[gmccleaning]

anybody give advice on fire damage,sitting room fire everthing in the tip wall paper has been took off the walls ,walls are ok its the ceiling covered in black smoke what can i use to clean the ceiling or what do u recomend for the ceiling

all advice very helpful

george

[The Great One]

Hi

i have never done this type of work and would therefore recommend without proper training that you sub it out to a trained professional and ask them to put x amount on top for yourself.

Training for this can be taken out with the BDMA or the National flood school.

Regards

Martin

[scimitar clean]

look at www.restorationexpress.co.uk  under fire restoration or ring them on 0800 3166706 .
You will need dry sponges to clean the celling and then a primer sealer paint.

[martin19842]

hi there

a strong alkaline cleaner, or ultrapac renovate, 

and rags.

you are only cleaning/ neutralising ready for redecoration.

regards

martin

[jasonl]

What about odour removal? possibly needs thermal fogging, sealing prior to redecoration, many H+S implications, this is not a suck it and see type undertaking!

[martin19842]

hi there

any decorator should seal all fire damaged before decorating.

the other alternative is to rip it all out and replace

regards

martin

[scimitar clean]

If you are removeing the celling that has artex on it you will need to test  for Asbestos.
Plus riping  it all out will push the reinstatement cost  up and lower the amount of money you get ?



   

[martin19842]

hi there

yes we did two jobs in december, where asbestos was involved, yippee great stuff to deal with.

but we got the work done

regards

martin

[gmccleaning]

thought it better to leave job alone (not enough experiance), better keeping good name,passed on info i got from yourselfs ,thanks very much

george

[*Madmary's Cleaning Services]

Fire damage odour will naturally fade.
Asbestos - not a clue!

[jasonl]

Smoke odour will not always fade, it is the soot contamination , we are trying to remove as much as the odour, also most buildings expand during the summer months , releasing long forgotten smoke odours from botched clean ups, this type of work is specialist and requires training, equipment, thought and planning to do properly, cost is not generally a consideration, scope is the first consideration, then put your costs to the scope.

[John Kelly]

Smoke odours don't always fade, especially protein odours, in fact they become even worse as the proteins break down. Thats why insurance companies pay us thousands of pounds to deal with them.

[martin19842]

hi there

john, and jason

thank you for your info over the past couple of days, i have my first corroventa kit arriving tomorrw, for an install into a job on saturday morning.

i do love it, when plumbers dont connect those pipes properly.

regards

martin

[*Madmary's Cleaning Services]

That's me told then.

I had a very serious house fire some 20 years ago.  I remember people commenting just a few weeks after re-decoration, that they were surprised by the fact that there was no smell to indicate any fire.

It was a council house and I am sure the cleanup process did not compare to the efforts that are made these days.

No reflection upon the nature of your business intended.

Just a blind comment.

[John Kelly]

Fires vary in intensity and what is burnt has a marked effect on the odour produced. As I mentioned protein fires, that is when some kind of meat has been burnt like a chicken left in an oven or worse when a body has burnt are usually the worst. However probably the worst non protein fire I have dealt with was when a Chestnut timber beam above a wood burning stove off gassed bacause of the heat. This coated everything in the large property with a varnish like subsatnce and stunk to high heaven.