[johnm]

i have upgraded from a 250 ltr to a baffled 400 ltr in my berlingo van i feel the diffrence is this tank to heavy

[john tomkins]

The tank aint too heavy but if you brim it with water it may well be
Only got a 250ltr in mine and with it's 600kg payload a full 400ltr would be very close to the limit.

[marc]

so what would be the most you would carry in one of these vans (berlingo,kangoo,combo) and if you want to go up to 600 or 650 (dispatch,expert,sudo) what else would take 600/650 without going to big ?

[tinnams]

I am using a Berlingo 1.4 petrol / gas 600kg. I had the rear suspension upgraded to 800kg and I have fitted two 250 water tanks, works really well

[dave0123]

I am using a Berlingo 1.4 petrol / gas 600kg. I had the rear suspension upgraded to 800kg and I have fitted two 250 water tanks, works really well

How much did this cost tinnams?? Just roughly


Dave

[tinnams]

I am using a Berlingo 1.4 petrol / gas 600kg. I had the rear suspension upgraded to 800kg and I have fitted two 250 water tanks, works really well

How much did this cost tinnams?? Just roughly


Dave
[Hi Dave, around £325 done by Citroen garage/quote]

[The Seven Bays Window Cleaning Company]

I am using a Berlingo 1.4 petrol / gas 600kg. I had the rear suspension upgraded to 800kg and I have fitted two 250 water tanks, works really well

How much did this cost tinnams?? Just roughly


Dave
[Hi Dave, around £325 done by Citroen garage/quote]

Do you know exactly what they changed yo up rate it to 800kg's?

Is it just the springs, or tyres as well?

[Spursboy1972]

At a guess the springs, maybe the struts. If you are carrying weight in a van you should be running on "C" rated tyres anyway. They are designed to handle the weight.

[windowwashers]

i have upgraded from a 250 ltr to a baffled 400 ltr in my berlingo van i feel the diffrence is this tank to heavy

a 400L tank full weighs about 435kg, pumps hose ect about say 25kg tank of fuel about 80kg ladders say anotrher 20kg 2 people sat in van and being nice 100kg not including other bits and bobs you will put in tells you the tank is to big for the payload

[[GQC] Tim]

Citroen Berlingo upgrade is more then what you think it is.

Rear torsion bar and stabiliser bar are of a bigger diameter.
Front Shocks need to be replaced with 800 model (Rear shocks are the same)
Front stabilizer is of a bigger diameter.

I'm having it done early next week. I have a spare 800 van, and with a third party garage, not Citroen, it will cost me £450-£500 (much cheaper garage). And that is just a simple swap of the parts. So I would check with Citroen what exactly it is what they've upgraded. Because that is too cheap.

[dave0123]

My dad works in vauxhalls actully on the axles for combo's

and there all the same!! the combo van models everything butt you can get two diffrent payloads 595kg and 740kg the only thing thats changed on that van is springs.

ano your talking about a berlingo but thought it share that with you.

[[GQC] Tim]

My dad works in vauxhalls actully on the axles for combo's

and there all the same!! the combo van models everything butt you can get two diffrent payloads 595kg and 740kg the only thing thats changed on that van is springs.

ano your talking about a berlingo but thought it share that with you.

Thanks for the info!

Yea the berlingo doesn't use leaf springs, they use a torsion bar.

[john tomkins]

My dad works in vauxhalls actully on the axles for combo's

and there all the same!! the combo van models everything butt you can get two diffrent payloads 595kg and 740kg the only thing thats changed on that van is springs.

ano your talking about a berlingo but thought it share that with you.

On the combo I'm sure the 595kg has rear drums and the 740kg has rear discs (well mine does)

[Londoner]

400ltrs by definition weighs 400kgs. This should easily be handled by a standard 600kg Berlingo.
Where the problem may come is in the distribution of weight. You want to get the weight low down and between the axles.

A full upright tank is going to cause the van to roll and feel top heavy. Also, so called baffled tanks are often little better than useless in preventing water sloshing around.

Take the term baffled to mean "It has got a baffle but don't expect too much, you are still going to feel that water shift when you go round corners."

[[GQC] Tim]

400ltrs by definition weighs 400kgs. This should easily be handled by a standard 600kg Berlingo.
Where the problem may come is in the distribution of weight. You want to get the weight low down and between the axles.

A full upright tank is going to cause the van to roll and feel top heavy. Also, so called baffled tanks are often little better than useless in preventing water sloshing around.

Take the term baffled to mean "It has got a baffle but don't expect too much, you are still going to feel that water shift when you go round corners."

Mate, if it would have been only the tank+400l yes. Add everything up and your over 700Kg. That's why people fit a 250l tank.

[scud]

  You are only over weight going out in the mornings, you will be allright coming home.

[Londoner]

400ltrs by definition weighs 400kgs. This should easily be handled by a standard 600kg Berlingo.
Where the problem may come is in the distribution of weight. You want to get the weight low down and between the axles.

A full upright tank is going to cause the van to roll and feel top heavy. Also, so called baffled tanks are often little better than useless in preventing water sloshing around.

Take the term baffled to mean "It has got a baffle but don't expect too much, you are still going to feel that water shift when you go round corners."

Mate, if it would have been only the tank+400l yes. Add everything up and your over 700Kg. That's why people fit a 250l tank.

What else do you carry that would weigh 200Kg? Thats 4 hundredweight.

[steven ainger]

i have upgraded from a 250 ltr to a baffled 400 ltr in my berlingo van i feel the diffrence is this tank to heavy

a 400L tank full weighs about 435kg, pumps hose ect about say 25kg tank of fuel about 80kg ladders say anotrher 20kg 2 people sat in van and being nice 100kg not including other bits and bobs you will put in tells you the tank is to big for the payload

[Londoner]

People don't count as laden weight and I don't think fuel does either. My Peugot Partner handbook (same as Berlingo) says cargo/payload 600kg.

[dd]

I Have citroen dispatch 2.0 hdi, payload 900kg, 600l tank.
Put it on a weigh bridge approx 550l water (hard to fill tank 100%). Wooden ladders, spare battery, half a tank of fuel and me (just under 11 stone, don't know what my kg is). It was pretty much on the limit for the vehicle, front and rear axle loads were fine.
Tank heavier than average, it is 10mm polypropylene.
Ususally to be on safe side subtract 300 from payload to give you size of tank.
If your tank is a bit too big just don't fill it right up.
Payloads usually include the weight of the driver and fuel. Only way to check for sure is to fill up and go on a weigh bridge. Just gave the guy £10 cash as I didn't want the doccumentation.