[Chris Cottrell]

Stick with it , it'll get better

Bob
hows your own windows then

Chris

[Sir Squeaky]

I know its not funny but boy squeeky do i look forward to your posts.

Please keep us informed cos Im looking at you for any problems that i may come across. What did you do with the ones that leaked inside? Did you just apologise or leave it.

Bod

Had to apologise, it was embarrassing.

I just won't be able to do some of them WFP, and as most were georgian I don't want to go back to doing them by hand.

Shame to lose customers of 10 years, but I'm not going injure my arm scrubbing again.

I'll see if I can get a local trad cleaner to do them.
I feel I should, as it's not the customer's fault.

[Bobs Window Cleaning]

Chris.
My own windows didnt too bad at all. Although I did use much too much water(on a meter), almost 15 litres on 1 frame with 4 pane in it. Thinking rinse rinse rinse.

Im in Earsham tommorow...is that your end of the woods?

Bod

[Chris Cottrell]

I'm out near Stradbroke tomoz on 1 job all day start at 7.30

[Tosh]

Although I did use much too much water(on a meter), almost 15 litres on 1 frame with 4 pane in it. Thinking rinse rinse rinse.

Bod

Bod, on a WFP new clean - on a semi for example - wash all the frames and windows; you don't have to go overboard; then return to the first window and wash and rinse each window again; GLASS ONLY.

Then the following month, you only have to go round once.

By the third month, you should be flying round; say no more than 45 seconds spent on a window such as you've described in your post; possibly less.

Keep practising on your own house; if it's suitable.  Try and do it as fast as you can; then see what the results are like.

I live in a shoe-box; it has 6 windows and one door (with a window in it).  I can do my house in under five minutes and it generally turns out good.

You definately don't need to use 15 litres on one window.

[Bobs Window Cleaning]

Thanks Tosh. 

On the 2nd months clean do I clean all the frame again as well as the glass or clean the top of the frame and glass?

Bod

[Russell Macdonald]

Bod.

Clean the frames & glass every time. In a few months time it will take seconds to do the lot & will look mint  .

Macc

[Bobs Window Cleaning]

Cheers mac

[Sir Squeaky]

Looking forward to that!

I ran out of water at 2pm today.
Buggered if I was going to go over to Ian's to top up, when I'd still need more for tomorrow.
On the first cleans when I'll just have to get done what I can.
I'm sure on normal cleans 300-350L should be enough for 5-6 hours work.

Also, for the 2nd time in 3 days my system stopped with an airlock.
At least I know how to cure it now.

Still annoying though.
I think it's where I've been quite low on water and sucked in a bit of air if I've parked on a slope.
It's always been on the last job of the day.

Still, at least I'm earning again now.

[Tosh]

Bod,

Concentrate more on the top frame; that's the area that'll give you problems; rather than the side bits of the frame.

I don't really clean 'side frames'; just rub my brush over them now-and-again.

I do different things for different windows; sash windows for example I'll clean and rinse all the top sashes (including the top frame), the transome bar and just below the transome bar first; for maybe two or three windows (then rinse what I've just cleaned, ie the top frame, the top sash window, the transome bar and the area just beneath); then return to the first window and then clean and rinse the bottom sashes.

I do this to minimise the risk of pure water running over the transome bar, picking up dirt, and depositing it onto the lower sash.

Think a little bit about your 'pane order'.

Am I making sense?

If not blame Ian Giles; he's beasted me on a squash court and then forced beer down my kneck!!!

[Tosh]

Roger (Squeaks),

What's your overall thoughts on WFP?

Do you prefer it to ladders?

Are you finding it physically easier?

Do you think you can earn more money now you're WFP?

[Russell Macdonald]

Hi Squeaky.

These are all silly things in a few months time you will look back & laugh about. You have made the right move mate.

I went through it all 16 months ago & i'm glad i switched, you will feel the same in a few months time.

All the best mate.

Macc

[Sir Squeaky]

Roger (Squeaks),

What's your overall thoughts on WFP?
Different. Enjoying the change so far.

Do you prefer it to ladders?
Certainly less tiring, but it's more to do in some ways, what with reeling out hose, attatching pole, avioding pots and car tyres etc...

Are you finding it physically easier?
My neck aches from looking up, which isn't good.
However my legs aren't tired, and when your legs are tired you feel drained.
Definately not so shattered in the evenings.

Do you think you can earn more money now you're WFP?
Definately on some things.
Not so sure on others.
Averaged out I'd say yes, but hard to tell how much more.
Obviously not at the moment though!

[Sir Squeaky]

Cheers Macc.
I hope you're right!

[Tosh]

Roger,

You're a bright bloke, I'm sure you'll be okay.

Just keep on thinking, 'If Macc can do it; anyone can'.

Ian_Giles tells me that you're going off to work without carrying ladders; even though you've got a roof rack on your van.

I still have accounts I use ladders on; you've got bigger balls than me.

Good on you!  I hope to be following in your footsteps shortly.

[Russell Macdonald]

Cheers Macc.
I hope you're right!

Trust me Rog, you will.

I thought it was science what was in the van & all the little problems. I'm not thick just more manual thinking but its all second nature now.

Once your over the first couple of cleans, worked out where to set up from & got your routine sorted you will be fine. Even now i alter my routine slightly & it speeds me up even more.

Macc

[Russell Macdonald]

Roger,



Just keep on thinking, 'If Macc can do it; anyone can'.

 

[Sir Squeaky]

Ian_Giles tells me that you're going off to work without carrying ladders; even though you've got a roof rack on your van.

I still have accounts I use ladders on; you've got bigger balls than me.

Good on you!  I hope to be following in your footsteps shortly.

I'm sure there's some things I'll need ladders for.
I've got a few "over the garage" jobs I'll have to use them on.

My old folks home is another one.
150-odd yards long with one parking area.
Windows always open.
Customers pay me at the windows.
The council do them three times a year WFP and they hate it, and can't wait for me to tidy up!
I've got no chance on that one!
I don't mind though.

It's just that so far I haven't needed the ladders.
I'm not putting them on until I have to.

[JM123]

Squeeks, if the council do it wfp, but they don't like it - chances are because you done them with the squeegee then when the council do it with the pole its gonna leave spots (also because the council boys probably don't know how to wfp - thats if the water is even purified at all).  Try them a couple of times with the pole  - I'd say they;ll come up fine. 

150 yards?  What length of hose you got?  I do a nursing home about the same, parking area is at one end, I have another reel with 50m garden hose and I just use it as an extra long patch lead to my other reel (100m minibore).  Flow is still the same but does take some winding in!!

[Jeff Brimble]

Leaving ladders at home is a good way of really finding out which few you do need ladders for and make a note. Often you can reach over with the pole.