[window pain]

who is pat dudley smith? does anyone know? is he genuine.

[macmac]

think he was a backing singer with johnny diesel & the injectors?

[Chris Cottrell]

or was it billy no mates and the loaners

[Sarah Sarill]

Why do you ask WP ?

Sarah

[telboy]

He is a guy who sells W/C rounds

Look in your local paper you may see an ad looking for window cleaners £700 to £800 per week no experience needed.
He put some threads on this forum advertising work all over London/Greater London
I phoned him up and he sent me some info on how he works

You can buy as much work as you want If you want £1000 pounds worth of work it will cost you £4000 if you want £4000 of work it will cost £16000 all up front.

Seemed a bit steep to me so I declined the offer.

He comes across as a pressure salesman asking if you are a property owner if so  you could take out a loan to buy the rounds.

He did say if you lost any work they would replace it.

Telboy

[window pain]

Why do you ask WP ?

Sarah

the reason i want to know is if he is a genuine window cleaner, i might be interested. but if he is a salesman who goes around selling lists of people who have expressed an interest in having their windows cleaned i don't think iwould bother.

[telboy]

Window Pain
He does say you can go out with his window cleaners to see how they work I think its all domestic he didn't mention any commercial

Telboy

[Terry_Burrows]

makes me finks if its all good why sell it : riskay

[WavieDavie]

Maybe he finds it easier getting salesmen on commission, than good window cleaners to do the work . . .

[stuart howes]

hi all yes this man is OK
i got a load of work off him some years ago
he life just out side london
yes it is a bit steep in the price but if you lose any work or it is just plane poo he will replace all
what happen is he was a window cleaner and he said he makes more money from getting work and selling it
 what he does is get an address to clean then he gets his guys to clean the address then if they get paid he keeps the money but if he dont you get the money when you buy the round  one thing he does is say to the new people if you pay for 3 cleans now you get the 4th clean free so it is swings and roundabouts   one other thing is that the guys that clean for him are not the most fussy so on some people they did have a mone about this but i just said i dont work for them and they where ok   i dontknow if he uses wfp or trad i started his work trad then went over wfp    so yes he is ok  hope this helps a little   stu

[andypandy]

YES PAT IS A COMPLETE RIP OFF MERCHANT AND NO HE WILL NOT REPLACE WORK NOR DOES HE HAVE ANY WINDOW CLEANERS,JUST CANVESSERS UP AND DOWN THE COUNTRY WITH A HIGH TURNOVER OF STAFF.

[newbroom]

YES PAT IS A COMPLETE RIP OFF MERCHANT AND NO HE WILL NOT REPLACE WORK NOR DOES HE HAVE ANY WINDOW CLEANERS,JUST CANVESSERS UP AND DOWN THE COUNTRY WITH A HIGH TURNOVER OF STAFF.


Thats a sweeping statement Andypandy especially has you and Pat are in the same game

[Fast 1 *]

I spoke to him on the phone last year.
Hes been going for a while now,and appears to be successful.I  declined because of the very high price..
Not worth it in my opinion
It appears Andy Pandys back on the scene

[Jon T.C.]

Doorknockers will do it x2. £1k worth of work costs £2k

[Shine, glasgow!]

It appears Andy Pandys back on the scene

where does he lerk 

[Moderator David@stives]

It appears Andy Pandys back on the scene

where does he lerk

In a picnic basket with Looby Loo and teddy

[peterharwood]

I bought my round off pat last year the prices for rounds are a bit steep but you buy an income and he does replace any lost work.

and for me it was one way to get on the ladder (no pun intended) 

[Shine, glasgow!]

It appears Andy Pandys back on the scene

where does he lerk

In a picnic basket with Looby Loo and teddy