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Plankton

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Pole for employee
« on: Yesterday at 03:54:44 pm »
Not slating the Gardiner slx as it's all I used, however I'm sick of replacing sections 1-3 and most of the clamps regularly on someone's else's pole.
Never him that broke it, doesn't know how it happened etc ::)roll
So how long should an employee expect to get out of an slx 25, how often should shims and levers be replaced.
I wouldn't expect someone to use cheap and heavy equipment and I think the clx would wear down even quicker as this is what I found over ten years ago.

Tam1872

  • Posts: 174
Re: Pole for employee
« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 04:04:22 pm »
For an employee id looking which is the most ridgit, not the most lightest.

An employee isn't looking after it, I'm not saying they will intentionally break it, but when  its not coming out there pocket when it needs replacing then it's unlikely they will care that much.

Scottish Cleaning Service

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Re: Pole for employee
« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 04:44:56 pm »
That's the reason I don't employ too many pitfalls.

AuRavelling79

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Re: Pole for employee
« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 05:26:50 pm »
Not slating the Gardiner slx as it's all I used, however I'm sick of replacing sections 1-3 and most of the clamps regularly on someone's else's pole.
Never him that broke it, doesn't know how it happened etc ::)roll
So how long should an employee expect to get out of an slx 25, how often should shims and levers be replaced.
I wouldn't expect someone to use cheap and heavy equipment and I think the clx would wear down even quicker as this is what I found over ten years ago.

Typically how long does it last before he breaks a section?
It's a game of three halves!

Plankton

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Re: Pole for employee
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 06:06:40 pm »
It's been 3 sections at once when I've discovered it while checking the shims, that's happened twice and other times it's single sections. Clamps cranked up to feck, shims obliterated before you know it.
I'll tape up pole near clamp fit new shims, adjust clamps, explain about this and that....
1st year it was about 6 months with 3 sections shreded, then about 2 issues the next year and the next, and been a couple of single sections this year.

colin bird

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Re: Pole for employee
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 06:56:15 pm »
Three section Harris decorators pole attach brush on top,tape pole hose to pole happy days ,

Splash and dash

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Re: Pole for employee
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 07:01:12 pm »
It's been 3 sections at once when I've discovered it while checking the shims, that's happened twice and other times it's single sections. Clamps cranked up to feck, shims obliterated before you know it.
I'll tape up pole near clamp fit new shims, adjust clamps, explain about this and that....
1st year it was about 6 months with 3 sections shreded, then about 2 issues the next year and the next, and been a couple of single sections this year.


Sounds like abuse of your equipment to me we replace slx every 3 years or so don’t usually replace any part of the pole , I would be having a quite word with the guy and saying any further damage and it will be coming out of his wages

Plankton

  • Posts: 2445
Re: Pole for employee
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 07:26:41 pm »
Splash, I said this before to him that I wasn't putting my hand in my pocket for anymore sections. He coughed up towards it before but just wears everything out so quickly.
I started with an old bendy Bayersan years ago and quickly went to Gardiners so I  appreciate how hard the job is with poor equipment, I'm also reluctant to buy from particular suppliers.
I had a pole for years which had clamp upgrades, lacquer etc as it was my pride and joy  :) but trying to get an average of what others are getting out of them.

Splash and dash

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Re: Pole for employee
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 08:53:11 pm »
Splash, I said this before to him that I wasn't putting my hand in my pocket for anymore sections. He coughed up towards it before but just wears everything out so quickly.
I started with an old bendy Bayersan years ago and quickly went to Gardiners so I  appreciate how hard the job is with poor equipment, I'm also reluctant to buy from particular suppliers.
I had a pole for years which had clamp upgrades, lacquer etc as it was my pride and joy  :) but trying to get an average of what others are getting out of them.


I have 5 guys working for  me and don’t have any issues like this , I certainly wouldn’t tolerate abuse of kit like  that , accidents do happen and that’s fine but someone regularly doing that to poles would either be paying for  it or up the road

Slacky

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Re: Pole for employee
« Reply #9 on: Today at 07:43:15 am »
You’re assuming it’s abuse. If you expect an employee to start paying out of his own pocket for wear and tear you’re gonna be looking for new employees.

How can you expect an employee to pay for equipment? They’re not an employee by definition if that’s what’s happening.

Slacky

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Re: Pole for employee
« Reply #10 on: Today at 07:49:16 am »
and it will be coming out of his wages

That’s theft.

Splash and dash

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Re: Pole for employee
« Reply #11 on: Today at 03:36:21 pm »
You’re assuming it’s abuse. If you expect an employee to start paying out of his own pocket for wear and tear you’re gonna be looking for new employees.

How can you expect an employee to pay for equipment? They’re not an employee by definition if that’s what’s happening.



What’s being described is not normal ware and tare  none of my staff have ever had any issues like this , it’s misuse of equipment could be deliberate or lack of understanding how to use the pole if after  training nothing changes it’s abuse of kit , so either he pays for it or is sacked end of

Slacky

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Re: Pole for employee
« Reply #12 on: Today at 03:53:48 pm »
Like I said, you’re assuming.

dazmond

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Re: Pole for employee
« Reply #13 on: Today at 04:07:13 pm »
I would fully expect an SLX pole used every day should last around 3 or 4 years before needing replacing.

I just use xtreme poles and I replace them approx every 2 years (give or take a few months)
price higher/work harder!

Splash and dash

  • Posts: 462
Re: Pole for employee
« Reply #14 on: Today at 04:11:36 pm »
Like I said, you’re assuming.
Having 5 staff and never having had what this guy is experiencing no it’s not assumption it’s a fact , my staff generally use slx poles and they are replaced after around 3 years of use , yes get an odd issue but it’s rare in that 3 year period that anything is replaced on the pole , get the odd  broken lever and over the years a couple of section one on the pole due to careless closing of stiff windows and that’s it if the poles are lucky they might get the tape replaced once a year , and that’s using theses poles 6-8 hours a day 5 days a week ,so what the op is experiencing is not normal

Slacky

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Re: Pole for employee
« Reply #15 on: Today at 04:20:25 pm »
If a member of staff is abusing or neglecting their equipment that’s one thing; improperly trained is another. Don’t ever expect a member of staff to treat their equipment how you as the owner treats and views that equipment.

As for deducting money from their wages, that’s illegal. That’s worse than neglecting equipment. If that happened to me when I was employed you’d be dragged over the coals.