[Missing Link]

We've not reached peak curve on the Covid-19 virus posts yet, but this is worth pointing out...



https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do

Which is what I've been saying all along.

[The Jester of Wibbly]

Good post. Now let's wait for all the abuse and incorrect information to land.

[Missing Link]

Good post. Now let's wait for all the abuse and incorrect information to land.

It's surprises me the number of epidemiological experts there are on this site.

[JackieW]

I agree completely. And now that I've made my decision not to work I am happy with whatever decision any body else makes whether to work or not.
The government as far as I know have not said you are not allowed to work.

[johnwillan]

We've not reached peak curve on the Covid-19 virus posts yet, but this is worth pointing out...



https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do

Which is what I've been saying all along.

Thank you

[Missing Link]

Thank you

Tomo facebooked me them.

Cheers, Tomo.

[p1w1]

We've not reached peak curve on the Covid-19 virus posts yet, but this is worth pointing out...



https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do

Which is what I've been saying all along.

That doesn't apply if you work in Devon/Cornwall, however should you try and work in that area you may want to wear a bullet proof vest 

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

I think for the majority of sensible people it's a question of "should" I go to work and not whether they "can" or are "allowed" to  go.
There is a silent, invisible and indiscriminate killer prowling the streets of our country. It's everywhere, it's all around you now and it's sole purpose is to infect you and your loved ones- then for you and them infect others and theirs. The evidence is in your face, 24/7, humans are dropping like flies. Entire Nations are grinding to a halt like no other time in history. Our own country are building gigantic temporary mortuarys,  field hospitals etc right now! We don't even have enough medical staff, beds or machines to even remotely deal with what's about to happen and IS already happening all around us. It's there for you all to see, right now. No excuses, own the responsibility as it's yours and yours alone now.
So, if you fancy your chances for the sake of One or Two weeks extra wages, then knock yourself out.👍

[Missing Link]

I think for the majority of sensible people it's a question of "should" I go to work and not whether they "can" or are "allowed" to  go.
There is a silent, invisible and indiscriminate killer prowling the streets of our country. It's everywhere, it's all around you now and it's sole purpose is to infect you and your loved ones- then for you and them infect others and theirs. The evidence is in your face, 24/7, humans are dropping like flies. Entire countries are grinding to a halt like no other time in history. Our own country are building gigantic temporary mortuarys,  field hospitals etc right now! We don't even have enough medical staff, beds or machines to even remotely deal with what's about to happen and IS already happening all around us. It's there for you all to see, right now. No excuses, own the responsibility as it's yours and yours alone now.
So, if you fancy your chances for the sake of One or Two weeks extra wages, then knock yourself out.👍

**hysterical post alert**

[The Jester of Wibbly]

Maybe the next Prime Minister is in this forum if you think the rules set by Boris who is following scientific advice is wrong.

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

I think for the majority of sensible people it's a question of "should" I go to work and not whether they "can" or are "allowed" to  go.
There is a silent, invisible and indiscriminate killer prowling the streets of our country. It's everywhere, it's all around you now and it's sole purpose is to infect you and your loved ones- then for you and them infect others and theirs. The evidence is in your face, 24/7, humans are dropping like flies. Entire countries are grinding to a halt like no other time in history. Our own country are building gigantic temporary mortuarys,  field hospitals etc right now! We don't even have enough medical staff, beds or machines to even remotely deal with what's about to happen and IS already happening all around us. It's there for you all to see, right now. No excuses, own the responsibility as it's yours and yours alone now.
So, if you fancy your chances for the sake of One or Two weeks extra wages, then knock yourself out.👍

**hysterical post alert**

Unfortunately, because of idiots like you, lives will be lost.

[harleyman]

why should we any diffrent than building workers their are closing sites

[Missing Link]

Unfortunately, because of idiots like you, lives will be lost.

**hysterical post alert**

[Missing Link]

why should we any diffrent than building workers their are closing sites

You are stupid.

Try to have a think and then get back to me.

Hint:  there is a genuine social distancing problem with working on building sites.  And travelling to them, particularly in London.

[The Jester of Wibbly]

why should we any diffrent than building workers their are closing sites

Because they can't work within the distancing rules.

Read the full news articles not just the headlines

[Rob.Hall]

Explain this.....

Majority of country are staying at home or working from home.

Window cleaners, gardeners (as sole operators) are not coming into contact with people as long as they are payed by bacs or if cash, its left in an envelope for them to pick up.
Only time you may be in danger is if you need fuel.

Now considering if the outcome for this country is 20,000 deaths upwards and most people are at home where is this virus being transferred?
As we have only, (said in fig terms), hit 1000 deaths the places most  people will meet is at food outlets and petrol stations..... Or hospital.

I will leave this here and await incoming...

[Jonny 87]

I really have a problem with the “silent killer outside” nonsense.

Nearly every single one of us Is going to get this!!! Unless you stay home for 18 months (which includes not going out for food shopping)

The problem is volume. Health service can’t cope because it’s all happening too quick.

If you work outside, alone, and follow social distancing, it’s all you can do.

All these people that say don’t work, do you go to the shops? 

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

I'm just pleased it's not me that's actually advocating, promoting and encouraging people to go out and work in these circumstances.
 I'm not that stupid or irresponsible, nor would I wish to shoulder the possible results and consequences of such actions. But hey ho, neither am I a forum hero!

[Missing Link]

I'm just pleased it's not me that's actually advocating, promoting and encouraging people to go out and work in these circumstances.
 I'm not that stupid or irresponsible, nor would I wish to shoulder the possible results and consequences of such actions. But hey ho, neither am I a forum hero!

**hysterical post alert**

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

I'm just pleased it's not me that's actually advocating, promoting and encouraging people to go out and work in these circumstances.
 I'm not that stupid or irresponsible, nor would I wish to shoulder the possible results and consequences of such actions. But hey ho, neither am I a forum hero!

**hysterical post alert**

We'll see.👍

[Missing Link]

We'll see.👍

Please, don't give up, I love your appeals to emotion.  They beat any science-led policy any day.

[Jonny 87]

I'm just pleased it's not me that's actually advocating, promoting and encouraging people to go out and work in these circumstances.
 I'm not that stupid or irresponsible, nor would I wish to shoulder the possible results and consequences of such actions. But hey ho, neither am I a forum hero!

Government backed by health experts are encouraging people to work if safe to do so.

What do they know though right?

Window cleaners and facebook warriors are far more informed.

I like your posts peavey! We just disagree on this issue.

[Jonny 87]

This is going to run it’s course, be what may. Regardless of a few hundred window cleaners going out and cleaning some glass.

[Richard Groves]

Finally some clarification instead of a few anonymous individuals interpretation of governments guidelines on the Internet. I'm undecided as yet whether I'll try working this week. I didn't the last one as was waiting to see how things developed plus the confusion of governments stance and the squabbling on here as to who was right.

At least I can now make an informed decision rather than one based on hearsay.

[P @ F]

I’m in Devon/Cornwall and I have not had any problems as yet , on Friday a squad car drove past me and waved .
I have had 2 leave it’s so far in the 3 last days that I have worked , I am giving every custie the choice before I start the job , and my area is one of those righteous thing places , lots of tree huggers and vegans here !

[davids3511]

Good post. Now let's wait for all the abuse and incorrect information to land.

It's surprises me the number of epidemiological experts there are on this site.

Facebook too. A vaccine can only be days away with so many experts in the country.

[The Jester of Wibbly]

Hi Ho, Hi Ho,
It's off to work we go,
with a bottle of rum
and a very sore bum
Hi Ho, Hi Ho, Hi Ho

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

Government backed experts are also  telling the whole nation to stay indoors. Only to go outside if absolutely necessary to support life/health and wellbeing. To take only a maximum of one hours exercise per day, outside your own home- and this must be within your own locality- you must not even travel to do this. All public places are now closed.
Like I said, the evidence is there for all to see and witness. The responsibility is all yours, you are kidding/convincing only yourselves in this matter. It's your choice.

[davids3511]

I think for the majority of sensible people it's a question of "should" I go to work and not whether they "can" or are "allowed" to  go.
There is a silent, invisible and indiscriminate killer prowling the streets of our country. It's everywhere, it's all around you now and it's sole purpose is to infect you and your loved ones- then for you and them infect others and theirs. The evidence is in your face, 24/7, humans are dropping like flies. Entire countries are grinding to a halt like no other time in history. Our own country are building gigantic temporary mortuarys,  field hospitals etc right now! We don't even have enough medical staff, beds or machines to even remotely deal with what's about to happen and IS already happening all around us. It's there for you all to see, right now. No excuses, own the responsibility as it's yours and yours alone now.
So, if you fancy your chances for the sake of One or Two weeks extra wages, then knock yourself out.👍

**hysterical post alert**

Unfortunately, because of idiots like you, lives will be lost.

You too are causing problems and death, just further down the line. They recon austerity killed 100000. If everyone behaved like you are advocating, downing tools and taking 1000's off the government you will kill people, just it'll be in a year or two.

[Missing Link]

Government backed experts are also  telling the whole nation to stay indoors. Only to go outside if absolutely necessary to support life/health and wellbeing. To take only a maximum of one hours exercise per day, outside your own home- and this must be within your own locality- you must not even travel to do this. All public places are now closed.
Like I said, the evidence is there for all to see and witness. The responsibility is all yours, you are kidding/convincing only yourselves in this matter. It's your choice.

Right, you're spreading fake news now. 

Go and read the staying at home rules - including the exemptions - and get back to me.

[G Griffin]

I think for the majority of sensible people it's a question of "should" I go to work and not whether they "can" or are "allowed" to  go.
There is a silent, invisible and indiscriminate killer prowling the streets of our country. It's everywhere, it's all around you now and it's sole purpose is to infect you and your loved ones- then for you and them infect others and theirs. The evidence is in your face, 24/7, humans are dropping like flies. Entire countries are grinding to a halt like no other time in history. Our own country are building gigantic temporary mortuarys,  field hospitals etc right now! We don't even have enough medical staff, beds or machines to even remotely deal with what's about to happen and IS already happening all around us. It's there for you all to see, right now. No excuses, own the responsibility as it's yours and yours alone now.
So, if you fancy your chances for the sake of One or Two weeks extra wages, then knock yourself out.👍

**hysterical post alert**

Unfortunately, because of idiots like you, lives will be lost.

You too are causing problems and death, just further down the line. They recon austerity killed 100000. If everyone behaved like you are advocating, downing tools and taking 1000's off the government you will kill people, just it'll be in a year or two.

*Hysterical post alert*.

[Dry Clean]

I'm just pleased it's not me that's actually advocating, promoting and encouraging people to go out and work in these circumstances.
 I'm not that stupid or irresponsible, nor would I wish to shoulder the possible results and consequences of such actions. But hey ho, neither am I a forum hero!

**hysterical post alert**

This just shows what panic can do to people, until now Iv always found Peavey to be one of the more level headed on here, blunt at times but level headed.

[G Griffin]

Good post. Now let's wait for all the abuse and incorrect information to land.

It's surprises me the number of epidemiological experts there are on this site.

The ones saying that window cleaners won't make a blind bit of difference to the corona?
And then they diagnose that their partner could have had it since February.
That is a special type of expert.

Go to work and stop seeking validation. You'd best hurry because Boris is breathing down your neck.

[Missing Link]

The ones saying that window cleaners won't make a blind bit of difference to the corona?
And then they diagnose that their partner could have had it since February.
That is a special type of expert.

Go to work and stop seeking validation. You'd best hurry because Boris is breathing down your neck.

**stupid post alert**

[Don Kee]

Government backed experts are also  telling the whole nation.....To take only a maximum of one hours exercise per day, outside your own home

Link please; I’ve done a bit of research into this one, must have missed this specific advice.

[Missing Link]

Government backed experts are also  telling the whole nation.....To take only a maximum of one hours exercise per day, outside your own home

Link please; I’ve done a bit of research into this one, must have missed this specific advice.

It's one of the reasons I called it fake news.

The exercise isn't compulsory either.  Even in they army they didn't make you exercise everyday.

And I'd just like to point out that cycling isn't really exercise either; it's sat on your arse.

[Dry Clean]

Government backed experts are also  telling the whole nation.....To take only a maximum of one hours exercise per day, outside your own home

Link please; I’ve done a bit of research into this one, must have missed this specific advice.

Not sure if Peavey is in the UK so maybe that's the advice he's getting.

[dd]

I think for the majority of sensible people it's a question of "should" I go to work and not whether they "can" or are "allowed" to  go.
There is a silent, invisible and indiscriminate killer prowling the streets of our country. It's everywhere, it's all around you now and it's sole purpose is to infect you and your loved ones- then for you and them infect others and theirs. The evidence is in your face, 24/7, humans are dropping like flies. Entire countries are grinding to a halt like no other time in history. Our own country are building gigantic temporary mortuarys,  field hospitals etc right now! We don't even have enough medical staff, beds or machines to even remotely deal with what's about to happen and IS already happening all around us. It's there for you all to see, right now. No excuses, own the responsibility as it's yours and yours alone now.
So, if you fancy your chances for the sake of One or Two weeks extra wages, then knock yourself out.👍

**hysterical post alert**

Unfortunately, because of idiots like you, lives will be lost.

You too are causing problems and death, just further down the line. They recon austerity killed 100000. If everyone behaved like you are advocating, downing tools and taking 1000's off the government you will kill people, just it'll be in a year or two.

Last week I listened to an interview with a professor from Bristol University.

He published a study that indicated because there is a link between GDP (basically the prosperity of a nation) and life expectancy - in a nutshell if the economy is too damaged more lives will be lost through this impact than Covid 19.

[G Griffin]

The ones saying that window cleaners won't make a blind bit of difference to the corona?
And then they diagnose that their partner could have had it since February.
That is a special type of expert.

Go to work and stop seeking validation. You'd best hurry because Boris is breathing down your neck.

**stupid post alert**

It did contain a lot of stupidity.

[Don Kee]

Government backed experts are also  telling the whole nation.....To take only a maximum of one hours exercise per day, outside your own home

Link please; I’ve done a bit of research into this one, must have missed this specific advice.

It's one of the reasons I called it fake news.

I know, I saw that, gold star for you.

But you going on and on, ramming things down peoples throats obviously isn’t working, so I’m giving an opportunity for someone to back up what they’ve said or realise they made a boo boo.

Trying to be right all the time creates provocation, making someone realise their mistake is education.

[G Griffin]

I think for the majority of sensible people it's a question of "should" I go to work and not whether they "can" or are "allowed" to  go.
There is a silent, invisible and indiscriminate killer prowling the streets of our country. It's everywhere, it's all around you now and it's sole purpose is to infect you and your loved ones- then for you and them infect others and theirs. The evidence is in your face, 24/7, humans are dropping like flies. Entire countries are grinding to a halt like no other time in history. Our own country are building gigantic temporary mortuarys,  field hospitals etc right now! We don't even have enough medical staff, beds or machines to even remotely deal with what's about to happen and IS already happening all around us. It's there for you all to see, right now. No excuses, own the responsibility as it's yours and yours alone now.
So, if you fancy your chances for the sake of One or Two weeks extra wages, then knock yourself out.👍

**hysterical post alert**

Unfortunately, because of idiots like you, lives will be lost.

You too are causing problems and death, just further down the line. They recon austerity killed 100000. If everyone behaved like you are advocating, downing tools and taking 1000's off the government you will kill people, just it'll be in a year or two.

Last week I listened to an interview with a professor from Bristol University.

He published a study that indicated because there is a link between GDP (basically the prosperity of a nation) and life expectancy - in a nutshell if the economy is too damaged more lives will be lost through this impact than Covid 19.

Too damaged? Did he specify how much damage is too much?
How many windows do we have to not clean before the economy becomes too damaged?
That'd be very helpful and I could plan my work around it.

[Missing Link]

Trying to be right all the time creates provocation, making someone realise their mistake is education.

It depends what your aim is and my aim isn't to educate.

You cannot dig irrational people out of emotive trenches using logic and reason.

But you can annoy them.

You'll just get radio silence from Peavey.

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

I'm just pleased it's not me that's actually advocating, promoting and encouraging people to go out and work in these circumstances.
 I'm not that stupid or irresponsible, nor would I wish to shoulder the possible results and consequences of such actions. But hey ho, neither am I a forum hero!

**hysterical post alert**

This just shows what panic can do to people, until now Iv always found Peavey to be one of the more level headed on here, blunt at times but level headed.

Here's the thing, and this is true, I have no reason to lie-
Apart from 4 of my family members being currently infected with covid19, earlier today I recieved a message from my friend and fellow window cleaner informing me that he is now self isolating with all the symptoms of covid19. 8 days ago, me and him were having the exact same discussion that is now happening here, in this thread. I stayed at home, he went to work!
It wasn't absolutely necessary or vital that he worked last week, nor would it have been this coming week. I can only hope that he has to experience mild symptoms, he's married with Two children.
As I said, it's your choice now but do you think it wise to advocate the continuation of none vital or necessary work and risk putting even more people at risk?

[G Griffin]

Trying to be right all the time creates provocation, making someone realise their mistake is education.

It depends what your aim is and my aim isn't to educate.

That's just as well.
Leave it to us experts.

[Jonny 87]

I'm just pleased it's not me that's actually advocating, promoting and encouraging people to go out and work in these circumstances.
 I'm not that stupid or irresponsible, nor would I wish to shoulder the possible results and consequences of such actions. But hey ho, neither am I a forum hero!

**hysterical post alert**

This just shows what panic can do to people, until now Iv always found Peavey to be one of the more level headed on here, blunt at times but level headed.

Here's the thing, and this is true, I have no reason to lie-
Apart from 4 of my family members being currently infected with covid19, earlier today I recieved a message from my friend and fellow window cleaner informing me that he is now self isolating with all the symptoms of covid19. 8 days ago, me and him were having the exact same discussion that is now happening here, in this thread. I stayed at home, he went to work!
It wasn't absolutely necessary or vital that he worked last week, nor would it have been this coming week. I can only hope that he has to experience mild symptoms, he's married with Two children.
As I said, it's your choice now but do you think it wise to advocate the continuation of none vital or necessary work and risk putting even more people at risk?

Sorry to hear a few have been struck with it close to you.

The odds are they will pull through it no problem though! As do the vast majority of people.

I feel like I’m Banging a steel drum,  but we are all going to get this. For most it’s just a cold.

[Ooooooog]

I'm just pleased it's not me that's actually advocating, promoting and encouraging people to go out and work in these circumstances.
 

No, it’s the Government.

[James Styles]

I’m sitting out the next month but if no stricter lockdowns are put in place by then to take the option away from us I think I would definately strongly consider going back to work as I’ll be getting cabin fever by then 😂

[KS Cleaning]

I'm just pleased it's not me that's actually advocating, promoting and encouraging people to go out and work in these circumstances.
 I'm not that stupid or irresponsible, nor would I wish to shoulder the possible results and consequences of such actions. But hey ho, neither am I a forum hero!

**hysterical post alert**

This just shows what panic can do to people, until now Iv always found Peavey to be one of the more level headed on here, blunt at times but level headed.

Here's the thing, and this is true, I have no reason to lie-
Apart from 4 of my family members being currently infected with covid19, earlier today I recieved a message from my friend and fellow window cleaner informing me that he is now self isolating with all the symptoms of covid19. 8 days ago, me and him were having the exact same discussion that is now happening here, in this thread. I stayed at home, he went to work!
It wasn't absolutely necessary or vital that he worked last week, nor would it have been this coming week. I can only hope that he has to experience mild symptoms, he's married with Two children.
As I said, it's your choice now but do you think it wise to advocate the continuation of none vital or necessary work and risk putting even more people at risk?

But if your friend worked in a safe manner following the guidelines it is highly unlikely that he got the symptoms from working.

[CleanClear]

Hey Tosh, this would back up what you say...... Looks like you can remain open as usual.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-to-employers-and-businesses-about-covid-19/guidance-for-employers-and-businesses-on-coronavirus-covid-19#keeping-your-business-open

[Jonny 87]

I'm just pleased it's not me that's actually advocating, promoting and encouraging people to go out and work in these circumstances.
 I'm not that stupid or irresponsible, nor would I wish to shoulder the possible results and consequences of such actions. But hey ho, neither am I a forum hero!

**hysterical post alert**

This just shows what panic can do to people, until now Iv always found Peavey to be one of the more level headed on here, blunt at times but level headed.

Here's the thing, and this is true, I have no reason to lie-
Apart from 4 of my family members being currently infected with covid19, earlier today I recieved a message from my friend and fellow window cleaner informing me that he is now self isolating with all the symptoms of covid19. 8 days ago, me and him were having the exact same discussion that is now happening here, in this thread. I stayed at home, he went to work!
It wasn't absolutely necessary or vital that he worked last week, nor would it have been this coming week. I can only hope that he has to experience mild symptoms, he's married with Two children.
As I said, it's your choice now but do you think it wise to advocate the continuation of none vital or necessary work and risk putting even more people at risk?

But if your friend worked in a safe manner following the guidelines it is highly unlikely that he got the symptoms from working.

More than likely he got it in tesco.

[Dry Clean]

I'm just pleased it's not me that's actually advocating, promoting and encouraging people to go out and work in these circumstances.
 I'm not that stupid or irresponsible, nor would I wish to shoulder the possible results and consequences of such actions. But hey ho, neither am I a forum hero!

**hysterical post alert**

This just shows what panic can do to people, until now Iv always found Peavey to be one of the more level headed on here, blunt at times but level headed.

Here's the thing, and this is true, I have no reason to lie-
Apart from 4 of my family members being currently infected with covid19, earlier today I recieved a message from my friend and fellow window cleaner informing me that he is now self isolating with all the symptoms of covid19. 8 days ago, me and him were having the exact same discussion that is now happening here, in this thread. I stayed at home, he went to work!
It wasn't absolutely necessary or vital that he worked last week, nor would it have been this coming week. I can only hope that he has to experience mild symptoms, he's married with Two children.
As I said, it's your choice now but do you think it wise to advocate the continuation of none vital or necessary work and risk putting even more people at risk?

Iv worked all week and haven't come in contact or less than 2 metres with a single person, mainly because many of them are still working, ill sleep soundly tonight in the knowledge that my actions will not have harmed anybody.

[Missing Link]

Hey Tosh, this would back up what you say...... Looks like you can remain open as usual.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-to-employers-and-businesses-about-covid-19/guidance-for-employers-and-businesses-on-coronavirus-covid-19#keeping-your-business-open

It can't be any clearer than that, thanks.

However you know the moonhowlers will still be like "But but but".

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

I'm just pleased it's not me that's actually advocating, promoting and encouraging people to go out and work in these circumstances.
 I'm not that stupid or irresponsible, nor would I wish to shoulder the possible results and consequences of such actions. But hey ho, neither am I a forum hero!

**hysterical post alert**

This just shows what panic can do to people, until now Iv always found Peavey to be one of the more level headed on here, blunt at times but level headed.

Here's the thing, and this is true, I have no reason to lie-
Apart from 4 of my family members being currently infected with covid19, earlier today I recieved a message from my friend and fellow window cleaner informing me that he is now self isolating with all the symptoms of covid19. 8 days ago, me and him were having the exact same discussion that is now happening here, in this thread. I stayed at home, he went to work!
It wasn't absolutely necessary or vital that he worked last week, nor would it have been this coming week. I can only hope that he has to experience mild symptoms, he's married with Two children.
As I said, it's your choice now but do you think it wise to advocate the continuation of none vital or necessary work and risk putting even more people at risk?

Sorry to hear a few have been struck with it close to you.

The odds are they will pull through it no problem though! As do the vast majority of people.

I feel like I’m Banging a steel drum,  but we are all going to get this. For most it’s just a cold.

👍
And if if it isn't?
Maybe he's not so lucky?
Maybe I could have been a bit more "hysterical" 8 days ago and potentially saved his life?
Just imagine how I would feel if the worst was to happen and I had indeed encouraged him to go to work. Go on lad, your country needs you, there's glass to shine- crack on 'till it's illegal.
I hope for everyone's sake here, I am just "hysterical"

[Missing Link]

👍
And if if it isn't?
Maybe he's not so lucky?
Maybe I could have been a bit more "hysterical" 8 days ago and potentially saved his life?
Just imagine how I would feel if the worst was to happen and I had indeed encouraged him to go to work. Go on lad, your country needs you, there's glass to shine- crack on 'till it's illegal.
I hope for everyone's sake here, I am just "hysterical"

"But but but..."

More arguments from emotion.

They're my absolute favourites. 

[Jonny 87]

I'm just pleased it's not me that's actually advocating, promoting and encouraging people to go out and work in these circumstances.
 I'm not that stupid or irresponsible, nor would I wish to shoulder the possible results and consequences of such actions. But hey ho, neither am I a forum hero!

**hysterical post alert**

This just shows what panic can do to people, until now Iv always found Peavey to be one of the more level headed on here, blunt at times but level headed.

Here's the thing, and this is true, I have no reason to lie-
Apart from 4 of my family members being currently infected with covid19, earlier today I recieved a message from my friend and fellow window cleaner informing me that he is now self isolating with all the symptoms of covid19. 8 days ago, me and him were having the exact same discussion that is now happening here, in this thread. I stayed at home, he went to work!
It wasn't absolutely necessary or vital that he worked last week, nor would it have been this coming week. I can only hope that he has to experience mild symptoms, he's married with Two children.
As I said, it's your choice now but do you think it wise to advocate the continuation of none vital or necessary work and risk putting even more people at risk?

Sorry to hear a few have been struck with it close to you.

The odds are they will pull through it no problem though! As do the vast majority of people.

I feel like I’m Banging a steel drum,  but we are all going to get this. For most it’s just a cold.

👍
And if if it isn't?
Maybe he's not so lucky?
Maybe I could have been a bit more "hysterical" 8 days ago and potentially saved his life?
Just imagine how I would feel if the worst was to happen and I had indeed encouraged him to go to work. Go on lad, your country needs you, there's glass to shine- crack on 'till it's illegal.
I hope for everyone's sake here, I am just "hysterical"

I hope so too.

I think it’s one of these things that because it’s all we hear all day long it makes people paranoid.

1500 people die every month in the uk with flu, but we don’t shield ourselves or scare people that there is a silent killer, like a wolf waiting at the door for them as soon as they leave.

I firmly believe mental health will be a far bigger killer than covid-19...... as a direct result of fear and panic spreading across the nation.

[CleanClear]

It can't be any clearer than that, thanks.

However you know the moonhowlers will still be like "But but but".

I'm not so sure its going to be that clear cut though. The Police are saying something else:

[Missing Link]

It can't be any clearer than that, thanks.

However you know the moonhowlers will still be like "But but but".

I'm not so sure its going to be that clear cut though. The Police are saying something else:

Then they'll need to be educated.

The key/critical worker thing is a designation which allows them to get childcare.  That's it.

[CleanClear]

I'm not going out anyway, but i think no matter what the Gov. website says Police will send people home. It will be confusion, well not "be" it is !!

[Missing Link]

I'm not going out anyway, but i think no matter what the Gov. website says Police will send people home. It will be confusion, well not "be" it is !!

They've got a pinned post with the gov guidelines on it.  Surely they can read?

Are your tweets old ones when the policy was new out and they were confused?

[NBwcs]

Jesus lads it's time to draw a line under this, the rest of the country are pulling together and we're having  more fallouts over this than we did when the WAHD came in. It's crystal clear that the government want us to work, it's also crystal clear that if people choose to go a step further and lock down earlier then that's also 100% right too. It's on your doorstep now, if you don't know people with it yet you very soon will do, time for a bit of mutual respect, no body's wrong. Cmon boys, we're in this together.

[CleanClear]

I'm not going out anyway, but i think no matter what the Gov. website says Police will send people home. It will be confusion, well not "be" it is !!

They've got a pinned post with the gov guidelines on it.  Surely they can read?

Are you tweets old ones when the policy was new out and they were confused?

No mate, you can go see them on the Merseyside FB page. Hows this for strange though, i seen a post from Nantwich Police Facebook where they had sent a lanscape gardener/ jetwasher home. Then the picture and post was gone, and then this...

[KS Cleaning]

I'm not going out anyway, but i think no matter what the Gov. website says Police will send people home. It will be confusion, well not "be" it is !!

It’s just as well I’ve got the video of Nicola Sturgeons speech on my phone then, there will definitely be no confusion here 😉

[Missing Link]

Sounds like the coppers are getting themselves confused.

[CleanClear]

Read that: (and the replies)
https://twitter.com/PoliceNantwich/status/1244209537567121408

[dd]

I think for the majority of sensible people it's a question of "should" I go to work and not whether they "can" or are "allowed" to  go.
There is a silent, invisible and indiscriminate killer prowling the streets of our country. It's everywhere, it's all around you now and it's sole purpose is to infect you and your loved ones- then for you and them infect others and theirs. The evidence is in your face, 24/7, humans are dropping like flies. Entire countries are grinding to a halt like no other time in history. Our own country are building gigantic temporary mortuarys,  field hospitals etc right now! We don't even have enough medical staff, beds or machines to even remotely deal with what's about to happen and IS already happening all around us. It's there for you all to see, right now. No excuses, own the responsibility as it's yours and yours alone now.
So, if you fancy your chances for the sake of One or Two weeks extra wages, then knock yourself out.👍

**hysterical post alert**

Unfortunately, because of idiots like you, lives will be lost.

You too are causing problems and death, just further down the line. They recon austerity killed 100000. If everyone behaved like you are advocating, downing tools and taking 1000's off the government you will kill people, just it'll be in a year or two.

Last week I listened to an interview with a professor from Bristol University.

He published a study that indicated because there is a link between GDP (basically the prosperity of a nation) and life expectancy - in a nutshell if the economy is too damaged more lives will be lost through this impact than Covid 19.

Too damaged? Did he specify how much damage is too much?
How many windows do we have to not clean before the economy becomes too damaged?
That'd be very helpful and I could plan my work around it.

I think the figure he calculated was that if GDP fell by 6.4% or more that would lead to the greater loss of life.

The point being that lives will be lost through the damage to our economy.

If you work or stay at home is a personal choice. Anyone who castigates others for working whilst adhering to government guidelines is wrong though.

[KS Cleaning]

To be honest, by this time next week I think there will be a new directive and we will all be stopped from working........The debate should we, shouldn’t we, will be no more.......the forum will once again return to  being a boring place😖

[dd]

To be honest, by this time next week I think there will be a new directive and we will all be stopped from working........The debate should we, shouldn’t we, will be no more.......the forum will once again return to  being a boring place😖

I would be quite happy with that (relieved, apart from going stir crazy at home) but until then feel I should try and do some work.

[Dry Clean]

Problem is carbon emissions are now at an all time low which means those who would normally be protesting on top of electric trains are now free to annoy shiners trying to do a days graft.

[Ooooooog]

It can't be any clearer than that, thanks.

However you know the moonhowlers will still be like "But but but".

I'm not so sure its going to be that clear cut though. The Police are saying something else:

No jobs up there anyway.

[The Jester of Wibbly]

If your customer is happy for you to clean crack on.  If they don't, miss them out. It's the best way to retain your customers.

If you get a complaint from a neighbour l would  just inform them you are working to the guidlines set by government.  Tell them they are the ones breaking the rules for leaving their home to attack you.  Advise them to call the police if they still have an issue and to leave you alone.

[Dry Clean]

To be honest, by this time next week I think there will be a new directive and we will all be stopped from working........The debate should we, shouldn’t we, will be no more.......the forum will once again return to  being a boring place😖

I'm not sure KS, at this moment in time you're only entitled to the 80% for employees or other if you have lost business due to the actions of the government or have been forced to close, walking away from work doesn't qualify which is why a lot so called non essential factories and businesses are still open, the cost to force these businesses to close doesn't bear thinking about.

[deeege]

I can’t help but think that the governments big u-turn from originally saying only those with ‘essential jobs’ should be working, to now saying ‘where it’s not possible to work from home’ is just a massive caveat. They’ll use this further down the line to not pay out the 80% to the self employed that they think should now be out earning.

It’s just so un-Tory like to pay out and effectively be giving people a pay rise that are working through it.

I think there’s going to be a lot of disappointed people come June/July.

[G Griffin]

It can't be any clearer than that, thanks.

However you know the moonhowlers will still be like "But but but".

I'm not so sure its going to be that clear cut though. The Police are saying something else:

No jobs up there anyway.

But the police don't bother us. They know their place.

[G Griffin]

I can’t help but think that the governments big u-turn from originally saying only those with ‘essential jobs’ should be working, to now saying ‘where it’s not possible to work from home’ is just a massive caveat. They’ll use this further down the line to not pay out the 80% to the self employed that they think should now be out earning.

It’s just so un-Tory like to pay out and effectively be giving people a pay rise that are working through it.

I think there’s going to be a lot of disappointed people come June/July.

How will they know that we're not out earning?

[KS Cleaning]

To be honest, by this time next week I think there will be a new directive and we will all be stopped from working........The debate should we, shouldn’t we, will be no more.......the forum will once again return to  being a boring place😖

I'm not sure KS, at this moment in time you're only entitled to the 80% for employees or other if you have lost business due to the actions of the government or have been forced to close, walking away from work doesn't qualify which is why a lot so called non essential factories and businesses are still open, the cost to force these businesses to close doesn't bear thinking about.

Good point Sean, but they delayed social distancing for the same reasons, until it was no longer viable to do so. At this minute in time you could say that we are on a soft lockdown, IMO there will come a time very soon when we are put on a far tougher lockdown, which in turn will mean as window cleaners we are no longer permitted to work. I will be delighted if I’ve got this wrong tho🤞

[Jonny 87]

To be honest, I don’t know if a harsh lockdown will
Come.

People just need to follow the things put in place. They might be more forceful about the measures already in place, policing streets more.

I hope I’m wrong but I think we will always “technically” be allowed to work, and this will mean that we don’t get this 80% grant.

Who knows though.

[deeege]

I can’t help but think that the governments big u-turn from originally saying only those with ‘essential jobs’ should be working, to now saying ‘where it’s not possible to work from home’ is just a massive caveat. They’ll use this further down the line to not pay out the 80% to the self employed that they think should now be out earning.

It’s just so un-Tory like to pay out and effectively be giving people a pay rise that are working through it.

I think there’s going to be a lot of disappointed people come June/July.

How will they know that we're not out earning?

I don’t think they’ll care tbh. I don’t just mean the ones are at home won’t get paid, I mean the ones who are working also. Basically everyone they think could be working.

They’ve also left themselves wiggle room by saying there’s 5% that won’t get taken care of.

I’m not anti Tory btw, I voted for them the last 3 elections, I’m just being realistic.

Giving people 80% of their averages profit, aswell as allowing them to carry on earning thus actually making more money from the pandemic than they would normally just seems incredibly generous to me.

(Unless of course, they planned this all along to enable a mega strict lock down that bans all but essential work)

[KS Cleaning]

I can’t help but think that the governments big u-turn from originally saying only those with ‘essential jobs’ should be working, to now saying ‘where it’s not possible to work from home’ is just a massive caveat. They’ll use this further down the line to not pay out the 80% to the self employed that they think should now be out earning.

It’s just so un-Tory like to pay out and effectively be giving people a pay rise that are working through it.

I think there’s going to be a lot of disappointed people come June/July.

I think the government know full well that there won’t be many self employed people working at all when tougher measures come in. If they thought for a minute a lot of self employed people would be able to continue to work throughout the pandemic there is absolutely no way this grant would have been offered.

[p1w1]

I can’t help but think that the governments big u-turn from originally saying only those with ‘essential jobs’ should be working, to now saying ‘where it’s not possible to work from home’ is just a massive caveat. They’ll use this further down the line to not pay out the 80% to the self employed that they think should now be out earning.

It’s just so un-Tory like to pay out and effectively be giving people a pay rise that are working through it.

I think there’s going to be a lot of disappointed people come June/July.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I have never seen it said only those with "essential jobs" should be working. It's been made clear what the Government's proposal was in regarding help for the self-employed for those who qualify and what the current criteria are to qualify.

[dazmond]

I think for the majority of sensible people it's a question of "should" I go to work and not whether they "can" or are "allowed" to  go.
There is a silent, invisible and indiscriminate killer prowling the streets of our country. It's everywhere, it's all around you now and it's sole purpose is to infect you and your loved ones- then for you and them infect others and theirs. The evidence is in your face, 24/7, humans are dropping like flies. Entire Nations are grinding to a halt like no other time in history. Our own country are building gigantic temporary mortuarys,  field hospitals etc right now! We don't even have enough medical staff, beds or machines to even remotely deal with what's about to happen and IS already happening all around us. It's there for you all to see, right now. No excuses, own the responsibility as it's yours and yours alone now.
So, if you fancy your chances for the sake of One or Two weeks extra wages, then knock yourself out.👍

You'll be off for longer than 3 or 4 weeks mate!even if 20,000 people die its way lower than 0.5% of the population.....sad but not a total disaster.......stop making out that most of us will die mate...its not helpful to anyone.....

[The Jester of Wibbly]

I can't see anything changing in the rules for at least another two weeks.  Boris said these restrictions are in place for 3 weeks and then it will be reviewed.

By this time they will then either extend the current restrictions further, or make them stricter.   It will take 2 or 3 weeks to see if these measures are working or not.   Nothing will change for another 2 weeks. Remember he is not trying to stop the virus, just slow it down.

I can see this going on for 4 to 6 months

[G Griffin]

I can’t help but think that the governments big u-turn from originally saying only those with ‘essential jobs’ should be working, to now saying ‘where it’s not possible to work from home’ is just a massive caveat. They’ll use this further down the line to not pay out the 80% to the self employed that they think should now be out earning.

It’s just so un-Tory like to pay out and effectively be giving people a pay rise that are working through it.

I think there’s going to be a lot of disappointed people come June/July.

How will they know that we're not out earning?

I don’t think they’ll care tbh. I don’t just mean the ones are at home won’t get paid, I mean the ones who are working also. Basically everyone they think could be working.

They’ve also left themselves wiggle room by saying there’s 5% that won’t get taken care of.

I’m not anti Tory btw, I voted for them the last 3 elections, I’m just being realistic.

Giving people 80% of their averages profit, aswell as allowing them to carry on earning thus actually making more money from the pandemic than they would normally just seems incredibly generous to me.

(Unless of course, they planned this all along to enable a mega strict lock down that bans all but essential work)

I'm not sure about that.
A lot of us have been affected by the virus and that's what the grant is for.

I agree with your last sentence though.
I think that's what is for. You get the money and there's no comebacks if there is a stricter lockdown.
A concern is, what if it goes beyond June? I don't think it'll be as generous next time.
Let's hope we don't need it.

[Missing Link]

I can't see anything changing in the rules for at least another two weeks.  Boris said these restrictions are in place for 3 weeks and then it will be reviewed.

I've read a report citing Imperial Collage London which estimates UK peak Covid-19 day as the 5th April.  If true the numbers of deaths should decrease from then.

13th April is the government's review day; it's bank holiday Easter; though I'm sure they'll have made a decision prior.

[James Styles]

I can see this going on for 4 to 6 months

Bloody hope not! It’s a nightmare

[Missing Link]

I think for the majority of sensible people it's a question of "should" I go to work and not whether they "can" or are "allowed" to  go.
There is a silent, invisible and indiscriminate killer prowling the streets of our country. It's everywhere, it's all around you now and it's sole purpose is to infect you and your loved ones- then for you and them infect others and theirs. The evidence is in your face, 24/7, humans are dropping like flies. Entire Nations are grinding to a halt like no other time in history. Our own country are building gigantic temporary mortuarys,  field hospitals etc right now! We don't even have enough medical staff, beds or machines to even remotely deal with what's about to happen and IS already happening all around us. It's there for you all to see, right now. No excuses, own the responsibility as it's yours and yours alone now.
So, if you fancy your chances for the sake of One or Two weeks extra wages, then knock yourself out.👍

You'll be off for longer than 3 or 4 weeks mate!even if 20,000 people die its way lower than 0.5% of the population.....sad but not a total disaster.......stop making out that most of us will die mate...its not helpful to anyone.....

In 2018, there were 541,589 deaths registered in England and Wales (I can't find the totals for the whole of the UK and can't be arsed to google NI and Scotland too).

So that means on a normal year we average 1489 deaths per day just in England and Wales.  (Interestingly enough I just googled to see the birth rate and we had 200,000 more births than deaths in 2018.)

I don't think some people comprehend what being part of a population that's 67 million means.

[CleanClear]

I've read a report citing Imperial Collage London which estimates UK peak Covid-19 day as the 5th April.  If true the numbers of deaths should decrease from then.

I think its largely accepted thats incorrect now.


This is not behind their paywall, interesting graph:
https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest

[Missing Link]

This is not behind their paywall, interesting graph:
https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest

Cheers for the link; just reading it now.

I don't believe we can believe China's figures:

death tolls growing more quickly in Italy, Spain, the UK and US than they did in China at the same stage of the outbreak.

But maybe they are right?  China was welding people into their houses.

But there was nothing in there that gives an alternative date for a UK peak of 5th April.  Which kinda makes sense to me; that's 14 days after our lockdown; time for the virus to get a grip on those who caught it last weekend when they were in pubs and massed in parks etc.

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

I think for the majority of sensible people it's a question of "should" I go to work and not whether they "can" or are "allowed" to  go.
There is a silent, invisible and indiscriminate killer prowling the streets of our country. It's everywhere, it's all around you now and it's sole purpose is to infect you and your loved ones- then for you and them infect others and theirs. The evidence is in your face, 24/7, humans are dropping like flies. Entire Nations are grinding to a halt like no other time in history. Our own country are building gigantic temporary mortuarys,  field hospitals etc right now! We don't even have enough medical staff, beds or machines to even remotely deal with what's about to happen and IS already happening all around us. It's there for you all to see, right now. No excuses, own the responsibility as it's yours and yours alone now.
So, if you fancy your chances for the sake of One or Two weeks extra wages, then knock yourself out.👍

You'll be off for longer than 3 or 4 weeks mate!even if 20,000 people die its way lower than 0.5% of the population.....sad but not a total disaster.......stop making out that most of us will die mate...its not helpful to anyone.....

Oh, I know I'll be off for more than 3 to 4 weeks Daz, the point being- is the little bit of extra wage you can gain just now worth the risk of catching it?
People die all the time, however, the world doesn't grind to halt within weeks because of flu! Statistics regarding normal death rates are meaningless. You should be worried.

[andyM]

As of tomorrow im starting my new job:
as an Essential Exterior Maintenance Business   

[CleanClear]

But there was nothing in there that gives an alternative date for a UK peak of 5th April.  Which kinda makes sense to me; that's 14 days after our lockdown; time for the virus to get a grip on those who caught it last weekend when they were in pubs and massed in parks etc.

I posted the info a couple of days ago. Imperial College report suggested a peak on 5th April with 260 deaths. We had 260 deaths two days a go i think, that dropped by 50 yesterday to about 210. See what todays figures are but the guy who gave the info the the Commons Comittee has posted some other info here:
https://twitter.com/neil_ferguson/status/1243294815200124928

[Missing Link]

Statistics regarding normal death rates are meaningless.

They do matter; I was reading a statistician's view on how we can work out how many people actually died from Covid-19 and annual death tolls will be needed.

Why?

Well people can die WITH covid-19 and not necessarily because of it.  There'll also be a lot of people who die without Covid-19, but died as a consequence of not being able to receive proper treatment (these are still Covid-19 victims).  And it's also difficult to know what people actually died of.

So the most accurate way to work out death totals - at some point in the future - is to average some previous years death totals and compare them over the same period when Covid-19 was killing the UK population.

[Missing Link]

But there was nothing in there that gives an alternative date for a UK peak of 5th April.  Which kinda makes sense to me; that's 14 days after our lockdown; time for the virus to get a grip on those who caught it last weekend when they were in pubs and massed in parks etc.

I posted the info a couple of days ago. Imperial College report suggested a peak on 5th April with 260 deaths. We had 260 deaths two days a go i think, that dropped by 50 yesterday to about 210. See what todays figures are but the guy who gave the info the the Commons Comittee has posted some other info here:
https://twitter.com/neil_ferguson/status/1243294815200124928

Interesting link and comments, cheers, keep posting them.

Today's death rate was 207:



Do you think it's possible it's peaked already? 

[CleanClear]

Do you think it's possible it's peaked already?

What makes me think it hasn't is the way they where talking at todays briefing and also they changed the way they reports the statistics now so there could be a blip from that. Need a few more days to really tell i think but i can't see anything  anywhere to suggest we won't be headed on the same track as Spain, Italy etc... Bear in mind i know there has been lots said about Italy having an ageing population but also they only locked down after 800 deaths ? No sure about Spain.

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

Statistics regarding normal death rates are meaningless.

They do matter; I was reading a statistician's view on how we can work out how many people actually died from Covid-19 and annual death tolls will be needed.

Why?

Well people can die WITH covid-19 and not necessarily because of it.  There'll also be a lot of people who die without Covid-19, but died as a consequence of not being able to receive proper treatment (these are still Covid-19 victims).  And it's also difficult to know what people actually died of.

So the most accurate way to work out death totals - at some point in the future - is to average some previous years death totals and compare them over the same period when Covid-19 was killing the UK population.

Meaningless in regards to the fact that they will not change the risk, danger and results of covid19 now and in the next few weeks.

[Missing Link]

Meaningless in regards to the fact that they will not change the risk, danger and results of covid19 now and in the next few weeks.

Yes, I agree.

I think the situation is going to remain pretty much as it is - with regards the lockdown - till mid April.

[Missing Link]

but i can't see anything  anywhere to suggest we won't be headed on the same track as Spain, Italy etc...

I don't think we will.  We don't have close family ties like they do over there with multiple generations living and eating together. 

And silly as it sounds, we don't do the cheek kissing thing either.

[G Griffin]

but i can't see anything  anywhere to suggest we won't be headed on the same track as Spain, Italy etc...

I don't think we will.  We don't have close family ties like they do over there with multiple generations living and eating together. 

And silly as it sounds, we don't do the cheek kissing thing either.

They don't have as many Tesco store either.

[Missing Link]

but i can't see anything  anywhere to suggest we won't be headed on the same track as Spain, Italy etc...

I don't think we will.  We don't have close family ties like they do over there with multiple generations living and eating together. 

And silly as it sounds, we don't do the cheek kissing thing either.

They don't have as many Tesco store either.

I thought you were teaching your little lad plurals?

[G Griffin]

but i can't see anything  anywhere to suggest we won't be headed on the same track as Spain, Italy etc...

I don't think we will.  We don't have close family ties like they do over there with multiple generations living and eating together. 

And silly as it sounds, we don't do the cheek kissing thing either.

They don't have as many Tesco store either.

I thought you were teaching your little lad plurals?

Liar!
I said I'd teach you. You spotted that ones that I set for you.
Well done.

[Smudger]

Excuse the language.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BA9eTXwGIk

Darran

[davids3511]

I think for the majority of sensible people it's a question of "should" I go to work and not whether they "can" or are "allowed" to  go.
There is a silent, invisible and indiscriminate killer prowling the streets of our country. It's everywhere, it's all around you now and it's sole purpose is to infect you and your loved ones- then for you and them infect others and theirs. The evidence is in your face, 24/7, humans are dropping like flies. Entire countries are grinding to a halt like no other time in history. Our own country are building gigantic temporary mortuarys,  field hospitals etc right now! We don't even have enough medical staff, beds or machines to even remotely deal with what's about to happen and IS already happening all around us. It's there for you all to see, right now. No excuses, own the responsibility as it's yours and yours alone now.
So, if you fancy your chances for the sake of One or Two weeks extra wages, then knock yourself out.👍

**hysterical post alert**

Unfortunately, because of idiots like you, lives will be lost.

You too are causing problems and death, just further down the line. They recon austerity killed 100000. If everyone behaved like you are advocating, downing tools and taking 1000's off the government you will kill people, just it'll be in a year or two.

*Hysterical post alert*.

Oh no, just an emotive one like most of yours.

[harleyman]

banzai you are a ignorant shyte stirrer you just instergate arguments and sit back and p your self laughing. grow up

[Klean07]

I was out doing a couple of very short days last week and found no problem with the custys its the busy body brigade that's the worrying thing pointing fingers and shouting abuse at us because we were out working. One of my faceache so called friends even accused me of being greedy for going out to work!

[Granny]

I used to watch Comedy Unleashed on U tube now I come on here, it's b****y hilarious.

[james peters]

ffs ….. guys .. this isn't about what customers want...…
we all want and want things
we all want to work … we have all been moving foreward
stay at home

[Soupy]

We've not reached peak curve on the Covid-19 virus posts yet, but this is worth pointing out...



https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do

Which is what I've been saying all along.

[Jonny 87]

ffs ….. guys .. this isn't about what customers want...…
we all want and want things
we all want to work … we have all been moving foreward
stay at home

Can’t resist replying. 

Wether window cleaners stay at home or not...... we will continue to move forward. We are in lockdown. No shopping, no restaurants, no social
Activities, no getting together with our families.

Im gonna go out on a lim....... window cleaners working safely will not contribute to the spread of covid-19.

[Ooooooog]

Mask of the red death or whatever it was called.

[pikeman]

Chris whitty  chief medical officer is on the tv every few hours one of the reasons to be out of the house is to go to work. 

[CleanClear]

banzai you are a ignorant shyte stirrer you just instergate arguments and sit back and p your self laughing. grow up

He does that on a good day, i never expected him to change !!   

[Missing Link]

Oh no, just an emotive one like most of yours.

Not really, Og, I suspect you don't know what an appeal to emotion really is.

It's form of pearl-clutching hysterics where someone will shout "But think of the children!"

Pointing out what the government guidelines actually say and the reasoning behind them is taking a rational and logical point of view.

Calling someone a stupid idiot is not emotional either; facts are facts; not emotions.

You stupid idiot. 

[Missing Link]

Chris whitty  chief medical officer is on the tv every few hours one of the reasons to be out of the house is to go to work.

Yeh, but that's science 'n' all that.  Half of this lot here know better than some pointy head.

[CleanClear]

Oh no, just an emotive one like most of yours.

Not really, Og, I suspect you don't know what an appeal to emotion really is.

It's form of pearl-clutching hysterics where someone will shout "But think of the children!"

Pointing out what the government guidelines actually say and the reasoning behind them is taking a rational and logical point of view.

Calling someone a stupid idiot is not emotional either; facts are facts; not emotions.

You stupid idiot. 

You're not replying to Og, idiot.

[Missing Link]

You're not replying to Og, idiot.

I ought to wear my reading glasses. 

But the post is every bit as daft as one of Og's.

[Ooooooog]

Oh no, just an emotive one like most of yours.

Not really, Og, I suspect you don't know what an appeal to emotion really is.

It's form of pearl-clutching hysterics where someone will shout "But think of the children!"

Pointing out what the government guidelines actually say and the reasoning behind them is taking a rational and logical point of view.

Calling someone a stupid idiot is not emotional either; facts are facts; not emotions.

You stupid idiot. 

You dribbling again?

[Missing Link]

You dribbling again?

'Fraid so.

Apologies to you for calling you stupid.

[davids3511]

Oh no, just an emotive one like most of yours.

Not really, Og, I suspect you don't know what an appeal to emotion really is.

It's form of pearl-clutching hysterics where someone will shout "But think of the children!"

Pointing out what the government guidelines actually say and the reasoning behind them is taking a rational and logical point of view.

Calling someone a stupid idiot is not emotional either; facts are facts; not emotions.

You stupid idiot. 

Youre getting confused Tosh and replying to the wrong post.

[Missing Link]

Youre getting confused Tosh and replying to the wrong post.

Yes, mate, I did.  Well done for spotting that before anyone else.

You stupid idiot.

[davids3511]

Youre getting confused Tosh and replying to the wrong post.

Yes, mate, I did.  Well done for spotting that before anyone else.

You stupid idiot.

I can't keep up!

[G Griffin]

I think for the majority of sensible people it's a question of "should" I go to work and not whether they "can" or are "allowed" to  go.
There is a silent, invisible and indiscriminate killer prowling the streets of our country. It's everywhere, it's all around you now and it's sole purpose is to infect you and your loved ones- then for you and them infect others and theirs. The evidence is in your face, 24/7, humans are dropping like flies. Entire countries are grinding to a halt like no other time in history. Our own country are building gigantic temporary mortuarys,  field hospitals etc right now! We don't even have enough medical staff, beds or machines to even remotely deal with what's about to happen and IS already happening all around us. It's there for you all to see, right now. No excuses, own the responsibility as it's yours and yours alone now.
So, if you fancy your chances for the sake of One or Two weeks extra wages, then knock yourself out.👍

**hysterical post alert**

Unfortunately, because of idiots like you, lives will be lost.

You too are causing problems and death, just further down the line. They recon austerity killed 100000. If everyone behaved like you are advocating, downing tools and taking 1000's off the government you will kill people, just it'll be in a year or two.

*Hysterical post alert*.

Oh no, just an emotive one like most of yours.

Hmmm, emotive. I'll Take That, Babe.
But most of mine are not emotive because Everything Changes, Never Forget that.

[G Griffin]

Im gonna go out on a lim....... window cleaners working safely will not contribute to the spread of covid-19.

Someone has already beaten you to that little gem. And he claims The Chief Medical Officer backs him up.
Perhaps you could make up a slogan.

I had a window cleaning mate with a similar attitude. Addicted to sugar. Always eating Bounty bars, chocolate raisins and marshmallows. I warned him about diabetes but he said he was immune and that it wouldn't spread in the window cleaning fraternity. But he did catch diabetes and had to have a leg amputated. I picked him up from the hostipal and got him a wheelchair but he wouldn't have it. Pig headed, as ever, he even refused crutches and said he'd get to the car by himself.
He went out on a limb.

Stay safe.

[Dave Willis]

Oh yeah? If that was true he wouldn’t have a leg to stand on!

[G Griffin]

Oh yeah? If that was true he wouldn’t have a leg to stand on!

Oh it's true, Dave. And now he's locked down with no visitors and is getting depressed. Window cleaners, past and present, are not immune to the pandemic.
I promised him when this is all over, I'll go round and we'll have a good old knee up and get well and truly legless.

[Jonny 87]

Oh yeah? If that was true he wouldn’t have a leg to stand on!

Oh it's true, Dave. And now he's locked down with no visitors and is getting depressed. Window cleaners, past and present, are not immune to the pandemic.
I promised him when this is all over, I'll go round and we'll have a good old knee up and get well and truly legless.

Tell you what, he made the right decision. If he came round to my house to try and clean windows with all this corona going on, I’d tell him to hop it.

[tlwcs]

Not sure if this has been posted here

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/30/can-window-cleaners-gardeners-work-lockdown-coronavirus-uk-12479045/?ito=cbshare&fbclid=IwAR1HyW6oURnCEp377oLY0ybBcwiWGFF0ITQKawPizjkrdeFreUaPJPk_RWY

[NWH]

At least he still has a leg to get over 🤣