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Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2007, 12:36:43 pm »
Matt, work like this, in the long run, you can do without, let the other guy kill himself for peanuts, he is not trying to deliver the quality of service that you are, stick to your goals, things will come right, eventually people will hire you on reputation and recomendation no matter what your price, but it takes time.

good luck

trevor perry

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Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2007, 02:30:14 pm »
why is it that when someone puts a cheap price in people always jump to the conclusion that they must be a firm of cowboys , when i looked at the size of the room the job at a push could have been done for about £240 and maybe who ever did the job put a  cheap price in just to get his foot in the door for further work which i myself do on large jobs or if i am a bit quiet , it is better to make a bit of money rather than sit at home with no work.
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

matt jones

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Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2007, 05:49:47 pm »
because if you do a job properly you cannot do it cheap! But a fair enough comment and do you know what if they had got back to me and said we have had a cheaper quote can you come down abit or price match then i probably would off but they didn't ask that is what was annoying and i find alot of people are to afriad to ask why would you want to discount the job if at first you don't know if there will be any resistance you wouldn't you would discount after if you wanted it. But hey ho let them learn i suppose.
matt

trevor perry

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Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2007, 08:08:18 pm »
sorry to disagree but i feel that if someone was to give me a qoute for a job then i aproached them and said i had got it a lot cheaper and they then turned round and said they would beat the new price , then alarm bells would start ringing thinking they was trying to rip me off with their original qoute , it is better to give what you think is a fair price for the job and stick to it , if someone beats that price then good luck to them but dont call someone a cowboy just because their cheap rather why not go back and see the standard off the job done, if it is bad point the faults out to the manager and explain how you would of got it better, if he has done a good job try and find how long it took at least you will know how much your competitor is willing to work for.
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

matt jones

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Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2007, 08:39:44 pm »
To be honest i really don't care what my compitition are willing to work for there will always be someone cheaper then you so why work your nuts of for nothing.
Matt

Damian

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Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2007, 10:43:03 pm »
Matt, you started this post saying how you were not experienced in this kind of work and didnt know what to charge etc etc and thats fair play to you for being honest. Now the crunch part is there are people who will either take a risk/gamble on submitting a quote with little or no experience and others whom just see it as a routine job. Dont lose heart over one loss but rather learn from the experience it has given you. Personally i would rather undercut on a new venture to get many many repeats-(hotels have a lot of staff-remember) than go for top dollar initially. Incidentally the next time you do a hotel/b and b always flood their bars with cards AND have a large A-SIGN out front to give them an idea of whom you are-it tends to stick in some memories!

Damian  8)
Kids for the ex-missus. The fireblade is my baby!!

matt jones

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Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2007, 10:56:41 pm »
Damian thanks for the advice mate. I get a feeling that alot of stuff which is said on here is far from the truth especially when it comes to prices and what people are prepare to work for. When i got there i asked if the had already had any quotes the answer was no so i had nothing to go on i had no idea what price they had in there head im no mind reader but in future i will ask them before i start if they are after the cheapest quote or a thorough quality job um you can pretty much guess what they will say ::)
Makes me wonder how some of you manage to get some real serious prices?
Please feel free to share your experiences
Matt

Damian

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Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2007, 11:13:55 pm »
Matt, not on ere mate! lol There are too many snipers! lol I keep my businesses close to my chest-TIGHTLY! Dont mind if you wanna e-snail me tho. Will help where i can. Although i dont really know much about this cleaning game as i only own a puzzi s and a numatic cleantec and i wear high heels with spurs!! :o lol

Damian  8)
Kids for the ex-missus. The fireblade is my baby!!

carpetguy

Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2007, 11:35:30 pm »
Matt

Next time you quote for this kind of job, it might be worth considering how long it will take to actually do the job, and remember that commercial work is usually more price driven, than domestic.

rob


Damian

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Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2007, 12:32:02 am »
Ching!! lol

Damian  8)
Kids for the ex-missus. The fireblade is my baby!!

Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2007, 09:44:00 am »
I dont care what anyone says, if this joker has gone it at £300 to undercut all other quotes then, he is welcome to it, he will only last so long, in my opinion a part timer probably looking to earn a quick buck to subsidise his dole money, as far as i am concerned for that size of job in this part of the world at that price, it's border line slave labour, i would forget it and move on, there is so much work out there, all you gotta do is go get it matt.

matt jones

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Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2007, 11:20:47 am »
cheers for all the advice guys it has been very helpful!
matt

carpetguy

Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2007, 01:14:38 pm »
Meanwhile Matt.........you think.........how long would it have taken to complete.

Slavery !!!!!!!!!at £100 to £150 plus per hour.......get real......this kind of comment totally misleads : -

The public viewers of the forums.

The people who are in their early stages of the business.

rob


brucie

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Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2007, 02:16:56 pm »
1600sq feet = 178sq yds X £1.50 for commercial work = £267

trevor perry

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Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2007, 03:04:23 pm »
brucie that price of £267 is spot on and i would veiw that as a decent price that is why i said £240 to get your foot in the door.on commercial work i think people have to be realistic to what businesses are willing to pay.
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2007, 04:58:23 pm »
£1.50 A SQ/YARD????????? YOU ARE STILL LIVING IN THE DARK AGES MAN!

IF THATS ALL YOU CAN GET, YOU ARE WELCOME TO IT! :o

Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2007, 05:08:21 pm »
furthermore, for all the public viewers of this forum, if you are covering the 178 sq/yds that quick to earn 100 or 150 per hour, you must be giving it a quick flick over and your gone, so i have to disagree with your comments and believe you are the one trying to mislead.

spindle

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Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2007, 06:46:36 pm »
why does anybody care what anybody else earns??? ???

if someone works for peanuts.........then that is their choice :-X

personally i prefer steak!!!! ;D
life is one big learning experience!!!!!!!

trevor perry

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Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2007, 06:58:11 pm »
jimmy i think an area 7yds by 10yds is easily acheivable in an hours work even if the carpet is extremely dirty ok you would have maybe 20 minutes set up and put away time on top of that but at £1.50 a yd that is £105 for say an hour and halfs work so if that is working for peanuts i dont mind being the monkey doing it.
   i think what people have to remember is that large areas are much easier and quicker to clean in that your not moving things around as much and pipes etc getting in the way, also your not wasting time travelling from small job to small job setting up and putting away but spending more time in productive cleaning so my price would reflect that.
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

spindle

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Re: Commercial advice needed
« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2007, 07:08:29 pm »
trevor.......

i would work for those peanuts too ;D ;D

life is one big learning experience!!!!!!!