours : :)

1 X 30 - 35' pole (If you do 2nd floor )

1 x 4ft pole (for downstairs)

When you get going and save a bit of money up I would concider getting a trailer so you can mount the BP and use atransfer pump to fill it so as NOT TO LIFT IT

Hope this helps

David