[*thomas james]

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[H h20]

I think ALL poles no matter what make, and if carbon or fibreglass should be available to buy on their own,
Gaz

[macmac]

i cant think of anything worse!!!! adapting such an excellent pole to stick that rubbish on the end of it is just crazy!

it's like putting cooking oil in a ferrari.

[U.S. wfp USER]

I think ALL poles no matter what make, and if carbon or fibreglass should be available to buy on their own,
Gaz

Spoken like a true brush salesman.   

[s woodliff]

i disagree with you there mate the face lift brush is ok but i have had to change one of my face lift poles because when doing small sash an case windows we have found that it very akward to get in to the corners an up underneath the top sash ect so thanks to this atachment it was possible for us to change one of our poles.

[U.S. wfp USER]

I think the Facelift brush is superior to all others, other then when needing to get up under that sash.

Its superb for commercial for sure.  I have switched to the Vikan on my residential pole though.

[Alex Gardiner]

Pole manufacturers/retailers can of course decide to sell the pole anyway they wish to! They have invested the money and time developing so if they decide that's the way to develop it then that's their choice.

As a consumer though it has always been very annoying!! Which is why when we started supplying we always have offered the opportunity to buy poles on their own, or in varying degrees of 'build'.

Alex Gardiner

[macmac]

joking apart, i've only ever used the oval vikans which are a total no-go for under sash windows.the new rectangular one does look ok though. i agree about the small sash window problem as the facelift is 14" i too can't get it into small ones. however, on bigger sashes it's great, not had one drip/smear or anything from under a sash since using this brush, with the oval vikans this used to be a nightmare, very often had to go up ladder to scrim smears off and get into corners.

i'm looking for a 10" brush for the facelift pole ( must be equivalent or better than the standard brush) so does anyone have any recomendations? Alex?

[JM123]

I've used every brush available and even had a wee go with the facelift - didn't think the pole was that good (not for the money) and the brush was simply awful - gaz's brushes are much much better, don't be afraid to try, I promise you you won't go back.

[macmac]

will have to try one of these gaz brushes.

Jm-  the money dont come into it for me (pole), compared to what i had before i would happily pay double it's retail price if i had to and replace it every year if  needed. the facelift carbon pole and brush has given me a new lease of life! perfect results every time, job done so much quicker, so light and easy to use- the bennefits go on......

to me (personaly) the pole and brush are worth there weight in gold.

[JM123]

so the dodgy clamps don't bother you?  I'm not trying to say its not a good pole - it is, but I reckon its well over-priced for all it is, and its not even much lighter than other lightweight carbon poles.

[macmac]

i cant realy comment jm as i'm honest, i always tell it as i see it, my experience. if its crap i'll say it's crap, if it's good then say it's good.

so this is my personal view, i have never used another carbon pole so i cant compare it to one. i'm not suggesting its the best pole in the world to anyone, but it is to me. havent had a problem with the clamps yet, what should i expect??
i agree its expensive but even if it was 2k i still wish i had started with one 3 years ago instead of struggling with a 40ft fibreglass pole.

[U.S. wfp USER]

so the dodgy clamps don't bother you?  I'm not trying to say its not a good pole - it is, but I reckon its well over-priced for all it is, and its not even much lighter than other lightweight carbon poles.

What dont you like about the clamps?

[Paul Coleman]

so the dodgy clamps don't bother you?  I'm not trying to say its not a good pole - it is, but I reckon its well over-priced for all it is, and its not even much lighter than other lightweight carbon poles.

What dont you like about the clamps?

I'll be after an 18 foot light (rigid) pole soon and would like to hear about these clamps too.  I won't name the source but I heard that the clamps break far too easily.  I would appreciate hearing some personal experience of this (rather than hearsay).  Anyone used Facelift poles and had broken clamp problems?

[Jeff Brimble]

I have not seen a Facelift but I had this reply as a person to person comment so cannot say and will not discuss who sent it, in very early December. I have held it back for some time.

"The pole is nice and light but has two problems. The clamp levers are thin plastic and snap very easily, we have supplied several poles to customers and each time have had to supply spare levers - to the point of supplying 18 levers for one pole to an overseas customer. The brush heads look good but are probably the worst in the industry in use.

[s woodliff]

i have had 1 broken clamp and the r dear to replace

[U.S. wfp USER]

I personally have been using the poles for 6 months and supplied many of them here in the US and have not had any complaints.  All I have heard about the clamps is how people seem to really like the design.  They dont get snagged in trees, on gutters, etc.

[macmac]

after reading these comments i've been and had a closer look at the clamps and leavers on my 44ft facelift carbon. to be totally honest it's hard to see just how these clamps or leavers could break unless they were very badly missused. if however mine do break within 12 months of purchase i'll be staight on to facelift to try and get them to sort it out (for free) (sale of goods act & all that?).i've been using it solid for about 3 months now and had no problem at all with any aspect of the pole or brush, if i do, however, i'll report on this forum right away. to hear people say that the brush is rubbish actually makes me very happy because i think its brilliant, the best brush i have ever used, so, i'm pleased to know that i can get a better brush and make my work even quicker & easier. i also hope that there are better poles out there too for the same reason.
I value everyone's oppinion on this forum, this way we all end up better off, with better products. as you can tell i'm over the moon with the facelift, but as soon as that changes ( if at all it does) i'll be completely honest & report any such problems.

regards

tony

[master cleaner]

ive got 3 facelift poles 2 gf and 1 carbon and i love the clamps been using them for over a year and am very happy

gary

[brett walker]

Ive heard a lot of good reports about facelift poles but some people dont like the brushes

I think the clamps are quite an important factor as i am on my second set on my ionics ergolite pole in under a year 

I will be going to the nec show and will have a look at them all closely

Brett