[Scrimble]

Are there any others on here who are trying to build a large residential window cleaning business?  i.e 1 million pound turnover

[Smudger]

still building - as I feel most businesses should do

but its not 100% windows nor 100% residential

[KS Cleaning]

Gave up expanding at two vans and 3 employees. The margins were getting smaller and the headaches were getting bigger. I sold off work bit by bit and have now worked on my own for the last 6-7 years.

[Splash & dash]

Lee Pryor is the obvious choice

[Ascjim]

It seems like Lee's sense of self-worth is closely tied to his business, which is evident in his posts. This could be a reason why many people didn't connect with him.

[Smudger]

Lee isa great guy - have had loads of conversations outside this forum

When your doing great in a lonely business you sometimes what to blow your own trumpet

With Lee it was a little too often

[Perfect Windows]

Are there any others on here who are trying to build a large residential window cleaning business?  i.e 1 million pound turnover

We're about half way there.

All done through steady growth over 14 years. I haven't knocked myself out by working myself into the grave but in a fortnight we're starting our 7th franchisee.

Lee (already mentioned) went at it a different way, invested heavily, grew very fast indeed and is now a wealthy man.

It can be done. Just ignore the nay-sayers and do it. Have a plan; follow it but be prepared to modify it as circumstances change.

Vin

[Smudger]

Great post vin

Good to see still running well for you

[deeege]

Fair play to the fellas that have got the drive and hunger to build a business of this size.

It took me a while to figure out that it’s not something for me and I scaled down and am perfectly happy working solo. I can’t see that ever changing now either tbh.

[Smudger]

Deege

What age are you and how long window cleaning

[Bin Juice]

karen Prewer at My Window Cleaner has over 20 franchisees and a few more window cleaners working on commission ,
Runs it all from Marbella apparently ,

[windowswashed]

If I had my time over again I would have invested in property and not into growing window cleaning. You put so much effort into window cleaning to grow and maintain it, investing in property has higher rewards for a lot less effort, as a sole trader or small business it's ok but too much hassle growing it unless franchising

[Bungle]

Lee Pryor is the obvious choice

Probably owns a Porsche?

[deeege]

Deege

What age are you and how long window cleaning

Age 43, been going roughly 13 years I think.

*edit….15 years actually 😬

[Smudger]

So you started young enough - you’ve got a good 15 years in you yet so really no need to expand

I only started windows at 44 so I needed expand to protect my future

[Splash & dash]

Lee Pryor is the obvious choice

Probably owns a Porsche?

No BMW last I knew

[Mattymarske]

karen Prewer at My Window Cleaner has over 20 franchisees and a few more window cleaners working on commission ,
Runs it all from Marbella apparently ,

Just googled her and LinkedIn she's been MD 28 years. Wonder if they were Trad back them and how soon they converted to WFP. Good going would love to be in Spain af

[Mattymarske]

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/ynk6_Wv4vR6FqP4xx0ly7LjXf7o/appointments

Plenty of eggs in her basket roof cleaner, outdoor cleaning pro and now AI!

Wonder how many Porsche's she has? 🤔😅

[Smudger]

my window cleaner just started adverts on here..

apparently I'm out of territory 

[DJW]

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/ynk6_Wv4vR6FqP4xx0ly7LjXf7o/appointments

Plenty of eggs in her basket roof cleaner, outdoor cleaning pro and now AI!

Wonder how many Porsche's she has? 🤔😅

Probably several houses too.

[zesty]

I like idea of franchising.

Those that have done it, how much do you give the franchisee to start with ?

[dazmond]

So you started young enough - you’ve got a good 15 years in you yet so really no need to expand

I only started windows at 44 so I needed expand to protect my future

15 years?he's only 43!he's got at least 25 years til 68 until he gets his state pension and then he might carry on working for another few years.

The guy I used to work for in 1992 only retired last year at 75 and only because he was forced to.another guy I know is still working at 80(he started up as a window cleaner aged 18)

62 years window cleaning!he says he's no plans to fully retire yet.👍

[DJW]

What a plonker.
He’s obviously the worlds most unsuccessful businessman.

[Smudger]

So you started young enough - you’ve got a good 15 years in you yet so really no need to expand

I only started windows at 44 so I needed expand to protect my future

15 years?he's only 43!he's got at least 25 years til 68 until he gets his state pension and then he might carry on working for another few years.

The guy I used to work for in 1992 only retired last year at 75 and only because he was forced to.another guy I know is still working at 80(he started up as a window cleaner aged 18)

62 years window cleaning!he says he's no plans to fully retire yet.👍

What a cr@p life shining glass at that age (IMO)
I’m sure deege could carry on longer than I posted - however from mid 50’s health issues have to be a factor - he may wish to ‘retire’ at 55 and go enjoy himself - whichever with that amount of years I would guess he’s in a good financial position

[Bungle]

Lee Pryor is the obvious choice

Probably owns a Porsche?

No BMW last I knew

Got any photos? 😜

[Perfect Windows]

I like idea of franchising.

Those that have done it, how much do you give the franchisee to start with ?

We've started people at zero and at about £10k annual. It's easy to forget how hard the work is at the start, which might be why the zero start people seemed content - we'd give them work as fast as they could cover it.

Vin

[Slacky]

So you started young enough - you’ve got a good 15 years in you yet so really no need to expand

I only started windows at 44 so I needed expand to protect my future

15 years?he's only 43!he's got at least 25 years til 68 until he gets his state pension and then he might carry on working for another few years.

The guy I used to work for in 1992 only retired last year at 75 and only because he was forced to.another guy I know is still working at 80(he started up as a window cleaner aged 18)

62 years window cleaning!he says he's no plans to fully retire yet.👍

Daz some people don’t want to work til they’re that age. You will out of necessity, some people plan a different course of events for that stage of their lives.

I’ve got 2 - 3 months left to do then I’m outta here. I’ve sold my house, I’ve sold my business.

In three months I’m going away for a month to the sun then off to British Columbia to be with Laura. We’ll both have something to occupy us for three days a week each. Rest of the time we’ll be living a comfortable life in a great environment and travelling the world. Figi first probably for Christmas then we’ll see what 2025 brings.   

[deeege]

So you started young enough - you’ve got a good 15 years in you yet so really no need to expand

I only started windows at 44 so I needed expand to protect my future

15 years?he's only 43!he's got at least 25 years til 68 until he gets his state pension and then he might carry on working for another few years.

The guy I used to work for in 1992 only retired last year at 75 and only because he was forced to.another guy I know is still working at 80(he started up as a window cleaner aged 18)

62 years window cleaning!he says he's no plans to fully retire yet.👍

What a cr@p life shining glass at that age (IMO)
I’m sure deege could carry on longer than I posted - however from mid 50’s health issues have to be a factor - he may wish to ‘retire’ at 55 and go enjoy himself - whichever with that amount of years I would guess he’s in a good financial position

I really hope I’m fit enough to work at 75 but I also hope that I won’t have to by then. What a thoroughly miserable existence to have to get up and go to work past 65.

[Jay Le Huray]

Well I'm still doing part time hours @ almost 71, with me it's not about the money it's because I enjoy my work and the thought of retirement scares the sh*t out of me.

I have to have a reason to get up in the mornings, it's nice knowing you have cash in your back pocket and not worrying too much about paying the bills.

My wife who is now 65 also comes with me about 3 days a week and does a little bit.

[DJW]

Sad you get to 65 and can’t think of anything better to fill your day to be honest.
I guess we are all different.

[dazmond]

So you started young enough - you’ve got a good 15 years in you yet so really no need to expand

I only started windows at 44 so I needed expand to protect my future

15 years?he's only 43!he's got at least 25 years til 68 until he gets his state pension and then he might carry on working for another few years.

The guy I used to work for in 1992 only retired last year at 75 and only because he was forced to.another guy I know is still working at 80(he started up as a window cleaner aged 18)

62 years window cleaning!he says he's no plans to fully retire yet.👍

What a cr@p life shining glass at that age (IMO)
I’m sure deege could carry on longer than I posted - however from mid 50’s health issues have to be a factor - he may wish to ‘retire’ at 55 and go enjoy himself - whichever with that amount of years I would guess he’s in a good financial position

What makes me laugh is that you seem to think you can't enjoy yourself until you retire!🤣🤣🤣...

I hope I can keep working for at least another 20 years(I'm 52 now) but hopefully I want to still be working at 80 too if I'm in good health.👍

[dazmond]

So you started young enough - you’ve got a good 15 years in you yet so really no need to expand

I only started windows at 44 so I needed expand to protect my future

15 years?he's only 43!he's got at least 25 years til 68 until he gets his state pension and then he might carry on working for another few years.

The guy I used to work for in 1992 only retired last year at 75 and only because he was forced to.another guy I know is still working at 80(he started up as a window cleaner aged 18)

62 years window cleaning!he says he's no plans to fully retire yet.👍

Daz some people don’t want to work til they’re that age. You will out of necessity, some people plan a different course of events for that stage of their lives.

I’ve got 2 - 3 months left to do then I’m outta here. I’ve sold my house, I’ve sold my business.

In three months I’m going away for a month to the sun then off to British Columbia to be with Laura. We’ll both have something to occupy us for three days a week each. Rest of the time we’ll be living a comfortable life in a great environment and travelling the world. Figi first probably for Christmas then we’ll see what 2025 brings.

I don't blame you mate.you ve aged terribly over the last few years.i was shocked at how old you look these days....I thought you were in your 70s already!😦😦

[dazmond]

So you started young enough - you’ve got a good 15 years in you yet so really no need to expand

I only started windows at 44 so I needed expand to protect my future

15 years?he's only 43!he's got at least 25 years til 68 until he gets his state pension and then he might carry on working for another few years.

The guy I used to work for in 1992 only retired last year at 75 and only because he was forced to.another guy I know is still working at 80(he started up as a window cleaner aged 18)

62 years window cleaning!he says he's no plans to fully retire yet.👍

What a cr@p life shining glass at that age (IMO)
I’m sure deege could carry on longer than I posted - however from mid 50’s health issues have to be a factor - he may wish to ‘retire’ at 55 and go enjoy himself - whichever with that amount of years I would guess he’s in a good financial position

I really hope I’m fit enough to work at 75 but I also hope that I won’t have to by then. What a thoroughly miserable existence to have to get up and go to work past 65.

Why is it 'miserable'?I don't get this sort of attitude?

My dad still worked at 74 before he died of lung cancer.he was very happy.

My missus dad still works and he's 82,in fact I don't know many of my dad's friends and my uncles who didn't work well past retirement age in some capacity

[dazmond]

Well I'm still doing part time hours @ almost 71, with me it's not about the money it's because I enjoy my work and the thought of retirement scares the sh*t out of me.

I have to have a reason to get up in the mornings, it's nice knowing you have cash in your back pocket and not worrying too much about paying the bills.

My wife who is now 65 also comes with me about 3 days a week and does a little bit.

Well done mate.if your happy and healthy enough why not?

I don't think it's sad or miserable to get off your backside and go to work.

Work is an honorable thing to do and I bet you still have plenty of time for each other,holidays and relaxing,etc.👍

[Slacky]

So you started young enough - you’ve got a good 15 years in you yet so really no need to expand

I only started windows at 44 so I needed expand to protect my future

15 years?he's only 43!he's got at least 25 years til 68 until he gets his state pension and then he might carry on working for another few years.

The guy I used to work for in 1992 only retired last year at 75 and only because he was forced to.another guy I know is still working at 80(he started up as a window cleaner aged 18)

62 years window cleaning!he says he's no plans to fully retire yet.👍

Daz some people don’t want to work til they’re that age. You will out of necessity, some people plan a different course of events for that stage of their lives.

I’ve got 2 - 3 months left to do then I’m outta here. I’ve sold my house, I’ve sold my business.

In three months I’m going away for a month to the sun then off to British Columbia to be with Laura. We’ll both have something to occupy us for three days a week each. Rest of the time we’ll be living a comfortable life in a great environment and travelling the world. Figi first probably for Christmas then we’ll see what 2025 brings.

I don't blame you mate.you ve aged terribly over the last few years.i was shocked at how old you look these days....I thought you were in your 70s already!😦😦

lol 

That's funny!



Looks like I need to buy some more baked beans I guess

[deeege]

Fair play if you genuinely want to work til you drop.

Theres a big difference in ‘needing’ to work and ‘wanting’ to work though. Not investing for your future so you ‘need’ to work a physical job at 70+ is a dangerous path. Theres a good chance you’ll end up unable to work and completely skint due to ill health.

Would be interesting to know what percentage of the population would actually be able bodied enough to do our job past 70.

[Slacky]

5%?

Probably less than that.

[DJW]

I don’t think there are many sixty year olds who aren’t on medication for some ailment or another then there are those who suffer with arthritis and dodgy joints. I don’t think standing around all day in freezing rain is the most pleasant way to end your days, even with three gortex jackets on.

[dd]

So you started young enough - you’ve got a good 15 years in you yet so really no need to expand

I only started windows at 44 so I needed expand to protect my future

15 years?he's only 43!he's got at least 25 years til 68 until he gets his state pension and then he might carry on working for another few years.

The guy I used to work for in 1992 only retired last year at 75 and only because he was forced to.another guy I know is still working at 80(he started up as a window cleaner aged 18)

62 years window cleaning!he says he's no plans to fully retire yet.👍

Daz some people don’t want to work til they’re that age. You will out of necessity, some people plan a different course of events for that stage of their lives.

I’ve got 2 - 3 months left to do then I’m outta here. I’ve sold my house, I’ve sold my business.

In three months I’m going away for a month to the sun then off to British Columbia to be with Laura. We’ll both have something to occupy us for three days a week each. Rest of the time we’ll be living a comfortable life in a great environment and travelling the world. Figi first probably for Christmas then we’ll see what 2025 brings.

I don't blame you mate.you ve aged terribly over the last few years.i was shocked at how old you look these days....I thought you were in your 70s already!😦😦

lol 

That's funny!



Looks like I need to buy some more baked beans I guess

At least Laura looks nice.

[dazmond]

I don’t think there are many sixty year olds who aren’t on medication for some ailment or another then there are those who suffer with arthritis and dodgy joints. I don’t think standing around all day in freezing rain is the most pleasant way to end your days, even with three gortex jackets on.

Half the lads I used to hang about with in my youth are dead,8 of them actually.they all died in their late 30s,early 40s....a fair few others are on disability benefits now as they are either seriously obese or suffering from other health problems....

And heres me still weight training in the gym 3 times a week!🤣🤣🤣

[dazmond]

I don’t think there are many sixty year olds who aren’t on medication for some ailment or another then there are those who suffer with arthritis and dodgy joints. I don’t think standing around all day in freezing rain is the most pleasant way to end your days, even with three gortex jackets on.

Lots of younger people round here are so fat they can't walk properly and already have joint issues and rely on mobility scooters and their not even 40 years old yet!

[zesty]

What was the catalyst for change Daz? You could easily be in your mates shoes.

I give you great credit for choosing a better life.

I was going no where at 24, then quite literally made a decision to sort myself out.

[Bungle]

So you started young enough - you’ve got a good 15 years in you yet so really no need to expand

I only started windows at 44 so I needed expand to protect my future

15 years?he's only 43!he's got at least 25 years til 68 until he gets his state pension and then he might carry on working for another few years.

The guy I used to work for in 1992 only retired last year at 75 and only because he was forced to.another guy I know is still working at 80(he started up as a window cleaner aged 18)

62 years window cleaning!he says he's no plans to fully retire yet.👍

Daz some people don’t want to work til they’re that age. You will out of necessity, some people plan a different course of events for that stage of their lives.

I’ve got 2 - 3 months left to do then I’m outta here. I’ve sold my house, I’ve sold my business.

In three months I’m going away for a month to the sun then off to British Columbia to be with Laura. We’ll both have something to occupy us for three days a week each. Rest of the time we’ll be living a comfortable life in a great environment and travelling the world. Figi first probably for Christmas then we’ll see what 2025 brings.

I don't blame you mate.you ve aged terribly over the last few years.i was shocked at how old you look these days....I thought you were in your 70s already!😦😦

lol 

That's funny!



Looks like I need to buy some more baked beans I guess

Dazmond has got a point TBF 

[Slacky]

   

Anyone’s gonna look rough stood next to Laura 😀

[dazmond]

What was the catalyst for change Daz? You could easily be in your mates shoes.

I give you great credit for choosing a better life.

I was going no where at 24, then quite literally made a decision to sort myself out.

I got to 31 years of age and I was sick of the rocknroll lifestyle(I'd been living it for 15 years)and sat on my mates sofa at 5am,surrounded by cocaine,bottles of brandy,lager and champagne,sheets of LSD,amphetamines,cannabis and overflowing ashtrays......

Started my long journey to recovery and been clean and sober most of the last 21 years with a few relapses here and there....

[dazmond]

still building - as I feel most businesses should do

but its not 100% windows nor 100% residential

I bumped into the boss of OCS many years ago while I was  posting leaflets for my missus shop in a very posh area.we had a chat and found out he was a drummer too!we were not that different apart from the money and the gated mansion he lived in!

Small acorns and all that.....he didn't make his money solely cleaning windows though,OCS do industrial kitchen cleaning and lots of other types of specialist cleaning.thats where the real money is.

[robert mitchell]

So you started young enough - you’ve got a good 15 years in you yet so really no need to expand

I only started windows at 44 so I needed expand to protect my future

15 years?he's only 43!he's got at least 25 years til 68 until he gets his state pension and then he might carry on working for another few years.

The guy I used to work for in 1992 only retired last year at 75 and only because he was forced to.another guy I know is still working at 80(he started up as a window cleaner aged 18)

62 years window cleaning!he says he's no plans to fully retire yet.👍

Daz some people don’t want to work til they’re that age. You will out of necessity, some people plan a different course of events for that stage of their lives.

I’ve got 2 - 3 months left to do then I’m outta here. I’ve sold my house, I’ve sold my business.

In three months I’m going away for a month to the sun then off to British Columbia to be with Laura. We’ll both have something to occupy us for three days a week each. Rest of the time we’ll be living a comfortable life in a great environment and travelling the world. Figi first probably for Christmas then we’ll see what 2025 brings.

I don't blame you mate.you ve aged terribly over the last few years.i was shocked at how old you look these days....I thought you were in your 70s already!😦😦

lol 

That's funny!



Looks like I need to buy some more baked beans I guess

Def punching above your weight there!

[Slacky]

I know! 

[Slacky]

Here we both are on Netanya beach in Israel, in 1987.

[DJW]

Unusual hand shake 

[Jay Le Huray]

Well I'm still doing part time hours @ almost 71, with me it's not about the money it's because I enjoy my work and the thought of retirement scares the sh*t out of me.

I have to have a reason to get up in the mornings, it's nice knowing you have cash in your back pocket and not worrying too much about paying the bills.

My wife who is now 65 also comes with me about 3 days a week and does a little bit.

Well done mate.if your happy and healthy enough why not?

I don't think it's sad or miserable to get off your backside and go to work.

Work is an honorable thing to do and I bet you still have plenty of time for each other,holidays and relaxing,etc.👍

Thanks Daz
yes we do, we spend a lot of time together (but we do get on well) we enjoy cruising and eating out as we can afford to.

[AuRavelling79]

So you started young enough - you’ve got a good 15 years in you yet so really no need to expand

I only started windows at 44 so I needed expand to protect my future

15 years?he's only 43!he's got at least 25 years til 68 until he gets his state pension and then he might carry on working for another few years.

The guy I used to work for in 1992 only retired last year at 75 and only because he was forced to.another guy I know is still working at 80(he started up as a window cleaner aged 18)

62 years window cleaning!he says he's no plans to fully retire yet.👍

Daz some people don’t want to work til they’re that age. You will out of necessity, some people plan a different course of events for that stage of their lives.

I’ve got 2 - 3 months left to do then I’m outta here. I’ve sold my house, I’ve sold my business.

In three months I’m going away for a month to the sun then off to British Columbia to be with Laura. We’ll both have something to occupy us for three days a week each. Rest of the time we’ll be living a comfortable life in a great environment and travelling the world. Figi first probably for Christmas then we’ll see what 2025 brings.

I don't blame you mate.you ve aged terribly over the last few years.i was shocked at how old you look these days....I thought you were in your 70s already!😦😦

lol 

That's funny!



Looks like I need to buy some more baked beans I guess

Is that Laura's dad with her?

 

Just kidding Slacks! Have a great life in Canada.

Laura looks lovely. 😍

[AuRavelling79]

Well I'm 64 and work about 20 hours a week on the glass.

Over the last year I have crystallised a levelling off of work and price increase regime on my round.

Barring any health issues my plan is to not take on any new work and to let old work drop without replacing.

(Just last week I lost two £40 houses due to customers downsizing and moving out of my area and am happy to have done so)

I reckon I have kept the same turnover for 10% less work over the last year and I plan to do the same this coming financial year.

I get my state pension in summer of 2025 and at that point my average of three six hour days I plan to drop to two.

Then in 2026/7 actively looking to move house and downsize a bit and either stop completely or if health similar to now maybe keep a cream easy five/six hour day (£300 ish) a week for 4 days a month.

I think it's good exercise - colouring in windows out of choice!

Life and health may dictate otherwise and with a small private pension and a couple of modest properties and state pension I can get by.

Mrs Gold is three years younger and falls into the 67 pension band so it's another 5 years before that kicks in but she will have a small private pension from working in a school in years gone by.

So 69/70 will be my planned complete finish for window cleaning. Hope my van makes another six years!

[deeege]

Sounds like a sensible retirement plan Gold, I’m planning something similar but hopefully a few years earlier. Can see the benefit in staying active in working by choice (and not necessity).

[Stoots]

I really should make a plan for retirement, im 42 and have no pension or investments or any idea of a retirement plan...

I know i could work till i die or build a business and retire at 50 i just can never decide what i want and go round in circles instead.

window cleaning is alright a couple of days a week so i would be happy enough with that at 60+ if thats the way its gonna be, to be honest getting to that age would be a huge achievement in itself.

[dd]

If you cannot figure out what to do stoots just put aside one or two days earnings a month and invest it (maybe just something simple that tracks an index).

Going by your posts you may never figure out what to do, but that way you will at least build up some sort of wealth for future years.

[DJW]

Unless you can live on ten grand a year you’ad better do something quick or cross your fingers  for inheritance.

[Stoots]

Unless you can live on ten grand a year you’ad better do something quick or cross your fingers  for inheritance.

probably could live on 10k to be fair assuming no mortgage, wouldnt be much fun though.

[dazmond]

I really should make a plan for retirement, im 42 and have no pension or investments or any idea of a retirement plan...

I know i could work till i die or build a business and retire at 50 i just can never decide what i want and go round in circles instead.

window cleaning is alright a couple of days a week so i would be happy enough with that at 60+ if thats the way its gonna be, to be honest getting to that age would be a huge achievement in itself.

Have you not got a dodgy ticker?I wouldn't worry about living until retirement age mate.just enjoy your life now 👍

[Stoots]

I really should make a plan for retirement, im 42 and have no pension or investments or any idea of a retirement plan...

I know i could work till i die or build a business and retire at 50 i just can never decide what i want and go round in circles instead.

window cleaning is alright a couple of days a week so i would be happy enough with that at 60+ if thats the way its gonna be, to be honest getting to that age would be a huge achievement in itself.

Have you not got a dodgy ticker?I wouldn't worry about living until retirement age mate.just enjoy your life now 👍

Thats one way of looking at it but i could defy the odds and live till im 100...  any one of us could drop dead tomorrow health condition or not.

[Slacky]

Why not just hope you die prematurely and see what happens?

If you die prematurely, well, that’s life…..!

If you don’t die you get to live in poverty with crappy health in a council flat til they find your decomposing corpse.

Winner winner kitchen dinner!

[DJW]

…… and you won’t have to leave anything to your wife and kids.
Be like sponge bob and just think of yourself. !

[dazmond]

Why not just hope you die prematurely and see what happens?

If you die prematurely, well, that’s life…..!

If you don’t die you get to live in poverty with crappy health in a council flat til they find your decomposing corpse.

Winner winner kitchen dinner!

I'm moving into my missus 4 bed house this year and i already work part time,so similar to you except I won't have to endure very harsh cold winters!

I'll be at least 6k a year better off so more holidays and missus nearly finished paying mortgage off now!😃👍

[dazmond]

Unless you can live on ten grand a year you’ad better do something quick or cross your fingers  for inheritance.

You could easily set up a side hustle /another business online that doesn't rely on physical work esp if you have a fairly large nest egg behind you....

Even when I'm on holiday I can't sit around the pool all day,I swim early morning,find a gym for working out and walk.

The last thing you should be doing when you hit middle age is stop working,exercising,lifting weights,walking and keeping active...

Never ever stop!that's when the rot starts!

[NBwcs]

Unless you can live on ten grand a year you’ad better do something quick or cross your fingers  for inheritance.

You could easily set up a side hustle /another business online that doesn't rely on physical work esp if you have a fairly large nest egg behind you....

Even when I'm on holiday I can't sit around the pool all day,I swim early morning,find a gym for working out and walk.

The last thing you should be doing when you hit middle age is stop working,exercising,lifting weights,walking and keeping active...

Never ever stop!that's when the rot starts!

Such as?

[Slacky]

Why not just hope you die prematurely and see what happens?

If you die prematurely, well, that’s life…..!

If you don’t die you get to live in poverty with crappy health in a council flat til they find your decomposing corpse.

Winner winner kitchen dinner!

I'm moving into my missus 4 bed house this year and i already work part time,so similar to you except I won't have to endure very harsh cold winters!

I'll be at least 6k a year better off so more holidays and missus nearly finished paying mortgage off now!😃👍

What has 4 bedrooms got to do with it? You’ll only need one won’t you?

Who going to have to endure harsh cold winters? 

That’s the North West territories and the Interior.

I’ll be on the Pacific coast. Their weather is nothing like that. It’s called The Sunshine Coast, where I’m going, for good reason.   

I don’t think we’ll have similar lives Daz, not at all mate 

[dazmond]

Unless you can live on ten grand a year you’ad better do something quick or cross your fingers  for inheritance.

You could easily set up a side hustle /another business online that doesn't rely on physical work esp if you have a fairly large nest egg behind you....

Even when I'm on holiday I can't sit around the pool all day,I swim early morning,find a gym for working out and walk.

The last thing you should be doing when you hit middle age is stop working,exercising,lifting weights,walking and keeping active...

Never ever stop!that's when the rot starts!

Such as?

Buying and selling stuff

Making personalised gifts(my stepdaughter has got a good side hustle going).

[simon w]

Unless you can live on ten grand a year you’ad better do something quick or cross your fingers  for inheritance.

You could easily set up a side hustle /another business online that doesn't rely on physical work esp if you have a fairly large nest egg behind you....

Even when I'm on holiday I can't sit around the pool all day,I swim early morning,find a gym for working out and walk.

The last thing you should be doing when you hit middle age is stop working,exercising,lifting weights,walking and keeping active...

Never ever stop!that's when the rot starts!

Such as?

Buying and selling stuff

Making personalised gifts(my stepdaughter has got a good side hustle going).

Personalised drum sticks? 🤔

[DJW]

Stepdaughter? You got married then Dazmond.
Congratulations!

[Gringo]

Yes congrats Daz , does she refer to you as Step Dad now then??

[Drake]

Yes congrats Daz , does she refer to you as Step Dad now then??

2 much 😆 🤣

[Bungle]

Yes congrats Daz , does she refer to you as Step Dad now then??

No. The lodger.

[DJW]

I guess “what’s mine is yours” good of Daz to give up that nest egg.

[deeege]

Step Dazmondo the Great.

[KS Cleaning]

Yes congrats Daz , does she refer to you as Step Dad now then??

No. The lodger.

🤣🤣

[dazmond]

Why not just hope you die prematurely and see what happens?

If you die prematurely, well, that’s life…..!

If you don’t die you get to live in poverty with crappy health in a council flat til they find your decomposing corpse.

Winner winner kitchen dinner!

I'm moving into my missus 4 bed house this year and i already work part time,so similar to you except I won't have to endure very harsh cold winters!

I'll be at least 6k a year better off so more holidays and missus nearly finished paying mortgage off now!😃👍

What has 4 bedrooms got to do with it? You’ll only need one won’t you?

Who going to have to endure harsh cold winters? 

That’s the North West territories and the Interior.

I’ll be on the Pacific coast. Their weather is nothing like that. It’s called The Sunshine Coast, where I’m going, for good reason.   

I don’t think we’ll have similar lives Daz, not at all mate 

I've actually got 2 of the bedrooms.one is my own bedroom complete with little office and the other is the ground floor extension room which is my dedicated drum/music room!👍😎

[dazmond]

I guess “what’s mine is yours” good of Daz to give up that nest egg.

Separate bank accounts....never ever have a joint bank account!!!👍

[Slacky]

So when did you get married?

Congratulations!

[Slacky]

Yes congrats Daz , does she refer to you as Step Dad now then??

Don't say that, that's what happens on Pornhub 

[Bungle]

I guess “what’s mine is yours” good of Daz to give up that nest egg.

Separate bank accounts....never ever have a joint bank account!!!👍

Any prenuptials been signed? What about your will? Who gets the T-Roc, drum kit and £40k stash?

[Slacky]

Why not just hope you die prematurely and see what happens?

If you die prematurely, well, that’s life…..!

If you don’t die you get to live in poverty with crappy health in a council flat til they find your decomposing corpse.

Winner winner kitchen dinner!

I'm moving into my missus 4 bed house this year and i already work part time,so similar to you except I won't have to endure very harsh cold winters!

I'll be at least 6k a year better off so more holidays and missus nearly finished paying mortgage off now!😃👍

What has 4 bedrooms got to do with it? You’ll only need one won’t you?

Who going to have to endure harsh cold winters? 

That’s the North West territories and the Interior.

I’ll be on the Pacific coast. Their weather is nothing like that. It’s called The Sunshine Coast, where I’m going, for good reason.   

I don’t think we’ll have similar lives Daz, not at all mate 

I've actually got 2 of the bedrooms.one is my own bedroom complete with little office and the other is the ground floor extension room which is my dedicated drum/music room!👍😎

Your own bedroom?  And you've just got married?

Wow, are you sure you're not on Pornhub? 

We will have very dissimilar lives.

Good luck though...

[dazmond]

I guess “what’s mine is yours” good of Daz to give up that nest egg.

Separate bank accounts....never ever have a joint bank account!!!👍

Any prenuptials been signed? What about your will? Who gets the T-Roc, drum kit and £40k stash?

I'm not married mate but I'll get my will sorted when I move in.

[dazmond]

Why not just hope you die prematurely and see what happens?

If you die prematurely, well, that’s life…..!

If you don’t die you get to live in poverty with crappy health in a council flat til they find your decomposing corpse.

Winner winner kitchen dinner!

I'm moving into my missus 4 bed house this year and i already work part time,so similar to you except I won't have to endure very harsh cold winters!

I'll be at least 6k a year better off so more holidays and missus nearly finished paying mortgage off now!😃👍

What has 4 bedrooms got to do with it? You’ll only need one won’t you?

Who going to have to endure harsh cold winters? 

That’s the North West territories and the Interior.

I’ll be on the Pacific coast. Their weather is nothing like that. It’s called The Sunshine Coast, where I’m going, for good reason.   

I don’t think we’ll have similar lives Daz, not at all mate 

I've actually got 2 of the bedrooms.one is my own bedroom complete with little office and the other is the ground floor extension room which is my dedicated drum/music room!👍😎

Your own bedroom?  And you've just got married?

Wow, are you sure you're not on Pornhub? 

We will have very dissimilar lives.

Good luck though...

I prefer to sleep alone mate.although I won't be alone.i reckon the dog will sleep in my room!🤣

[deeege]

Why not just hope you die prematurely and see what happens?

If you die prematurely, well, that’s life…..!

If you don’t die you get to live in poverty with crappy health in a council flat til they find your decomposing corpse.

Winner winner kitchen dinner!

I'm moving into my missus 4 bed house this year and i already work part time,so similar to you except I won't have to endure very harsh cold winters!

I'll be at least 6k a year better off so more holidays and missus nearly finished paying mortgage off now!😃👍

What has 4 bedrooms got to do with it? You’ll only need one won’t you?

Who going to have to endure harsh cold winters? 

That’s the North West territories and the Interior.

I’ll be on the Pacific coast. Their weather is nothing like that. It’s called The Sunshine Coast, where I’m going, for good reason.   

I don’t think we’ll have similar lives Daz, not at all mate 

I've actually got 2 of the bedrooms.one is my own bedroom complete with little office and the other is the ground floor extension room which is my dedicated drum/music room!👍😎

Your own bedroom?  And you've just got married?

Wow, are you sure you're not on Pornhub? 

We will have very dissimilar lives.

Good luck though...

I prefer to sleep alone mate.although I won't be alone.i reckon the dog will sleep in my room!🤣

Sublet your bed to the dog! 🤑

[Slacky]

There's a joke in that last post from Daz. Who's gonna say it? 

[dazmond]

There's a joke in that last post from Daz. Who's gonna say it? 

Do you and your missus sleep in different bedrooms?

I snore sometimes and she grinds her teeth.its annoying!

Best off in separate bedrooms for better quality sleep which is very important as we age!😄

[Don Kee]

There's a joke in that last post from Daz. Who's gonna say it? 

 

[Slacky]

There's a joke in that last post from Daz. Who's gonna say it? 

Do you and your missus sleep in different bedrooms?

I snore sometimes and she grinds her teeth.its annoying!

Best off in separate bedrooms for better quality sleep which is very important as we age!😄

Maybe it’s just me, but sleeping in separate bedrooms makes her a companion not a wife/soul-mate.

[jo5hm4n]

You would be surprised how many window cleaning companies are actually doing very well.  With our lead generation services we speak and work with lots of window cleaners.  I work with at least 3 window cleaners that are doing £1 mill+ a year.  2 of which have 18 vans on the road, plus plenty of companies we work with have 5+ vans and are rapidly expanding year on year.  So lots doing 400-500k+ a year.

then you have franchises.  I know of at least 4 franchises right now in the UK for window cleaning that are doing well over £1 mill a year, one that has 30+ vans on the road.  Franchises seem to be expanding at an alarming rate.  We work with a few franchise companies, but most of them are trying to do everything in house now right across the board.

Things are definitely ramping up in the window cleaning world i would say.

[dazmond]

You would be surprised how many window cleaning companies are actually doing very well.  With our lead generation services we speak and work with lots of window cleaners.  I work with at least 3 window cleaners that are doing £1 mill+ a year.  2 of which have 18 vans on the road, plus plenty of companies we work with have 5+ vans and are rapidly expanding year on year.  So lots doing 400-500k+ a year.

then you have franchises.  I know of at least 4 franchises right now in the UK for window cleaning that are doing well over £1 mill a year, one that has 30+ vans on the road.  Franchises seem to be expanding at an alarming rate.  We work with a few franchise companies, but most of them are trying to do everything in house now right across the board.

Things are definitely ramping up in the window cleaning world i would say.

Defo

I never used to see window cleaning franchises around but there's loads of them these days.it certainly is boom time.

We are always a few years behind America.i think Fish window cleaning is one of the biggest window cleaning franchises in the world!

[KS Cleaning]

There's a joke in that last post from Daz. Who's gonna say it? 

Do you and your missus sleep in different bedrooms?

I snore sometimes and she grinds her teeth.its annoying!

Best off in separate bedrooms for better quality sleep which is very important as we age!😄

Tooooooo much info 🤣🤣

[KS Cleaning]

Why not just hope you die prematurely and see what happens?

If you die prematurely, well, that’s life…..!

If you don’t die you get to live in poverty with crappy health in a council flat til they find your decomposing corpse.

Winner winner kitchen dinner!

I'm moving into my missus 4 bed house this year and i already work part time,so similar to you except I won't have to endure very harsh cold winters!

I'll be at least 6k a year better off so more holidays and missus nearly finished paying mortgage off now!😃👍

What has 4 bedrooms got to do with it? You’ll only need one won’t you?

Who going to have to endure harsh cold winters? 

That’s the North West territories and the Interior.

I’ll be on the Pacific coast. Their weather is nothing like that. It’s called The Sunshine Coast, where I’m going, for good reason.   

I don’t think we’ll have similar lives Daz, not at all mate 

I've actually got 2 of the bedrooms.one is my own bedroom complete with little office and the other is the ground floor extension room which is my dedicated drum/music room!👍😎

You need to grow a pair mate and give her an ultimatum……I NEED THAT THIRD BEDROOM TO STORE MY GORETEX JACKETS AND BAKED BEANS 😉

[Don Kee]

You need to grow a pair mate and give her an ultimatum……I NEED THAT THIRD BEDROOM TO STORE MY GORETEX JACKETS AND BAKED BEANS 😉

Are the baked beans personalised?

[DJW]

Personalised holiday bookings I expect.
Beansinthebath.com

[Bungle]

There's a joke in that last post from Daz. Who's gonna say it? 

Do you and your missus sleep in different bedrooms?

I snore sometimes and she grinds her teeth.its annoying!

Best off in separate bedrooms for better quality sleep which is very important as we age!😄

Unbelievable Jeff.

[Stoots]

I'm a separate bedroom man myself. Never was up until a few years ago but it's much better. Getting married this year so it's not doing any harm, works for us.  To be fair r lass works nights 4 days a week so it doesn't make a right lot of difference.

[dazmond]

I'm a separate bedroom man myself. Never was up until a few years ago but it's much better. Getting married this year so it's not doing any harm, works for us.  To be fair r lass works nights 4 days a week so it doesn't make a right lot of difference.

It is much better.im up earlier than my missus.i tend to get up at 7am most days.the dog goes crazy as soon as I wake up which then wakes my missus up! .she normally gets up at 8 or 9am,sometimes later at weekends.

Also I'm 6ft 2in and 118kg.i prefer the bed to myself.also she likes really soft mattresses.i hate them!mines a lot firmer/better.hers is like a trampoline!

I have to put up with it for now until her daughter moves out.👍

[dazmond]

Also the dog wants to sleep on the bed when I'm there which is not great as she likes to lie on my legs!🤣

[AuRavelling79]

Also the dog wants to sleep on the bed when I'm there which is not great as she likes to lie on my legs!🤣

Are we talking the dog, the daughter or the missus; I'm confused. 

[james peters]

Also the dog wants to sleep on the bed when I'm there which is not great as she likes to lie on my legs!🤣

Are we talking the dog, the daughter or the missus; I'm confused. 

you filthy animal 

[Slacky]

That’s a disgusting thing to say, no-one else was thinking that.

[Smudger]

That’s a disgusting thing to say, no-one else was thinking that.

Really 🧐

[Slacky]

  Joke. 

[Smudger]

Sarcasm 😜

[robbo333]

Mrs Window Cleaner is currently on holiday, for a few days, with her son, so it's just me and the dog at home and the bed to myself (that is me and my bulldog Florence).
I have to say that I am enjoying the single bed life; having the bed to myself is really very relaxing, comfortable and peaceful.
However, I'm sure it's only a matter of time before I miss her farting, fidgeting and snoring, so luckily for me she'll be home in a few days!   

[michael mckeary]

I retired from Fire Service and 6 years ago I started cleaning my windows and a neighbour because our windy fell off his ladder and never came back. After a year I had 20 customers but being a joiner I also did odd jobs. Started advertising my window cleaning and I got good customers all over the place. At the beginning it wasn't worth my while driving 8 miles to do one clean but I wasn't doing anything else and already had the van. Fairly soon that one customer got me a few more neighbours and now I have 10 in that estate. After studying window cleaners that were doing well on the forums I decided to copy them. Saved up an got a hotwater system fitted in my van and went on a few courses. Now I have 100 good customers and had to cancel all my advertising because I have too much work. I don't see the point of going over the Vat threshold nor employing anyone. I am now at my optimum level and want to stay at that level. I admire folk who have many vans on the road but they seem stressed out worrying about employees.

[Simon Trapani]

100 customers? That’s not even 10 days average work on my round!

[Stoots]

100 customers? That’s not even 10 days average work on my round!

4 on my round 

I can only imagine the guy lives in some wonderfull southern village with massive houses.

[deeege]

I only have 140 customers too and am completely full 

[AuRavelling79]

100 customers? That’s not even 10 days average work on my round!

Depends on the size of the customer. Let's just go with £25 average on a monthly cycle. £2500. Add the bloke's Fire Service Pension.

Plodding around at £250 a day for 10 days a month plus his pension. Chatting to the ladies. 'I used to be a fireman, I can handle a pole ...'

Sweet.

[DJW]

The firemen on here seem to handle their hose a lot.

[Richard iSparkle]

Are there any others on here who are trying to build a large residential window cleaning business?  i.e 1 million pound turnover

yep i'm working my way there...

not as quickly as i'd like though 

[Frankybadboy]

So you started young enough - you’ve got a good 15 years in you yet so really no need to expand

I only started windows at 44 so I needed expand to protect my future

15 years?he's only 43!he's got at least 25 years til 68 until he gets his state pension and then he might carry on working for another few years.

The guy I used to work for in 1992 only retired last year at 75 and only because he was forced to.another guy I know is still working at 80(he started up as a window cleaner aged 18)

62 years window cleaning!he says he's no plans to fully retire yet.👍

Daz some people don’t want to work til they’re that age. You will out of necessity, some people plan a different course of events for that stage of their lives.

I’ve got 2 - 3 months left to do then I’m outta here. I’ve sold my house, I’ve sold my business.

In three months I’m going away for a month to the sun then off to British Columbia to be with Laura. We’ll both have something to occupy us for three days a week each. Rest of the time we’ll be living a comfortable life in a great environment and travelling the world. Figi first probably for Christmas then we’ll see what 2025 brings.

I don't blame you mate.you ve aged terribly over the last few years.i was shocked at how old you look these days....I thought you were in your 70s already!😦😦

lol 

That's funny!



Looks like I need to buy some more baked beans I guess

i can see way you was chased out of keynsham 

[michael mckeary]

100 customers? That’s not even 10 days average work on my round!

101 now, picked up a new one today. Don't like to rush into things as I do other work. Don't advertise now, it means I usually get new customers when they see me out cleaning. I have 6 or so that I just tell them to call me when they want their windows cleaned, bigger money ones and I don't count them as customers. At the end of the day its still money coming in.

[Samuel Acquah]

Well if you (or anyone reading) do decide to expand, I'm selling my rounds in Stoke on Trent at a reasonable price.

sa.exteriorcleaning@outlook.com.

I'm new on the forum so please let me know if this is considered spam and I'll remove it.

[Slacky]

So you started young enough - you’ve got a good 15 years in you yet so really no need to expand

I only started windows at 44 so I needed expand to protect my future

15 years?he's only 43!he's got at least 25 years til 68 until he gets his state pension and then he might carry on working for another few years.

The guy I used to work for in 1992 only retired last year at 75 and only because he was forced to.another guy I know is still working at 80(he started up as a window cleaner aged 18)

62 years window cleaning!he says he's no plans to fully retire yet.👍

Daz some people don’t want to work til they’re that age. You will out of necessity, some people plan a different course of events for that stage of their lives.

I’ve got 2 - 3 months left to do then I’m outta here. I’ve sold my house, I’ve sold my business.

In three months I’m going away for a month to the sun then off to British Columbia to be with Laura. We’ll both have something to occupy us for three days a week each. Rest of the time we’ll be living a comfortable life in a great environment and travelling the world. Figi first probably for Christmas then we’ll see what 2025 brings.

I don't blame you mate.you ve aged terribly over the last few years.i was shocked at how old you look these days....I thought you were in your 70s already!😦😦

lol 

That's funny!



Looks like I need to buy some more baked beans I guess

i can see way you was chased out of keynsham 

Be leaving the country soon too 

[Ggh]

Well if you (or anyone reading) do decide to expand, I'm selling my rounds in Stoke on Trent at a reasonable price.
 
sa.exteriorcleaning@outlook.com.

I'm new on the forum so please let me know if this is considered spam and I'll remove it.

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