[G & M]

Any links to the new  hot water system that someone was launching a while back.

[Lee GLS]

Any links to the new  hot water system that someone was launching a while back.

It was p@f I don’t think it’s out yet, I messaged him a few weeks ago but got no reply.

[TomCrowther]

Probably caught up in a minor explosion?

[G & M]

Thanks Lee and Tom

[Splash & dash]

Any links to the new  hot water system that someone was launching a while back.

It was p@f I don’t think it’s out yet, I messaged him a few weeks ago but got no reply.

That’s typical for pure freedom i phone them 3 times asking for  a price for two hot systems that was 6 years ago Ime still waiting for  a return call , glad I went with Grippatank,

[Slacky]

Any links to the new  hot water system that someone was launching a while back.

It was p@f I don’t think it’s out yet, I messaged him a few weeks ago but got no reply.

That’s typical for pure freedom i phone them 3 times asking for  a price for two hot systems that was 6 years ago Ime still waiting for  a return call , glad I went with Grippatank,

I take it Specsavers didn't get back to you either?

[Splash & dash]

Any links to the new  hot water system that someone was launching a while back.

It was p@f I don’t think it’s out yet, I messaged him a few weeks ago but got no reply.

That’s typical for pure freedom i phone them 3 times asking for  a price for two hot systems that was 6 years ago Ime still waiting for  a return call , glad I went with Grippatank,

I take it Specsavers didn't get back to you either?

Pure freedom have been selling hot water systems  for many years , they have no concept of customer service and no quality control whatsoever , the fact that the op is referring to a new thing they are about to release is irrelevant I was pointing out that after contacting them 3 times and being promised a call back it never happened so I wouldn’t hold my breath for them contacting him either , it’s a very common problem with them , I hope as sponsors of this forum they see this and offer some sort of explanation, but I very much doubt it .

[KS Cleaning]

Any links to the new  hot water system that someone was launching a while back.

It was p@f I don’t think it’s out yet, I messaged him a few weeks ago but got no reply.

That’s typical for pure freedom i phone them 3 times asking for  a price for two hot systems that was 6 years ago Ime still waiting for  a return call , glad I went with Grippatank,

I take it Specsavers didn't get back to you either?

Pure freedom have been selling hot water systems  for many years , they have no concept of customer service and no quality control whatsoever , the fact that the op is referring to a new thing they are about to release is irrelevant I was pointing out that after contacting them 3 times and being promised a call back it never happened so I wouldn’t hold my breath for them contacting him either , it’s a very common problem with them , I hope as sponsors of this forum they see this and offer some sort of explanation, but I very much doubt it .

p@f is a member on here and has developed a DIY hot diesel system......not to be confused with purefreedom😁

[Jonny 87]

🤣

I’ve used Grippatank myself but actually heard and seen good things about pure freedom.

P@f is a different guy. He’s an innovating genius, but he’s quiet. Hopefully he’s just building the empire up and will release these heaters en-mass. They looked great.

[the king]

Any links to the new  hot water system that someone was launching a while back.

It was p@f I don’t think it’s out yet, I messaged him a few weeks ago but got no reply.

That’s typical for pure freedom i phone them 3 times asking for  a price for two hot systems that was 6 years ago Ime still waiting for  a return call , glad I went with Grippatank,

I take it Specsavers didn't get back to you either?

Pure freedom have been selling hot water systems  for many years , they have no concept of customer service and no quality control whatsoever , the fact that the op is referring to a new thing they are about to release is irrelevant I was pointing out that after contacting them 3 times and being promised a call back it never happened so I wouldn’t hold my breath for them contacting him either , it’s a very common problem with them , I hope as sponsors of this forum they see this and offer some sort of explanation, but I very much doubt it .

p@f is a member on here and has developed a DIY hot diesel system......not to be confused with purefreedom😁

ive found purefreedom  a very poor place to order from never return calls cock up orders ill never order from them again

[Splash & dash]

Any links to the new  hot water system that someone was launching a while back.

It was p@f I don’t think it’s out yet, I messaged him a few weeks ago but got no reply.

That’s typical for pure freedom i phone them 3 times asking for  a price for two hot systems that was 6 years ago Ime still waiting for  a return call , glad I went with Grippatank,

I take it Specsavers didn't get back to you either?

Pure freedom have been selling hot water systems  for many years , they have no concept of customer service and no quality control whatsoever , the fact that the op is referring to a new thing they are about to release is irrelevant I was pointing out that after contacting them 3 times and being promised a call back it never happened so I wouldn’t hold my breath for them contacting him either , it’s a very common problem with them , I hope as sponsors of this forum they see this and offer some sort of explanation, but I very much doubt it .

p@f is a member on here and has developed a DIY hot diesel system......not to be confused with purefreedom😁

Lol apologies 😂😂😂😂

[Phil J]

I contacted P@F four years ago to come and clean my windows, Pure Freedom still haven't shown up. I'll have to find somebody else at this rate.

[NWH]

All Grippa will do is give you a date to fit it they know about these hot systems and if you had any problems but you shouldn’t,they’ll deal with it over the phone easy enough.
So you pay a little more I lost count of the amount of cold winter nights I was out on my drive In the dark  trying to sort problems out,plug in to charge go to work in the morning and turn on to hot water you get what you pay for.

[s.w.c]

grippatank should be called pantstank every order I've done with them there's been issues every time, there the nearest suppliers to me but I'll think twice before ordering again, they started doing there own carbon filters but they're not filled correctly and not lasting at all.

[NWH]

As far as hot water systems go I would only use them I know they aren’t fitting something they know nothing about.

[Jonny 87]

To be fair I can’t fault grippatank.

I got a diesel hot water system nearly 2 years ago  and it’s been spot on. Couple of little niggles, but Oliver was always in hand to help.

[NWH]

Has always got back to me and helped me out of a problem which in the end wasn’t anything to do with what they fitted.

[dazmond]

To be fair I can’t fault grippatank.

I got a diesel hot water system nearly 2 years ago  and it’s been spot on. Couple of little niggles, but Oliver was always in hand to help.

Same.....mines nearly 3 years old now used day in/day out..works like a dream........its never been serviced either.....

[NWH]

Had my  new 1 nearly 2 years if you look inside the cabinet it still looks a week old,great investment it never fails to impress me hot water I would never be without it.
I cleaned a house with cold this morning the windows are very brittle So for the first job I didn’t turn it on,very depressing cleaning with cold instead of hot there’s no comparison cleaning frames and sills is 100% easier.

[Jonny 87]

To be fair I can’t fault grippatank.

I got a diesel hot water system nearly 2 years ago  and it’s been spot on. Couple of little niggles, but Oliver was always in hand to help.

Same.....mines nearly 3 years old now used day in/day out..works like a dream........its never been serviced either.....

Same here.  I was gonna get it serviced every year at first, but it’s running sweet as a nut at the minute. Covid put a bit of a spanner in the works for getting down to Grippa to get it serviced too.

A lot seem to say when they are running well then it’s a sign they don’t need serviced. I’m unsure though to be fair, but so far so good.

[NWH]

My old systems fuel pump lasted years they are very reliable  when I got the first drop in heat output I changed the heat exchanger problem sorted back to optimum heat again for a few years,if you get smoke on start up and shut down the burner probably needs changing but again they last years.

[Jonny 87]

My old systems fuel pump lasted years they are very reliable  when I got the first drop in heat output I changed the heat exchanger problem sorted back to optimum heat again for a few years,if you get smoke on start up and shut down the burner probably needs changing but again they last years.

Yeah that’s the other thing I was told to look for, the smoke. It’s got zero smoke at all just now so that’s good. It’s even quieter running now than when I first got it. It used to sound like a jet engine taking off, now it’s definitely quieter, but I’m getting the same heat. 

[NWH]

You’ll also get smoke if the fuel tank on the van is low and it’s pumping dry you can hear it pump differently more of a knock,the other time you may get some smoke is if it’s on and not recirculating back to tank.
If this happens on the next startup it should burn off any build up of soot,when it keeps smoking it’s time for a new burner,the shutdown process is supposed to help a big build up of soot in the burner.

[Shrek]

What’s the difference between the grippatank hot water system and the pure freedom hot water system?

[NWH]

Inside the cabinet probably very little I think they still use the 2 man Pro90 burner but the footprint of the 2 man by Grippa is amazingly narrower not a lot more than 5-6” in width,burner in the middle of the cabinet with a heat exchanger either side and header tank directly above the burner.
Either side of the cabinet you have large rectus type female connectors for each hosereel should you be using it for a 2 man setup,if you have an old style stainless steel frame with a tank in this can be easily retrofitted onto the tank frame you would never know it’s been added on tbh. 

[NWH]

The main thing with Grippa and Oliver is that they know these heaters inside out many suppliers know very little about them when you get talking,these heaters are very reliable any problems are usually down to battery issues but if you regularly charge them they are trouble free.
I’ve had mine switching off on me on and off a few months ago but it was down to an old van battery that should have been changed,Since changing it working like a dream again.
Also they are the only company I know that actually come out and service them and change things like burners etc on site,imagine being told you’ve got to take it back to someone like Pure Freedom 🤣🤣,get all the way up there and it’s a fuse.

[Shrek]

Cheers , I may invest in one.

[NWH]

Think how much you’d pay for an ionic new version of the Pro5 which is an RO and pre filter van mount and it would be a cold setup,I’d rather have a static with pre filters and RO with just a tank-pump and reel in the van with a Grippa 2 man heater for the same money about 5grand  you’ve got a hot water system,buy that through ionic you can double that at least.

[dazmond]

What’s the difference between the grippatank hot water system and the pure freedom hot water system?

the pure freedom heaters dont integrate into the vans diesel tank...they have a separate small diesel tank in the back of the van so you have to fill it up separately...

[NWH]

Yeah well that’s an option from all of them a separate marine tank Ionic will plumb into the vehicle too,I could have had a separate tank from Grippa but it makes sense to go straight into the vehicle tank.
I’ve had one with a separate tank before and you can never get away from the smell of diesel no matter how careful you are,which ever way you look at it money well spent.

[dazmond]

Yeah well that’s an option from all of them a separate marine tank Ionic will plumb into the vehicle too,I could have had a separate tank from Grippa but it makes sense to go straight into the vehicle tank.
I’ve had one with a separate tank before and you can never get away from the smell of diesel no matter how careful you are,which ever way you look at it money well spent.

pure freedom dont give you the option to integrate into your vans diesel tank....theyll only fit a separate tank

[NWH]

Sorry I meant they all give an option for a separate tank that being Grippa or Ionic,they’ll ship you a hot box now something they wouldn’t have done originally they insisted on fitting them at Swindon or Chelmsford and going into the fuel tank.

[KS Cleaning]

Yeah well that’s an option from all of them a separate marine tank Ionic will plumb into the vehicle too,I could have had a separate tank from Grippa but it makes sense to go straight into the vehicle tank.
I’ve had one with a separate tank before and you can never get away from the smell of diesel no matter how careful you are,which ever way you look at it money well spent.

pure freedom dont give you the option to integrate into your vans diesel tank....theyll only fit a separate tank

They used to, I got a system fitted from them in 2011 and it was tapped directly into the vans fuel tank. I’m not sure of the reason why they stopped doing this, perhaps it was due to regulations?

[NWH]

It’s a lot more work dropping the tank down in a lot of cases VWs have insulating covers underneath the van making it a much longer job,if you just have a separate tank it’s a lot easier I installed my own years ago once everything is in situ in the van you just need to run the fuel line from heater to pump then into the fuel supply.
P&Fs setup is so simple yet is as effective as a single operating diesel heater that you’ll get from any of these suppliers,I don’t believe the components are the same but he must be using either a Webasto fuel pump or similar I hope he’s not selling them with the Chinese pumps they are supposed to be nowhere near as reliable.

[NWH]

Honestly always go for a heater plumbed into the vehicle tank like I said the smell almost can’t be avoided it gets eye watering at times,you start off being careful but if the separate tank ever goes over which it will at some point or spills you can’t get rid of the smell of diesel for months and even then it just dies down.

[NWH]

My old systems fuel pump lasted years they are very reliable  when I got the first drop in heat output I changed the heat exchanger problem sorted back to optimum heat again for a few years,if you get smoke on start up and shut down the burner probably needs changing but again they last years.

Yeah that’s the other thing I was told to look for, the smoke. It’s got zero smoke at all just now so that’s good. It’s even quieter running now than when I first got it. It used to sound like a jet engine taking off, now it’s definitely quieter, but I’m getting the same heat.

They run quieter and constantly hotter with optimum power from batteries,you can hear when they are struggling from the fuel pump.
If the fuel pump sounds like Ron Jeremy it’s spot on 🤣🤣

[KS Cleaning]

It’s a lot more work dropping the tank down in a lot of cases VWs have insulating covers underneath the van making it a much longer job,if you just have a separate tank it’s a lot easier I installed my own years ago once everything is in situ in the van you just need to run the fuel line from heater to pump then into the fuel supply.
P&Fs setup is so simple yet is as effective as a single operating diesel heater that you’ll get from any of these suppliers,I don’t believe the components are the same but he must be using either a Webasto fuel pump or similar I hope he’s not selling them with the Chinese pumps they are supposed to be nowhere near as reliable.

It’s a simple job to drop the tank. I was present when the mechanic fitted my tank frame to my latest van. He put my van on the ramp and had to drop the tank in order to bolt my frame through the floor, dropping the tank and heat shield then re fitting them took about 20 mins.

[Pete Thompson]

Yeah well that’s an option from all of them a separate marine tank Ionic will plumb into the vehicle too,I could have had a separate tank from Grippa but it makes sense to go straight into the vehicle tank.
I’ve had one with a separate tank before and you can never get away from the smell of diesel no matter how careful you are,which ever way you look at it money well spent.

pure freedom dont give you the option to integrate into your vans diesel tank....theyll only fit a separate tank

They used to, I got a system fitted from them in 2011 and it was tapped directly into the vans fuel tank. I’m not sure of the reason why they stopped doing this, perhaps it was due to regulations?

I bet it invalidates the vehicle’s warranty.

[Jonny 87]

Yeah well that’s an option from all of them a separate marine tank Ionic will plumb into the vehicle too,I could have had a separate tank from Grippa but it makes sense to go straight into the vehicle tank.
I’ve had one with a separate tank before and you can never get away from the smell of diesel no matter how careful you are,which ever way you look at it money well spent.

pure freedom dont give you the option to integrate into your vans diesel tank....theyll only fit a separate tank

They used to, I got a system fitted from them in 2011 and it was tapped directly into the vans fuel tank. I’m not sure of the reason why they stopped doing this, perhaps it was due to regulations?

I bet it invalidates the vehicle’s warranty.

I doubt that.

Grippa tank are fitting these systems all the time, and I’m sure they would have ran into this problem before now.

Also camper van conversions etc would
Be hitting the same problem.

I bet it’s just pure freedoms preference as it’s easier for them.