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Stoots

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When you move into a new house...
« on: August 20, 2021, 10:11:38 am »
And find out there's no water meter  :D

And the tap tds is only 118  ;)

🥳

NBwcs

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2021, 11:04:19 am »
And find out there's no water meter  :D

And the tap tds is only 118  ;)

🥳

Hope it stays that way for you, but a word of caution, most if not all water authorities will come and fit a new metre once a new customer moves in to a property that is currently rated not metered, its part of a nationwide target set by government years ago to get everyone metered. (I used to work for AW).

AuRavelling79

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2021, 02:05:43 pm »
And find out there's no water meter  :D

And the tap tds is only 118  ;)

🥳

Hope it stays that way for you, but a word of caution, most if not all water authorities will come and fit a new metre once a new customer moves in to a property that is currently rated not metered, its part of a nationwide target set by government years ago to get everyone metered. (I used to work for AW).

Nail crooked pieces of wood across your windows. Put tank traps on the approaches to your garden. Fight them on the beaches. Never surrender! 🤣
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dd

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2021, 05:20:52 pm »
If they need access to your property to fit the meter I think you can choose deny them access. Our water meter is fitted in the footpath at the front of our property so this was not an option for me.

deeege

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2021, 10:37:29 pm »
And find out there's no water meter  :D

And the tap tds is only 118  ;)

🥳

Were these not things you enquired about prior to moving into the property?
"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."

dd

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2021, 10:44:29 pm »
Just move in next door to Daz and you'll be fine.

KS Cleaning

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2021, 12:06:53 am »
Just move in next door to Daz and you'll be fine.
Even better, just move into Daz’s flat, he’s getting married soon and giving up the council flat to move in with the wife😉

Stoots

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2021, 06:49:17 am »
And find out there's no water meter  :D

And the tap tds is only 118  ;)

🥳

Were these not things you enquired about prior to moving into the property?

Nah, I've always rented and only this year managed to get a mortgage so when the house came up at the right price and location we just grabbed it. Just happy to finally be on the property ladder the water meter was the least of my concerns .

Probably get forced to have one installed anyway by the sounds of it.

Granny

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2021, 08:39:11 am »
They can't force you to have a water meter fitted.
But they entice you by cheaper rates.
When we last moved into a new house the water charges were £400 + per year.
With a meter fitted that came down to £180.
As an aside When you move into a new home and it's got a water meter and the TDS is 285 and you've just moved from a house with TDS about 80 - that's me!

dd

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2021, 09:56:47 am »
They can't force you to have a water meter fitted.
But they entice you by cheaper rates.
When we last moved into a new house the water charges were £400 + per year.
With a meter fitted that came down to £180.
As an aside When you move into a new home and it's got a water meter and the TDS is 285 and you've just moved from a house with TDS about 80 - that's me!
You can be forced to have a water meter fitted. I moved 12  years ago and had to have one installed. Personally I do not find it a big issue.

NBwcs

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2021, 12:26:47 pm »
They can't force you to have a water meter fitted.
But they entice you by cheaper rates.
When we last moved into a new house the water charges were £400 + per year.
With a meter fitted that came down to £180.
As an aside When you move into a new home and it's got a water meter and the TDS is 285 and you've just moved from a house with TDS about 80 - that's me!

Afraid they can.

JandS

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2021, 04:42:34 pm »
What's not to like about a water meter...my rates were about £55 then went on meter and down to £23.......then went wfp and it's still only £38
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Stoots

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2021, 06:08:46 pm »
What's not to like about a water meter...my rates were about £55 then went on meter and down to £23.......then went wfp and it's still only £38

Well a few years ago I rented a place that didn't have a water meter and we paid about 40 odd quid a month  family of 4 with window cleaning use.

In the house I'm moving out of, on a meter we are paying £150 a month. I use about 5000l a week from the tap for window cleaning. (Approx 2500l of pure a week)

I can only.assume you don't don't do much work or re use your bath water for cooking   ;D

james peters

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2021, 06:41:39 pm »
I am on a water meter , family of 3
I am DI only and pay around £65 a month , although looking at my last quarterly bill, I think it may be adjusted to about £75 a momnth soon.
I average about 400 ltres a day.
so if I was RO, I would expect to be paying around £150 a month.
I spend about £500 to £600 a year on resin.  my tap tds is between 50 and 80

In my last property which  I sold  12 years ago I was paying £29 a month and I was RO only
If I was still there , I expect it would now be £45 a month

Smudger

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2021, 08:31:35 am »
5000 ltr s = £15 p/w   So £65 a month - sounds like your very wasteful with water if the balance is £85 for the month

That's 1000 ltr s in the house per day!

Darran
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JandS

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2021, 10:12:36 am »
You're with Yorks water like me.....as Smudger said it's near enough £3 per 1000 litres......you're using 50000 litres a month at that price......28000 of that for personal use, that's a lot.
I use around 6k/7k per month work wise but none of that is waste.......TDS is averaging 80 round here.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

zesty

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2021, 11:29:47 am »
You're with Yorks water like me.....as Smudger said it's near enough £3 per 1000 litres......you're using 50000 litres a month at that price......28000 of that for personal use, that's a lot.
I use around 6k/7k per month work wise but none of that is waste.......TDS is averaging 80 round here.

Don’t forget about the standing charge. It’s usually a fair wack.

Also he’s defo not using 28,000 you mean 2,800. I don’t think my entire street uses 28,000 in a week!
 

JandS

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2021, 03:03:28 pm »
It's £2.96 round here including the standing charge for a 1000 litres so at £150 per month he's using 50,000 litres....work is 5,000 litres a week so around 22,000 litres.........28,000 litres usage.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

zesty

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2021, 03:22:27 pm »
It's £2.96 round here including the standing charge for a 1000 litres so at £150 per month he's using 50,000 litres....work is 5,000 litres a week so around 22,000 litres.........28,000 litres usage.

I don’t understand how anyone can use 28,000l of water in a month, excluding  pure water. That’s insane, almost impossible.

Something doesn’t add up…

Splash & dash

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2021, 03:37:11 pm »
It's £2.96 round here including the standing charge for a 1000 litres so at £150 per month he's using 50,000 litres....work is 5,000 litres a week so around 22,000 litres.........28,000 litres usage.

I don’t understand how anyone can use 28,000l of water in a month, excluding  pure water. That’s insane, almost impossible.

Something doesn’t add up…



Sounds like they might have a leak between the meter and the house .

Bungle

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2021, 06:19:40 pm »
I had a bill of over £1,000 last year for a 6 month bill. The float in the cylinder in the house failed and we had running water going down the drain for a fair while. It's usually around £400 every 6 months.
We look at them, they look through them.

Stoots

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2021, 06:37:12 am »
It's £2.96 round here including the standing charge for a 1000 litres so at £150 per month he's using 50,000 litres....work is 5,000 litres a week so around 22,000 litres.........28,000 litres usage.

3.25 is yorkshire water

46k litres a month or 10'600l a week based on my £150 a month

5000l will be pure water.

So 5600/7 is 800l a day for home .

2 baths a day is 500l or more right there, washing machine on non stop etc. Sounds about right to me.

Actually thinking about it, the bill might be less now it was 150 a month when I had an employee so will have used more water.


zesty

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2021, 07:31:46 am »
It's £2.96 round here including the standing charge for a 1000 litres so at £150 per month he's using 50,000 litres....work is 5,000 litres a week so around 22,000 litres.........28,000 litres usage.

3.25 is yorkshire water

46k litres a month or 10'600l a week based on my £150 a month

5000l will be pure water.

So 5600/7 is 800l a day for home .

2 baths a day is 500l or more right there, washing machine on non stop etc. Sounds about right to me.

Actually thinking about it, the bill might be less now it was 150 a month when I had an employee so will have used more water.

That’s mad mate, how many kids?

Average U.K. water consumption per household is circa 350-400l a day.

Smudger

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2021, 07:59:42 am »
Ever heard of a shower?

Darran
A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

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zesty

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2021, 08:02:50 pm »
It's £2.96 round here including the standing charge for a 1000 litres so at £150 per month he's using 50,000 litres....work is 5,000 litres a week so around 22,000 litres.........28,000 litres usage.

3.25 is yorkshire water

46k litres a month or 10'600l a week based on my £150 a month

5000l will be pure water.

So 5600/7 is 800l a day for home .

2 baths a day is 500l or more right there, washing machine on non stop etc. Sounds about right to me.

Actually thinking about it, the bill might be less now it was 150 a month when I had an employee so will have used more water.

What size is your bath mate  :o

Baths hold around 80-120 litres as no one fills them to the top. perhaps you had a small leak in the old house.

Be interesting if you have a lower bill in this new house, if you end up on a water meter that is…

Stoots

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2021, 10:34:29 pm »
Ever heard of a shower?

Darran

Yeh, that's the thing i use after I've laid In the bath for an hour .

Simon Trapani

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2021, 10:40:18 pm »
Who’s even got time for a bath as opposed to a shower?

Stoots

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2021, 10:54:49 am »
Who’s even got time for a bath as opposed to a shower?

Time?

You must work too much

I'm home for 3, I've got all night. Can't beat  half hour in the bath with some Epsom salts.

AuRavelling79

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2021, 11:59:52 am »
Who’s even got time for a bath as opposed to a shower?

Time?

You must work too much

I'm home for 3, I've got all night. Can't beat  half hour in the bath with some Epsom salts.
And a rubber duck. Don't forget the rubber duck.
It's a game of three halves!

Simon Trapani

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2021, 12:22:48 pm »
Who’s even got time for a bath as opposed to a shower?

Time?

You must work too much

I'm home for 3, I've got all night. Can't beat  half hour in the bath with some Epsom salts.
Didn’t say i was working. Just got better things to do with my time than lay in a bath 8)

Stoots

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2021, 03:34:04 pm »
Well I spoke to yorkshire water , flat charge of £470 for the year and they won't force me onto a meter.

Save over a grand a year, can have as many baths as I like now  ;D

Simon Trapani

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2021, 04:46:00 pm »
Result! Do other waterboards offer that? Always wondered what I’d do if/when we move one day.

Splash & dash

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2021, 05:17:49 pm »
All new builds have to have a water meter ,but you cannot be forced to have one in any other domestic property , they will strongly encourage you by saying it will be cheaper for you and in most cases they are right but they cannot fit a meter without your consent . Commercial is a total  different  situation .

Simon Trapani

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2021, 05:38:03 pm »
My understanding is that where I live (covered by Wessex Water & Bristol Water) any change of occupier now has to have a water meter fitted. So if I move I have to have one.

But if I wanted a meter fitted on my existing house (not that I would), then I can try it for up to 2 years. After that there is no going back.

Splash & dash

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2021, 05:43:08 pm »
My understanding is that where I live (covered by Wessex Water & Bristol Water) any change of occupier now has to have a water meter fitted. So if I move I have to have one.

But if I wanted a meter fitted on my existing house (not that I would), then I can try it for up to 2 years. After that there is no going back.




Ware I am is south west water a friend of mine works for them and he told me what I have already said , they will encourage you to have one fitted but cannot force you to , once it’s fitted though there is no going back .

zesty

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2021, 06:01:31 pm »
Well I spoke to yorkshire water , flat charge of £470 for the year and they won't force me onto a meter.

Save over a grand a year, can have as many baths as I like now  ;D

Result mate.

When we moved house, I was sure this current house didn’t have a water meter, as i couldn’t find one anywhere.

When I got the deeds and all the reports through before completion, I saw it was metered. Was gutted.

Turns out the water meter was under gravel in the front garden, whereas all the neighbours have it on the path.  ::)roll

kiral1404

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2021, 10:46:54 pm »
Where I am, we have  Bournemouth water and wessex water. One does mains the other sewerage. You can get a rebate for sewerage. Have to say how much water you use for window cleaning , toilet,  shower use.  I managed  a 74% saving on the waste water as what I didn't take away watered the garden rather than going down drain. Saved huge amount

Jonny Swirljet

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2021, 06:12:18 am »
Your stop tap is usually in the footpath outside your house. Most properties are usually in a state of readiness to have a water meter screwed into the carriage where the stop tap is. The meter belongs to the water company any problems or leaks beyond the meter towards your property is your problem. If you make a fuss they'll stick you on a business rate tariff.

NBwcs

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2021, 11:14:54 am »
Result! Do other waterboards offer that? Always wondered what I’d do if/when we move one day.

Anglian water will force you onto a meter if there's one fitted for that property, and even if the existing occupiers are paying by the rateable value the chances are AW will have fitted a meter anyway as part of their "extended metering program" in a bid to furfill govt targets set through Offwat, so when the new owners move in they get no choice. Its a long time since I worked there but AW were streets ahead of most other water companies in respect of getting everyone on a meter. You may get more joy in other areas. Also, if they find out your running a business which uses water particularly one like ours they have every right to force you onto a meter and a business tariff whether there's an existing meter fitted or not.

Smudger

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Re: When you move into a new house...
« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2021, 08:32:41 am »
Your stop tap is usually in the footpath outside your house. Most properties are usually in a state of readiness to have a water meter screwed into the carriage where the stop tap is. The meter belongs to the water company any problems or leaks beyond the meter towards your property is your problem. If you make a fuss they'll stick you on a business rate tariff.

That’s interesting I’m moving into a new property and the meter is in the kitchen under the sink 😄
A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

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