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jk999

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Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« on: September 02, 2020, 09:39:29 pm »
i need a drip tray for my ibc in my new shed i didn't use one in my old shed which caused the shed floor to rot away .can anyone recommend one for me please 

Stoots

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2020, 09:46:24 pm »
What about a paddling pool

Shrek

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2020, 09:53:45 pm »
Why don’t you sort the drips out instead? My 1000ltr ibc doesn’t have any drips/leaks and i bought it about 5 years ago

Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2020, 10:08:29 pm »
I've a 600 IBC in my garage. Mine sits on heavy duty black DPM/ pond liner that I also ran up the two walls it sits in the corner of.

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2020, 10:28:41 pm »
Its not dripping i dont have anything to stop water so if i forget it ,it overflows onto floor so just wanted it to sit over a drip tray was gonna drill an hole in floor so the water would run out instead of all over floor

Stoots

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2020, 10:37:11 pm »
In that case fit an overflow pipe.. Bit of hose pipe into the side near the top ran outside.

Or get an auto shut off valve fitted.

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2020, 11:05:19 pm »
Does the auto shut of valve completely stop all water, i once suggested to someone about fitting a ball cock they said it will stop water flow but then all the water will then go out of waste instead

Ched

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2020, 12:32:22 am »
If you use a float switch and a solynoid valve to the inlet of your filters then it will cut off all water. Remember to use low voltage to float and solynoid as mains and water aren't good. If using a booster pump you can wire a relay in to switch that off too if it doesn't have a low pressure cut off switch.

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2020, 01:31:40 pm »
Can anyone put any links up for these float switches please

Ched

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2020, 02:37:54 pm »
Something like this https://amzn.to/2EZeUVp is about £7 for 2. They are mounted from the top as to me they will be less prone to leak as the hole is higher in the tank.
If you need a 12v relay https://amzn.to/3h3Au8N at under £7 would work. You could use this to switch a 240v or 24v pump if necessary. Only 'play' with 240v if you know what you are doing as it can 'bite' in a big way!!!
For a solynoid valve https://amzn.to/3bm7x6u is about £9 works on 12v takes 100psi and has 1/2inch barbs.
I am assuming you have 12v to power the solynoid? It's a normally closed which means without power it shuts off the flow.
The float switch can be setup to break the circuit when the level rises which would work to break the 12v to the solynoid valve.

Hope that above gives you an idea. There will be lots of other types but Amazon is easy and has lower free p&p limits than some others.

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2020, 07:01:17 pm »
Cheers for that 🙂👍

Bungle

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2020, 07:19:44 pm »
I’ve got one of these, pricey but it works. It says it won’t shut off when using a booster pump but mine does.
https://purefreedom.co.uk/auto-shut-off-kit.html
We look at them, they look through them.

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2020, 08:08:49 pm »
Was it simple to fit bungle i dont have a booster pump as my water pressure is over 100 psi

Bungle

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2020, 08:33:05 pm »
Was it simple to fit bungle i dont have a booster pump as my water pressure is over 100 psi

I bought a complete package from Purefreedom that consisted of IBC, membrane, pre filters, auto shut off...

I don’t think it would be too difficult to fit yourself. You’ll need to cut a hole in the top of the IBC and cut the hose going into the pre filters to fit the solenoid.
We look at them, they look through them.

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2020, 08:38:11 pm »
Cheers for that 🙂👍

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2020, 11:49:07 pm »
I just received the auto shut of valve fitted it to my tank and filters before ro the valve seems to but fixed in a closed position if you understand what i mean doesn't want to open up n let water through any ideas

Bungle

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2020, 11:52:02 am »
Have you switched it on? By that I mean to the mains electric.
We look at them, they look through them.

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2020, 02:27:42 pm »
Yes 🙂👍

KS Cleaning

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2020, 04:12:59 pm »
I just received the auto shut of valve fitted it to my tank and filters before ro the valve seems to but fixed in a closed position if you understand what i mean doesn't want to open up n let water through any ideas
Sounds like the solenoid, check the wiring.

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2020, 05:54:28 pm »
Is the solenoid the t piece what water goes through

KS Cleaning

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2020, 06:29:21 pm »
Is the solenoid the t piece what water goes through
It’s a small electrical component that operates the valve, if it’s not working the valve won’t open which sounds like the problem you’re having.

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2020, 06:47:05 pm »
Ok cheers guys i will ring purefreedom tomorrow,i would have thought it was all checked in the unit 😞

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2020, 09:00:08 am »
Bungle does your float switch go in top of your tank or at the side .the guy at purefreedom told me it has to go in at the side so tried all ways and the valve does not open

Ched

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2020, 11:23:25 am »
Bungle does your float switch go in top of your tank or at the side .the guy at purefreedom told me it has to go in at the side so tried all ways and the valve does not open
The float switch just closes or opens an electrical connection to open the valve, depending on design they mount on top or side of tank. If you have the float switch in your hand and system powered up just move the float and see if the valve opens.
I guess you don't have a multi meter that you could test the components with?
Is the system a 12v one? If so have you checked the fuses and that both 0v and 12v are good connections?

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2020, 12:25:53 pm »
Ok i thought that purefreedom told me it needs to be in sideways .the valve doesn't open either way

Ched

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2020, 12:45:54 pm »
Ok i thought that purefreedom told me it needs to be in sideways .the valve doesn't open either way
Sorry I may not have been clear. You can buy float valves that fit in the top of the tank or the side.
Purefreedom should know what type they supply.
If its not opening the 'fill' valve then  there is something wrong.
Is the system 12v or 240v mains?

If its 12v then its safe to 'play' with. Normally a 12v fill valve  just needs 12v (0v and +12v) applying to the terminals of the valve to open it. The float switch normally just cuts the supply to the fill valve to shut off water when tank is full.
Hope that gives you a clue?

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2020, 01:18:02 pm »
its mains i have tried all ways but it doesn't open up to let water through. To be honest i have a funny feeling hes gonna tell me that it was all tested in unit and i have probably done something wrong hope not because its the only 240 volt i could find to do my 4040 ro all others were for the smaller ro s

Ched

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2020, 02:42:12 pm »
If it's mains and you are not familiar DONT  'play' with the connections. Main voltage can kill!!!!

Just because PureFreedom tested a system before it was dispatched doesn't mean that by the time you received it a connection didn't come lose!

Ask Purefreedon for a connection diagram. Then you have something that you (if you are confident in your skill and ability) or an electrician can look at and work out what is wrong. It should be PureF that sort it out but if you have a mate who is an electrician then it might be easier to buy him a few pints and get it sorted quickly so you have a working system.

If you ordered via internet or phone then distance selling rules apply. You might remind them that when goods arrive with a customer they should work irrespective of when the left their facilities.
Speak to your local Trading Standards office as they are normally helpful in informing you of your rights, as a business to business sale they can be different.
Try and speak to them politely but firmly and ask how they are going to resolve the issue? Mention what Trading Standards have said your rights are etc...

Good luck and let us know how you get on.

Sorry I can't be of more help but I wouldn't want to suggest things without knowing the system or your skills.


Bungle

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2020, 07:02:01 pm »
Try moving the actual float up and down to see if that is stuck in the closed position. I don’t know what else to advise 🤷‍♂️
We look at them, they look through them.

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2020, 07:45:35 pm »
You can hear the valve clicking when you move float switch up n down but it wont open so think im gonna have to send it back 😭😭😭😭

Ched

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2020, 08:07:33 pm »
You can hear the valve clicking when you move float switch up n down but it wont open so think im gonna have to send it back 😭😭😭😭
If it's clicking then it sounds like the connections are fine. Sounds like the solenoid valve is faulty. or it's stuck. Unplug the mains, disconnect the water and then disconnect the pipe connections to the solenoid. You should be able to see if there is a blockage. If you carefully connect the mains and activate the float switch you should be able to see the valve open. If it wont open then I guess its stuck.
I would have thought if you explain to PureF that when the float switch is activated the solenoid clicks then they would send you a new one. OK so you have to fit it (remember unplug the mains before you touch connections)  but at least you would be up and running a bit quicker than returning it.

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2020, 08:39:19 pm »
ok cheers guys 🙂👍

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2020, 11:21:17 pm »
I always thought if the float valve kit is electric that once the water reached the float that the electric part of it shuts the valve to stop water flow then once the water level drops and the float switch drops again the electric  automatically opens it again

Ched

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2020, 12:24:49 am »
I always thought if the float valve kit is electric that once the water reached the float that the electric part of it shuts the valve to stop water flow then once the water level drops and the float switch drops again the electric  automatically opens it again
That's the way it should work.

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2020, 07:52:50 am »
Ok because purefreedoms trying to say its the water pressure that opens the valve i just think they are just saying anything because they don't want to admit its the valve thats faulty. Urrh why not just say it faulty we will send out another valve jesus

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2020, 05:18:50 pm »
Unbelievable sent my auto shut of kit back cost me nearly a fiver .rang them up they said its on its way back to you they had put the wrong plug on 5 amp when it should have been 12 amp .fecking joke made out i was fitting it wrong when it was their fault

Ched

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2020, 07:19:57 pm »
Unbelievable sent my auto shut of kit back cost me nearly a fiver .rang them up they said its on its way back to you they had put the wrong plug on 5 amp when it should have been 12 amp .fecking joke made out i was fitting it wrong when it was their fault
Are they doing anything to make a amends ?
It's great to know it wasn't you at fault but soo frustrating and time wasting, let alone the money.
Hope you manage to sort your auto shutoff out. They shouldn't be that complex. They are just a solenoid valve and a float switch.

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2020, 10:09:35 pm »
Haven't said anything yet about the money gonna see when it gets back if they have anything else in the package as a good will gesture 🙂👍

tlwcs

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2020, 07:24:20 am »
Just stop buying from them, I have.

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2020, 09:34:19 am »
It was the only place I could find that sold the auto shut off valve for 4040 ro

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2020, 04:28:20 pm »
Yippee it works 😇but he doesn't know what he doing because he told me it had to be fitted in side of tank i have it going in from top of lid and it works perfectly fine 🙂👍

Ched

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2020, 06:02:57 pm »
Yippee it works 😇but he doesn't know what he doing because he told me it had to be fitted in side of tank i have it going in from top of lid and it works perfectly fine 🙂👍
That's good news that it works. Did they at minimum refund your return postage costs?

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2020, 09:45:17 pm »
Nothing quite disappointing to be honest 😕

Ched

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2020, 09:56:32 pm »
Nothing quite disappointing to be honest 😕
I think the least they could have done is refund your postage costs as it was their fault. They should have bent over backwards to try and regain your confidence in the company.

Remind us which company it was so we can beware.

jk999

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Re: Drip tray to fit a 1000 ltr ibc tank
« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2020, 12:04:53 am »
Purefreedom 👍