[josephus]

fair point jago

i will shut up.

however its a red rag to me this one.
i even raised this one myself many moons ago.

cheers

jo

[JM123]

ow come its a red rag to you?

[josephus]

ill wait till i get shouted at a little bit. and if mods allow will happily open a new thread here on any board you want.

cheers

jo

though i would allways recommend a websearch of something thats lables itself "the truth"

[darren_smart]

yep...please keep it civil were all here cos were window cleaners .... 'friendly lot.. 'i thought regardless of wich religion your part of ..or not....dont spoil it for me..

[JM123]

No one is gonna start 'shouting' at you - we're a placcid lot us here on CIU (Ian Giles can be hard work but no one pays any attention to him  )

[Jago]

like everything everyone has got to have a different view Life would be sooooo boring with everything the same
Jo has his View I got mine but each to there own
I can pick holes all day
But it is thier faith

Anyhooooo who cares seems 40 % are where or still have connections so in that case could be 60%

Scary huh Jo lol

[Jago]

JM do you know the Ponds are they still on that there Island?

[josephus]

jm123

i nearly lost my sister to those blood transfusion rules and had to ignore her for 15 years because she dared to break the rules.

thankfully now i have a great relationship with her, no thanks to "the truth"
jo

but ill stop now

[Paul Coleman]

fair point jago

i will shut up.

however its a red rag to me this one.
i even raised this one myself many moons ago.

cheers

jo

If you feel resentment against them, surely the best revenge is to have a good life and show you don't need their belief system.
If you experience anger towards them, surely they are running your life just as surely  as if you were one of their number?
Just a couple of thoughts.

[Paul Coleman]

jm123

i nearly lost my sister to those blood transfusion rules and had to ignore her for 15 years because she dared to break the rules.

thankfully now i have a great relationship with her, no thanks to "the truth"
jo

but ill stop now

Sure thing.  I wasn't without my problems with them too.  It's healthy to rise above it and forgive them.  Took me a long time but I got there in the end.

[josephus]

more than dhw, and maybe more thought out than his last.

jo

[JM123]

I've had a number of friends faced with that situation, not one of them has taken blood - they all made the decision for themselves, as for having to ignore her for 15 years thats rubbish and you know it - she's your sister - the elders and society would NEVER tell you to ignore her, they might have asked you not to discuss matters relating to meetings etc but ignore her?/ Never.  Supposed she was banned from coming to meetings?

[Art]

more than dhw, and maybe more thought out than his last.

jo

Well that excludes us none JW's then 

[josephus]

shiner


good advice mate. i try to do just that, but it gets to you sometimes.

jo

[Art]

I've had a number of friends faced with that situation, not one of them has taken blood - they all made the decision for themselves, as for having to ignore her for 15 years thats rubbish and you know it - she's your sister - the elders and society would NEVER tell you to ignore her, they might have asked you not to discuss matters relating to meetings etc but ignore her?/ Never.  Supposed she was banned from coming to meetings?

So am i getting it right here, if your a JW you can't have a blood transfusion?

[josephus]

jm123

you are prepared to state what goes on in other congregations ?

you know all the elders and how they act ?

my sister was made homeless at 16 because my parents were told to do so. that may have been against the rules, but it happened.

your hall may be great, but i bet you know that its just the same there.

again, i think i should leave it now. my email is there if you want me to chat.

josephus

[josephus]

google em Art.

itll scare the crap out of you.

and dhw ive been polite im staying thank you.

jo

[JM123]

Art, if you want to find misconstrued information regarding JW's then by all means google it - if you want to know the facts then I'd suggest you talk to someone who is a JW.

[Art]

Art, if you want to find misconstrued information regarding JW's then by all means google it - if you want to know the facts then I'd suggest you talk to someone who is a JW.

That's why i asked the question?

I 'm open minded about most things, even though i had a gut full of religion being brought up in a catholic, protestant enviroment

[josephus]

Art if you want the fact on unger who do you go to ? Unger or the men who uise Unger and might know what its really like ?

beware anybody who tells you not to look into what they tell you. thats how you get hypnotised

jo