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Woah........!!!! I am not attacking your personal integrity & honesty, I am just trying to establish fact for the benefit of any who wish to join this debate. Why the hostility ?? Surely the way foward on this issue is through the correct channels at the Federation, not name calling on an email group. My identity is immaterial, I am not hiding behind any cloak, nor am I insecure enough to need any prestige awarded as such, if any don't take me seriously because of this, then so be it. I do respect many of your proposals but we're not going to get anywhere if tempers are raised and it all becomes a personal issue.Why the hostility ??Two reasons:
1/Because I care about the Federation and the way others perceive it. The prospective member in question knows he’s getting the “brush off”. I do, and you do! Its one thing to imagine it going on privately, in the boardroom at Summerfield. Its quite another to see it happening before your face in an email forum.
2/I care about decisions I helped to formulate whilst a member of the Executive Committee. I’m hostile to the fact, and angry that lots of time was spent on them, that they were formally agreed, but that after my removal from the Executive Committee, you brush them under the carpet, come on here and suggest such events never happened!
Surely the way foward on this issue is through the correct channels at the Federation, not name calling on an email group. Aren’t you forgetting that you and your fellow committee members unanimously voted to remove me from having a voice in that “channel”? Be assured, as someone with a proven passion for the industry, and the people in it, if I cant voice myself on one soap box, I will, if I feel there is a need to, use any other that’s available. In any case I want the prospective member to know, and other sympathetic to his situation, that I personally worked hard on behalf of prospective over seas members, whilst with the Fed, and that the indignity he has suffered, in recent times, is the fault of the present Executive Committee, not me.
The Federation in fact is not anything like the “correct channel” for the majority of UK window cleaners and is probably not for the majority of Forum members here. There are an estimated 85,000 window cleaners in the UK, and only around 2,400 Fed members. I’m pretty sure most of that 85,000 would find your idea of the Fed, as the “correct channel” for debate and discussion, as an expression of fanciful Federation arrogance – perhaps even a thinly veiled attempt at censorship!
not name calling on an email group. I didn’t realise I was!
Looking at the postings in this Forum, in chronological order, its clear that for many Forum members the Federation already had a bad name, a poor reputation - long before I made my first contribution. Is it not the Federation’s unwillingness, on the Forum, to admit faults and failings, the thing that’s damaging the Fed’s reputation the most?
None of the Fed related threads on this Forum were initiated by me. Any comments I have made, were expressed in response to other postings, either to help substantiate or refute comments made about the Federation by others, or in reply to questions specifically asked of me.
My identity is immaterial,I am not hiding behind any cloak, nor am I insecure enough to need any prestige awarded as such, if any don't take me seriously because of this, then so be it.Your choice, but I am disappointed that, as an appointed Fed officer, you intend to continue a stance which for some detracts from the seriousness of your’ position. Do you not think that if people took you more seriously you might be able to accomplish more?
I never mentioned, “a cloak” or, insecurity! A Freudian slip perhaps!
I do respect many of your proposals That’s very kind of you!
I would love to know which of my proposals you voted to throw me out for, and which ones you would have like to have kept me for. Any chance of a list?
but we're not going to get anywhere if tempers are raised and it all becomes a personal issue.A nice platitude – but sorry – I expect representatives of my trade association to behave, especially one in which I have worked so hard. Readers should note that my comments are indeed very personal!! ! I expect you, Fedman, to go away and put matters right. I expect a committee member to make comments in such a forum as this that are not misleading. At the very least I expect them to check on their facts before they comment, and not choose bringing somebody else into disrepute as the favoured option instead!!.