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billozz

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drying scrim
« on: July 09, 2004, 01:41:14 am »
can all the guys that use scrim ...please advise if there are any ways to dry it. we have been told that it must dry naturally...not tumble dryer etc....this is ok when sun is shining (noit often ) but causes probs any other time. we get threough about 40 per day maybe 50.
incidentally not 40 whole  scrim...we cut them in half when we buy but still 40 to 50 pieces of cloth to dry
ideas gratefully acceptede
regards
bill
there are more windows than window cleaners so lets help each other

Reflective Property Services

  • Posts: 48
Re: drying scrim
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2004, 12:34:55 pm »
I always stick mine in the washing machine when I get home on a quick rinse, then either hang them to dry on the radiator or on the clothes horse overnight. If I need them quickly (ie, forgot to hang them out the night before  :-[) I give them a quick going over with the iron. It tends to stiffen them up a bit at first, but I find they soon loosen up once I get working.

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we have been told that it must dry naturally
 ??? Never heard this before, can anyone confirm?
Alex Freegard

matt

Re: drying scrim
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2004, 09:13:35 pm »
Tumble dryer for me, they come out all nice and soft and fluffy :)

you cannot beat it

dean stewart

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Re: drying scrim
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2004, 10:16:10 pm »
I stick mine in the tumble drier.  It's never done them any harm.  Little tip though with new scrims boil them first, rinse then dry.
We blossom in the Garden of England

M4RK

Re: drying scrim
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2004, 10:20:57 pm »
With 40 scrims you'll need a big tumble drier, even if they are half! :o

matt

Re: drying scrim
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2004, 01:01:57 am »
i put 15 - 20 full size scrims in mine, put them on for 60 mins and they are dry as a bone

paul w

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Re: drying scrim
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2004, 01:42:21 am »
washing machine & tumble dryer for me. too new or old have done for last 18 years. no probs so far. cold wash  ::) :P
pane in the glASS

Ian_Giles

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Re: drying scrim
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2004, 03:21:00 am »
Jesus!
How many of you are there!!!!
I have never cut my scrims up, with use they get smaller and thinner and although I now use a WFP, for 20 years I have been a traditional cleaner.
On average, even on winter days and working all day long I only ever went through 3 or 4 scrims at the most.
I have (had) enough scrims so that they only needed one wash a week, and this was always done on a quick wash and then tumble dried afterwards, no problems whatsoever.
On days when I was scrabbling for dry scrims because I had run short, I stuck them on the dash board and turned the heater on full to dry them out.
New scrim, boil wash every time.
After that just put them on a quick wash, they don't need softener, they don't need ironing and you achieve nothing by cutting them up, keep them whole.
On some days (most actually) I would need no more than 3 of them, god knows how you can go through so many :o :o :o :o
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

billozz

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Re: drying scrim
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2004, 10:23:01 am »
ian,
one reason we cut up the scrim, it makes them into a mangable size, a scrim that is about 3 ft square is to big .
i cannot undrstand how you use so few, we have only been w/c a few years but unless we are doing summat wrong ...we mop the window/blade/wipe round then wipe again with a dry cloth to ensure a nice finish as we work through the day the scrim with which we wipe round first becomes quite wet...after say.2/3 houses its too wet to use for wiping round ...it no longer absorbs water...so it is changed hence by the end of the day we can get through as many as i said earlier....it varies but there are 3 of us working.
happy to take advise if i am doing any of the above incorrectly.
bill
there are more windows than window cleaners so lets help each other

premier window cleaners

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Re: drying scrim
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2004, 11:46:35 am »
we are the same as Ian, only use 2 or 3 scrims at most per day. we must have a great squeege technique so not much detailing required
:P

M4RK

Re: drying scrim
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2004, 07:34:17 pm »
I use only 1 or 2 a day.

At the risk of sounding condescending:

1. If you just slightly miss the edge of the frame when you mop the window you won't have so much to scrim off, if any at all. (The water will carry on the blade so it will still be cleaned, unless its really hacky!)

2. Make sure the rubber blade sticks out of the channel about 5mm either side.

3. Keep a separate 'wet cloth'  for sills. Use a heavy duty floor cloth to wipe them instead of the scrim you are using for the windows. A wet scrim will streak and smear.

Wring the wet cloth out regularly and you'll only need a few of them a day too.

Works for me anyway. ;)

You'll save loads of time nipping back to the van to change scrims every 5mins.
Unless you carry 40 minature scrims in your pouch?


WavieDavie

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Re: drying scrim
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2004, 09:10:25 pm »
Technology and modern methods come to the rescue . . .

Search for "dog-earing" to find out how to get a crisp edge from blading
Use GG3 or 4 to minimise suds which need to be wiped up
When using GG3/4 just wipe the sill with your applicator
Use Microfibre cloths instead of scrim - one wipe does it.

Problem solved!

Just to stoke the flames . . . When I used scrim, I only got through 2 a day at most. Scrims are for wiping your hands after wringing out your applicator - the more you put on, the more you have to wipe up

"Stands to reason, dunnit" said Alf Garnett

A wee tip on Microfibre cloths - I use a blue one for sills + frames and a green one for glass. That way you know one is always ready for polishing and you shouldn't get them mixed up. Easy eh?
You're a Scottish window-cleaner? Licensed or not, get yourself along to www.slwcn.org right now !

Davie Park
Dalzell Window Cleaning Service - Edinburgh www.windowscleaner.co.uk

Neil

Re: drying scrim
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2004, 09:22:32 pm »
I was tought to never get my dry scrim wet, that way it lasts all day (even in winter most days)
I have a damp scrim for wiping which is put into my bucket on a regular basis to rinse and then wrung out well till its almost dry.

Neil

matt

Re: drying scrim
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2004, 02:34:01 am »
summer days i will use 2 a day

winter i will get 3 houses out of 1 scrim

i allways use the microcloth for the wet scrim, use 1 per 3 days (my weeks work)

Ian_Giles

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Re: drying scrim
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2004, 03:45:08 pm »
Dog earing your squeegee channels works very well, makes a big difference, and even though I have been going for an awful long time, that was something I only heard of on these forums. big up the forums!  8) 8)
Agree too about the specialist window cleaning liquids, use them, get used to them, they will make your life so much easier. Even if you don't change your technique in any way it will make your scrims stay dry longer as there is less muck to mop up.

As others are saying on this thread, keep one scrim for your sills, ring it out as it gets wet. If it gets messy then give it a quick rinse in a spare bucket.

Agree too about not washing with your aplicator right up to the edges of the glass, particularly the top one (unless really mucky of course)

My own technique for cleaning a window is as follows:

Wash with applicator, staying a few mill short of the edges if possible.
Wipe squeegee rubber between thumb and forefinger (if you use your scrim for this, all you do is wet the scrim, and with your finger you are also far more sensitive to any particles on the rubber that may affect your squeegee-ing)
Invert the squeegee against one of the pane sides (usually) and the first movement is up to one of the top corners. (this allows the rubber to take up the water to the top edge)
If your technique is tops then you won't even need to 'edge' the window, all you will need is your wet scrim to mop up the water under the bottom edge of the window pane.

Once you get used to using a full sized scrim you will never go back to little cut offs. Trust me on that one.

I have only every used one microfibre cloth, I found it good but also far to small and it soon got to wet to use. Pretty pricey too. But that is just me, a great many on here swear by them, so they must have plenty going for them for so many to enthuse so about them.

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

geoffreyspecht

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Re: drying scrim
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2004, 04:29:52 am »
i only use one scrim all day your putting to much water on the windows which makes the job harder

rockape

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Re: drying scrim
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2004, 09:25:10 pm »
bloody hell boys get yourself a NO.2 scrim wash it in machine then you only need to wash it out in morns and wring it out give it a flutter and there you go one dry scrim!

Duke

Re: drying scrim
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2004, 10:21:06 pm »
hmm....one dry scrim (full size) will usually last me all day....having said that...spider webs...dont you just love 'em. Get a lot of that all over it and it's definately time to change it. A few of our customers are in the countryside...farm houses/barn conversions and the like....I dunno, if I'm not being attacked by bees, wasps or hornets...then it's prickly bushes, nettles etc......oh how we do laugh... :-/

rockape

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Re: drying scrim
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2004, 10:25:10 pm »
well im asuming you have a bucket of water with you put it in slosh it about then wring it out again, youve got it one clean dry scrim again! i know it sounds crazy but it does work!!

fitmandrw

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Re: drying scrim
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2004, 04:42:36 pm »
been window cleaning for 3 years now and only ever use no more than 4 scims a day( doing 30 house a day), have been taught not to put so much soap on the windows and let the squeege do the work! have had no problems with this method and no complaints.