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mjm

surfactant use
« on: April 24, 2021, 08:18:45 pm »
are you using a surfactant or not     roofs and render

iam going to order some   SH        should i save my money should i save my money  and skip buying the surfactant and sent masker

Smudger

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Re: surfactant use
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2021, 12:24:23 am »
Use a Surfactant it really helps with roofs and vertical surfaces - I get mine off eBay and add 1 mug to a 20 litre drum

Darran
A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

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mjm

Re: surfactant use
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2021, 08:03:30 am »
Use a Surfactant it really helps with roofs and vertical surfaces - I get mine off eBay and add 1 mug to a 20 litre drum

Darran

alright  thanks  i will keep it as it is then

the king

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Re: surfactant use
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2021, 07:18:59 am »
I use clever wash very good stuff wouldn't be with out surfactant even on flore

tom20001

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Re: surfactant use
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2021, 09:27:42 pm »
Do you not just use good old fairy liquid?

mjm

Re: surfactant use
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2021, 02:51:39 pm »
Do you not just use good old fairy liquid?


no
why  is fairy better     

Splash & dash

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Re: surfactant use
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2021, 11:45:15 pm »
Do you not just use good old fairy liquid?


no
why  is fairy better     



Don’t use washing up liquid in hypo products it’s dangerous , it’s not compatible it will go like a thick gell in the bottom of the tank and finally it’s illegal although many on hear will disagree with what I have said I have posted the relevant information on hear numerous times all the information is on the HSE website about what can and cannot be added to hypo . This is the simplified version put in plain English if you want the technical terminology it’s on the HSE web site

the king

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Re: surfactant use
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2021, 06:47:08 am »
Do you not just use good old fairy liquid?
fairy is not a good idea in my view clever wash is designed to mix with hypo i was under the impression mixing fairy with hypo can cause musterd gas

Smudger

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Re: surfactant use
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2021, 12:30:52 pm »
Do you not just use good old fairy liquid?
fairy is not a good idea in my view clever wash is designed to mix with hypo i was under the impression mixing fairy with hypo can cause musterd gas

Your getting confused with ammonia and acids

Darran
A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

www.oddbodscleaning.co.uk

mjm

Re: surfactant use
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2021, 02:11:58 pm »
Thanks for clarifying I will carry on using the surfactant.   ??? Not fairy

Splash & dash

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Re: surfactant use
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2021, 02:42:13 pm »
Thanks for clarifying I will carry on using the surfactant.   ??? Not fairy



Wise choice 😂😂 on a serous note  you only need 300 ml of surfactant per 20 ltr neat drum of hypo so at between £20-45 per 5 ltr of surfactant ( depending what you use )  it’s cheap as chips anyway .

mjm

Re: surfactant use
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2021, 03:01:48 pm »
Thanks for clarifying I will carry on using the surfactant.   ??? Not fairy



Wise choice 😂😂 on a serous note  you only need 300 ml of surfactant per 20 ltr neat drum of hypo so at between £20-45 per 5 ltr of surfactant ( depending what you use )  it’s cheap as chips anyway .

Nice one 👍.   

tom20001

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Re: surfactant use
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2021, 10:23:47 am »
Thanks Lads I'll look up the surfactant. Whats the one you buy called Darran? Ive been using the fairy since day one I thought it was ok but there you go. Cheers

zesty

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Re: surfactant use
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2021, 12:27:53 pm »
Thanks for clarifying I will carry on using the surfactant.   ??? Not fairy



Wise choice 😂😂 on a serous note  you only need 300 ml of surfactant per 20 ltr neat drum of hypo so at between £20-45 per 5 ltr of surfactant ( depending what you use )  it’s cheap as chips anyway .

How does that work when adding water though? Let’s say you’ve got a 100 litre barrel and have 20-30l of hypo and the test water, surely you’d need way more surfactant than 4-500ml...

As you know I’ve always Used fairy, and only need a small amount in my barrel to make it ‘stick’

Splash & dash

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Re: surfactant use
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2021, 03:22:41 pm »
Thanks for clarifying I will carry on using the surfactant.   ??? Not fairy



Wise choice 😂😂 on a serous note  you only need 300 ml of surfactant per 20 ltr neat drum of hypo so at between £20-45 per 5 ltr of surfactant ( depending what you use )  it’s cheap as chips anyway .

How does that work when adding water though? Let’s say you’ve got a 100 litre barrel and have 20-30l of hypo and the test water, surely you’d need way more surfactant than 4-500ml...

As you know I’ve always Used fairy, and only need a small amount in my barrel to make it ‘stick’




It’s 300 ml of surfactant to a neat drum of hypo ,then you dilute the hypo down to 4-1 or what ever

zesty

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Re: surfactant use
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2021, 04:48:19 pm »
Thanks for clarifying I will carry on using the surfactant.   ??? Not fairy



Wise choice 😂😂 on a serous note  you only need 300 ml of surfactant per 20 ltr neat drum of hypo so at between £20-45 per 5 ltr of surfactant ( depending what you use )  it’s cheap as chips anyway .

How does that work when adding water though? Let’s say you’ve got a 100 litre barrel and have 20-30l of hypo and the test water, surely you’d need way more surfactant than 4-500ml...

As you know I’ve always Used fairy, and only need a small amount in my barrel to make it ‘stick’




It’s 300 ml of surfactant to a neat drum of hypo ,then you dilute the hypo down to 4-1 or what ever

I actually put less than that in my mixes with fairy. I’ll try clever wash and see what the difference there is.

Splash & dash

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Re: surfactant use
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2021, 05:41:31 pm »
Thanks for clarifying I will carry on using the surfactant.   ??? Not fairy



Wise choice 😂😂 on a serous note  you only need 300 ml of surfactant per 20 ltr neat drum of hypo so at between £20-45 per 5 ltr of surfactant ( depending what you use )  it’s cheap as chips anyway .

How does that work when adding water though? Let’s say you’ve got a 100 litre barrel and have 20-30l of hypo and the test water, surely you’d need way more surfactant than 4-500ml...

As you know I’ve always Used fairy, and only need a small amount in my barrel to make it ‘stick’




It’s 300 ml of surfactant to a neat drum of hypo ,then you dilute the hypo down to 4-1 or what ever

I actually put less than that in my mixes with fairy. I’ll try clever wash and see what the difference there is.




Cleverwash is good stuff but is around £45 for  5 ltr  the Lauryl one is £18 for 5 ltr  I don’t find any difference between them to be honest

zesty

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Re: surfactant use
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2021, 07:26:27 pm »
£45 seems silly expensive.

I’ve heard a few people use lauryl, might give that a go!

Splash & dash

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Re: surfactant use
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2021, 08:36:14 pm »
£45 seems silly expensive.

I’ve heard a few people use lauryl, might give that a go!


It sounds expensive at£45 but that will treat around 13 drums of neat hypo so it’s cheap as chips really , obviously the Lauryl  one is cheaper again

Smudger

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