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Ian Gourlay

  • Posts: 5748
Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2006, 04:49:57 pm »
Dear Mike,

I deleted the offending Word.


I did consider deleting the entire post, but decided not to do so in this instance as I did not like the picture and felt a Could do better was needed as you have pointed out in your second post.


terrymaloy

  • Posts: 229
Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2006, 05:14:46 pm »
Mike, I think you need to brush up on your marketing skills mate ( and manners )
You have to remember after all, that this is just a reminder card...

You have limited space, so you have to get right to the point and keep it simple.
FRONT COVER : Theres ME "staring right at you "...customer automatically recognises the guy who cleaned there carpets last year...NOT a cartoon of a dog...pleeeease.

REVERSE: caption is STRAIGHT TO THE POINT AND SIMPLE...none of this pass to your neighbour rubbish and silly special offers...people just dont buy that !
I've been in their homes remember...they know what they're gonna get for their money.

Regards,
TERRY

ps   I do think the word "crap" was a little harsh. The people who were interested in seeing it actually thought quite the opposite as the posts indicate.

Dave Parry

  • Posts: 411
Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2006, 05:47:44 pm »
I agree with Mike, a cartoon will generate more interest than a simple picture.
Also 7 calls and only £ 400 worth of work is not great, would expect far more than that.
Ian, Grow up crap is not an offensive word.
Bracknell, Berkshire,
Phoenix T/M,
http://www.cleanercarpets.org/index.html

Neil Grainger

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Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2006, 05:55:14 pm »
Easy Dave, you'll get banned.

How are you doing hope you are well.

Phil Marlor

  • Posts: 678
Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2006, 06:00:28 pm »
Also 7 calls and only £ 400 worth of work is not great, would expect far more than that.

What! ???
£400.00 of work 7 calls from 50 postcards.

I would say that was a very good return!

Phil
Stevenage, Herts

LUTON TOWN 3-0 SUNDERLAND

stevegunn

Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2006, 06:08:54 pm »
I would say that is a good return too I had 3000 leaflets put out and not one call

Phil Marlor

  • Posts: 678
Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2006, 06:12:20 pm »

Steve,

Have you had anything from Checkatrade with regards to the Business Cards we won.

Phoned them today, got some girl who new nothing and would ring back but never did.

Are they just hoping we will forget?

Phil
Stevenage, Herts

LUTON TOWN 3-0 SUNDERLAND

stevegunn

Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2006, 06:16:43 pm »
Never heard anything.Just another reason not to join if they arrived in my area  ;D

Phil Marlor

  • Posts: 678
Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2006, 06:17:13 pm »

I agree.

Phil
Stevenage, Herts

LUTON TOWN 3-0 SUNDERLAND

gwrightson

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Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2006, 06:25:41 pm »
I would say the responce of 7 jobs from 50 cards is on the high side :-\  and if this is indeed the the case , or just a one off  ??? 14 % not bad . think I would spend all of my marketing budget on postcards!!!!!!!!!

having said that, I must agree with some of the replies, an average . £58.00 per job , not a very good !!
I would expect a much higher average price. A `number of factors obviously will apply.

What is your minimum charge? What is your price for an average lounge,? h/s/l ?  3 pc. suite etc.?

Geoff.
Ps Yes better postcards are available.
who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha

Mike Halliday

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Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2006, 06:29:04 pm »
Terry, I'll make you a promise,( the same promise I make to everyone) I will never lie to you and i will always be honest, unlike others on this site who will just say what they think you want to hear.

unfortunately this attitude will mean i often will say this that sound harsh, your reminder card could be better, lots people will agree with me but 'don't want to hurt your feeling' so will tell you how nice it looks.

i have no reason to be bad mannered towards you. my comments where meant to be truthful.

I used the word crap, in the same way I told my wife her Chili-con-carne was crap, or the way my son describes my football skills it just a word i use it wasn't meant to be insulting but with hindsight it was probably a crap word to use ;)

Mike
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Phil Marlor

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Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2006, 06:31:24 pm »
having said that, I must agree with some of the replies, an average . £58.00 per job , not a very good !!
I would expect a much higher average price. A `number of factors obviously will apply.

Geoff.
Ps Yes better postcards are available.

It says 7 calls, not 7 jobs!

Phil
Stevenage, Herts

LUTON TOWN 3-0 SUNDERLAND

gwrightson

  • Posts: 3617
Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2006, 06:59:03 pm »
ok been presumtious Phil ;) 
 if different what was the job ratio?
 the reason for assuming it worked out at 7 jobs, well having already worked for the repling custy "hence reminder cards"  the response should be hitting the 100% mark , after all they are not price seekers, they are custys you have already had, they know your work, they know your attitude, they know your prices :-\  .
still presumptious Phil , Yes , but on facts that say 7 jobs :)

 Geoff
who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha

Ian Gourlay

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Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2006, 07:00:04 pm »
Neil

The problem I  have is that Dave and Mike are my Heroes

I just thought that word was a bit harsh and tried to tone it down a bit.

At the time I had  not seen the picture as I have to move the post to another section to do this.

terrymaloy

  • Posts: 229
Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2006, 07:22:33 pm »
Let me clarify...those 7 calls were indeed 7 jobs...they didnt just ring for a chat !

The cards I sent out last month have obviously worked...who knows next month they may not. Its always good to get repeat bookings.

Last week  I had 15 jobs... ( Mon - Sat )

7  Previous customers
3  Recomendations
5  New customers from YP, local press etc

This is pretty much the norm.
As you can see, almost 50% are PCs

I must be doing something right !!!!!!!!!

Ian Gourlay

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Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2006, 07:34:21 pm »
If it works for you why change it?

*paul_moss

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Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2006, 07:46:11 pm »
Terry
If it works for you mate dont defend it just carry on with it.

Mike you have too much time on your hands,go and have a look in your shed and see if you have a numatic 17 inch drive plate for me.

NOW  ;D

Please  ;)
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
REMOVED FOR POSTING OFFENSIVE MATERIAL

Mike Halliday

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Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2006, 07:59:43 pm »
paul, let me give you some advice, you might not like it ;)

BUY A NEW ONE FROM NUMATIC!!!!

it'll cost you £50ish

end of search

Mike
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

*paul_moss

  • Posts: 2961
Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2006, 08:11:29 pm »
Mike you know i am more thrifty than thou.
So why spend 50 when I can spend 20.
Now stop being stubborn and go search the shed.

Or else I will come visit you in the early hours and put a bat up your nighty
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
REMOVED FOR POSTING OFFENSIVE MATERIAL

the red carpet

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Re: Postcards seem to be working !
« Reply #39 on: September 11, 2006, 08:27:59 pm »
My opinion,
They look good to me.

And if there working, great.

I agree with mike (not about them being crap) but more effort should bring in a higher return, i belive you should allways tweak advertising myself.

From memory i think my last lot sent out was around 60-70 and i got back i think 5jobs, so not quite as much but still a good return.

£400 from 7jobs is poor, but £400 from the little you invested is good.

Dont know about cartoons myself? think i preffer your approach.

why are you waiting a year to send these out? i do mine about every two months and allways get a good response, every year is to long and your missing out on a lot of work in my opinion.

I would post mine, but i only have it in a word document and dont think i can upload that hear, im gonna try and scan one but i aint got the hang of this scanner yet only had it a couple days.

If anyone can post the word doc, i will send it to them so they can post it.

And lastly, what are you doing with that wand? do you like it? i have the same one and cant stand it i think the results are terrible and its so awkward to use.

Have you tried there scrubba tool? it is so much better