[Bungle]

Told my customers that I was suspending my business as of Monday night due to the current circumstances and above all my morals.

I have had over 150 replies and ALL have them have sent their best wishes. I have not lost one customer.

Two have even sent money to tide me over. One of them is a £15 job and he sent me £60.

I have done the right thing for me, my family and my business.

Do what is right!

Thank you, Bungle.

[LT carpet cleaning]

Nice one. Doing the right thing and being unselfish will always result in good karma.

[Jonny 87]

“Do the right thing”.  ?

 


Yawn.

[Slacky]

Told my customers that I was suspending my business as of Monday night due to the current circumstances and above all my morals.

I have had over 150 replies and ALL have them have sent their best wishes. I have not lost one customer.

Two have even sent money to tide me over. One of them is a £15 job and he sent me £60.

I have done the right thing for me, my family and my business.

Do what is right!

Thank you, Bungle.

That’s great, it’s always lovely to have thoughtful, considerate and generous, understanding customers.

[Slacky]

Now donate to James’s crowdfunding.

 

[G Griffin]

“Do the right thing”.  ?

 


Yawn.

Does Bungle doing the right thing, for him, bother you, Jonny?
There's a bit of doubt in your head, isn't there?

[Bungle]

“Do the right thing”.  ?

 


Yawn.

If you’re that desperate for a few quid then crack on. I’m not stopping you.

[Jay Le Huray]

gonna do the same myself, most likely over the weekend

[Jonny 87]

“Do the right thing”.  ?

 


Yawn.

Does Bungle doing the right thing, for him, bother you, Jonny?
There's a bit of doubt in your head, isn't there?

Your 100%  right.  I’m doubtful.

I’m doubting that surely there can’t be that many self righteous people out there as there seems to be. People that are condescending and are effecting peoples mental health by putting pressure on them to stop supporting their family.

I’m undecided, but so far it seems like actually there are that many unkind and self righteous people out there that want to force their opinions onto others.

I feel for the ones struggling at the moment and being convinced by social pressure rather than government guidelines.

[G Griffin]

“Do the right thing”.  ?

 


Yawn.

Does Bungle doing the right thing, for him, bother you, Jonny?
There's a bit of doubt in your head, isn't there?

Your 100%  right.  I’m doubtful.

I’m doubting that surely there can’t be that many self righteous people out there as there seems to be. People that are condescending and are effecting peoples mental health by putting pressure on them to stop supporting their family.

I’m undecided, but so far it seems like actually there are that many unkind and self righteous people out there that want to force their opinions onto others.

I feel for the ones struggling at the moment and being convinced by social pressure rather than government guidelines.

I didn't think the 'pressure' was that bad and if it is affecting your mental health, I apologise if I was one of those responsible. Sincerely.
But it's not just down to us. We haven't stirred the nation up, have we? Boris and his government have to take a lot of that responsibility after Monday's speech. It was very dramatic and he hung us out to dry. You can't deliver a speech like that and then let others whisper 'you can still work, you know'.
I still think many of us are still in limbo and I understand if it is absolutely necessary for some to work.
But keep in mind why there is this dilemma and stay safe, for everyone's sake.

[dd]

For those saying we should down tools, what about when, as it seems, likely Coronavirus comes back in the winter and is possibly something we will have to learn to live with?

A lot of scientists expect it to mutate and be around for some years to come.

[Jonny 87]

“Do the right thing”.  ?

 


Yawn.

Does Bungle doing the right thing, for him, bother you, Jonny?
There's a bit of doubt in your head, isn't there?

Your 100%  right.  I’m doubtful.

I’m doubting that surely there can’t be that many self righteous people out there as there seems to be. People that are condescending and are effecting peoples mental health by putting pressure on them to stop supporting their family.

I’m undecided, but so far it seems like actually there are that many unkind and self righteous people out there that want to force their opinions onto others.

I feel for the ones struggling at the moment and being convinced by social pressure rather than government guidelines.

I didn't think the 'pressure' was that bad and if it is affecting your mental health, I apologise if I was one of those responsible. Sincerely.
But it's not just down to us. We haven't stirred the nation up, have we? Boris and his government have to take a lot of that responsibility after Monday's speech. It was very dramatic and he hung us out to dry. You can't deliver a speech like that and then let others whisper 'you can still work, you know'.
I still think many of us are still in limbo and I understand if it is absolutely necessary for some to work.
But keep in mind why there is this dilemma and stay safe, for everyone's sake.

I appreciate your apology griff, and honestly it’s not necessary, there’s no hard feelings. My mental health is fine, but I know others who are really struggling at the moment and I really worry about them. (Including some on this forum may I add)

They have been told by other window cleaners and “no it alls” that if they go out to work then they are spreading a killer virus and are terrible people. This is just not true.

It’s putting people in the dilemma of going out to work to support their family, or to down tools and start missing bills, and not being able to care for their family. What effect is that going to have on someone?

I do feel that everyone should take responsibility for their actions, including those who feel it’s appropriate to tell others how to follow the governmental guidelines, and ones who are purposefully trying to pressure others into not working.

It’s not on guys.

We’ve each got a personal decision to make, and we should each respect and support that decision.

We have two options;

1) don’t work, live off savings, hopefully receive a payout in June.

2) if you can’t afford to down tools for 3 months Atleast, then work safely, adhere to the guidelines and stay safe.

[G Griffin]

For those saying we should down tools, what about when, as it seems, likely Coronavirus comes back in the winter and is possibly something we will have to learn to live with?

A lot of scientists expect it to mutate and be around for some years to come.

Some have no choice but to down tools; a lot of their work has dried up. Some can't get to their work because of other commitments.
Some are choosing not to because it doesn't feel right. Yet.
You don't have to down tools any more than some of us have to pick them up.

Winter? Who knows? We're only just starting with it now. Just because we are allowed to work and there's a package to help us out doesn't mean that this thing is over.

[CleanClear]

I got it wrong, sorry. I've now got clarity:

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses

[Steven Biggs]

I also sent a mass text out on Wednesday evening . 700 custys. Explaining we would be carrying on cleaning as normal .if anyone would like to be put on hold , please let me know and it’s not a problem.if I don’t hear from you we will clean as normal .  no need to meet anyone , all pay by bacs .       So far had about 200 replies . 3 asking to be put on hold . The rest saying carry on . Although I said no need to reply unless suspending our service . So all positive . I only had Tuesday and Wednesday off this week until I worked out which way to go .

[Bungle]

I got it wrong, sorry. I've now got clarity:

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses

Have you seen the date on that memo? Written 18 days ago.

[andyM]

I don't think the Date is the important bit.
Look and read it again....... 

[Shrek]

I don't think the Date is the important bit.
Look and read it again....... 

Window cleaners can help spread it wtf 

[Slacky]

I don't think the Date is the important bit.
Look and read it again....... 

It is important.

It was written 18 days ago and nothings changed. Some are moaning the Govt keep changing their stance, not there they haven't.

 

[G Griffin]

Window cleaners are immune. We always miss out.
But 'it appears to pose a particular threat to middle-aged and older adults, particularly men' .

[KS Cleaning]

I don't think the Date is the important bit.
Look and read it again....... 

I noticed that too🙈🙈😂

[andyM]

Window cleaners can help spread it wtf 

There's not much we're good at.
But maybe this is our "calling".
Herd immunity and all that.... 

[jk999]

I started a thread a few days ago which my question wasn't answered so go on bungle how are we desperate because we chose to earn a living go on tell me because it infuriates me the likes of you explain

[nathankaye]

Yep, that lasted long 
But long enough for a refresh n chill.  My wife laughed at the drama queen comments though 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Anyway, just wantes to throw this into the debate as yesterday was my first day back.







Ok, you might be right about the drama queen lol.

[dd]

For those saying we should down tools, what about when, as it seems, likely Coronavirus comes back in the winter and is possibly something we will have to learn to live with?

A lot of scientists expect it to mutate and be around for some years to come.

Some have no choice but to down tools; a lot of their work has dried up. Some can't get to their work because of other commitments.
Some are choosing not to because it doesn't feel right. Yet.
You don't have to down tools any more than some of us have to pick them up.

Winter? Who knows? We're only just starting with it now. Just because we are allowed to work and there's a package to help us out doesn't mean that this thing is over.

It is obviously not over, but the expectation is that after a few months things will start going back to normal, but it is quite likely to come back.

[dazmond]

Told my customers that I was suspending my business as of Monday night due to the current circumstances and above all my morals.

I have had over 150 replies and ALL have them have sent their best wishes. I have not lost one customer.

Two have even sent money to tide me over. One of them is a £15 job and he sent me £60.

I have done the right thing for me, my family and my business.

Do what is right!

Thank you, Bungle.

each to their own but im carrying on........ive picked up 5 new jobs this week and turned down 2......most customers have been pleased to see me...

[dazmond]

I also sent a mass text out on Wednesday evening . 700 custys. Explaining we would be carrying on cleaning as normal .if anyone would like to be put on hold , please let me know and it’s not a problem.if I don’t hear from you we will clean as normal .  no need to meet anyone , all pay by bacs .       So far had about 200 replies . 3 asking to be put on hold . The rest saying carry on . Although I said no need to reply unless suspending our service . So all positive . I only had Tuesday and Wednesday off this week until I worked out which way to go .

good lad.......keep going and crack on.....ive only had 4 skipped jobs this week and ive worked all week as normal!

[Shrek]

I’d say if any of us lose customers during this time due to us not turning up even though we’ve informed everyone that we aren’t going because of the Coronavirus And they get someone else in to replace us , then they aren’t worth bothering about in the first place. Things will relax after a while, just the 1st 3 weeks are important to stay in, the more vans on the road, the more people will think it’s ok to be out and about then this’ll go on for Flippin ages

[p1w1]

Yep, would be hard to tell who is worse the customer or the window cleaner who would take the work, would be a scummy lowlife thing to do.

[jonboywalton75]

I also sent a mass text out on Wednesday evening . 700 custys. Explaining we would be carrying on cleaning as normal .if anyone would like to be put on hold , please let me know and it’s not a problem.if I don’t hear from you we will clean as normal .  no need to meet anyone , all pay by bacs .       So far had about 200 replies . 3 asking to be put on hold . The rest saying carry on . Although I said no need to reply unless suspending our service . So all positive . I only had Tuesday and Wednesday off this week until I worked out which way to go .

Same here

[LT carpet cleaning]

“Do the right thing”.  ?

 


Yawn.

Yawn all you like. I just don’t think working now will do anybody any good in the long run. 

[jk999]

Omg mr gammon you are really getting boring no one want s to hear your thoughts moron

[Bungle]

I started a thread a few days ago which my question wasn't answered so go on bungle how are we desperate because we chose to earn a living go on tell me because it infuriates me the likes of you explain

Read my post again. “If you’re that desperate for a few quid then crack on. I’m not stopping you.”

[jk999]

Yes but why are we desperate thats the question

[LT carpet cleaning]

Omg mr gammon you are really getting boring no one want s to hear your thoughts moron

Read a lot of the comments on here and you’ll see I’m not alone in my thoughts.

[Jonny 87]

“Do the right thing”.  ?

 


Yawn.

Yawn all you like. Your selfish desperation will do far more harm in the long run. Remember your dash for pennies when you’re locked in for 6 months.

Out of curiosity I just had a quick scan through your posts over the years.

Thank goodness I did. It really put things into perspective. Your just a troll keyboard warrior that likes arguments and likes trying to wind people up.

First post i randomly looked at you were calling tosh all the names under the sun (behind your anonymity), another one you have a go at JW’s,  and so on.

Thank goodness no one should take any notice of your misinformed views.

It’s actually hilarious guys,

Click on his name,
View profile,
View posts,

And randomly click any page over the years and have a quick scan.  Every post is an argument.
Don’t take any notice of him.

 

[LT carpet cleaning]

“Do the right thing”.  ?

 


Yawn.

Yawn all you like. Your selfish desperation will do far more harm in the long run. Remember your dash for pennies when you’re locked in for 6 months.

Out of curiosity I just had a quick scan through your posts over the years.

Thank goodness I did. It really put things into perspective. Your just a troll keyboard warrior that likes arguments and likes trying to wind people up.

First post i randomly looked at you were calling tosh all the names under the sun (behind your anonymity), another one you have a go at JW’s,  and so on.

Thank goodness no one should take any notice of your misinformed views.

Remind me why I care what you think? I’m sure Tosh gave it back anyway.   

For the record I’ve edited the more acerbic part of the post. It’s not helpful, I agree.

[G Griffin]

Yes but why are we desperate thats the question

Why are you bothered? If you're not desperate, fair enough.
You don't need to explain your reasons for working but it might help if you do. Someone calling you desperate might think twice if they knew your reasons and it obviously bothers you.

[LT carpet cleaning]

Yes but why are we desperate thats the question

Why are you bothered? If you're not desperate, fair enough.
You don't need to explain your reasons for working but it might help if you do. Someone calling you desperate might think twice if they knew your reasons and it obviously bothers you.

To be fair I think he may have done on the other post.

[dd]

“Do the right thing”.  ?

 


Yawn.

Yawn all you like. Your selfish desperation will do far more harm in the long run. Remember your dash for pennies when you’re locked in for 6 months.

Out of curiosity I just had a quick scan through your posts over the years.

Thank goodness I did. It really put things into perspective. Your just a troll keyboard warrior that likes arguments and likes trying to wind people up.

First post i randomly looked at you were calling tosh all the names under the sun (behind your anonymity), another one you have a go at JW’s,  and so on.

Thank goodness no one should take any notice of your misinformed views.

Remind me why I care what you think? I’m sure Tosh gave it back anyway.   

For the record I’ve edited the more acerbic part of the post. It’s not helpful, I agree.

Far as I can tell you are not even a window cleaner. Go take the pi$$ on some other forum. Oh wait, you probably already do that as you have nothing better to do.

[Bungle]

Still getting texts back. Up to 170/180 now. Had loads to phone as I hadn’t got a mobile number. I finished contacting all my clients an hour ago. Some were asking if I was coming tomorrow 🤪. No Mrs Smith I’m calling to advise you I’ve suspended business until further notice. Some said that I could still clean but I said I would feel very uncomfortable doing so in the present circumstances. All 100% behind my decision. At least I know I have a business to go back to when this is over. Lots haven’t texted back. Even if all of them did sack me off I know at least I will rise again from the ashes 👍

[DeLuce]

Personally, I’ve decided to stop work. 
I think I gave some of the fellas a hard time on one of my posts on the day the Government made the first announcement. Apologies. You’re decision.
 I have old family members who live next door (down the road) and we get things for them. Medicine, food ....
 I sent a WhatsApp broadcast to all my customers Tuesday,to say I’m suspending my work for 3wks.
It was interesting to note that all replies were very supportive and in full harmony with my decision. A few of my older customers actually said that it was nice to be able to thank me for once for showing such care .
 Which made me think, that although we can still go to clean by law, some of our customers, although they may not say it to our face,  are quite relieved that we don’t go round to their house.
 For me though, I believe  if everyone shut down , it would slow down transmission. Virus spreads through contact, wether personal or left ( at least for a short duration) on surfaces, gates , doors , money , etc.
 Keep safe out there, whatever you decide to do..

[Bungle]

^^^ post of the day 👏

[Tomo]

Do the right thing and please dont visit supermarkets.  People don't observe the social distance and the packaging on everything is totally suspect u can't be sure who touched it before u or what is on  it. I think youd save more lives by not travelling to or being in supermarkets 

[LT carpet cleaning]

Do the right thing and please dont visit supermarkets.  People don't observe the social distance and the packaging on everything is totally suspect u can't be sure who touched it before u or what is on  it. I think youd save more lives by not travelling to or being in supermarkets 

Tend to agree and hadn’t even thought of the touching of packets and putting them back.   

My local M & S was doing a 1 in 1 out today which was great, but the minute you’re  at the till you’re never 2 yards away from the cashier despite trying.

[Tomo]

I think theres more transference at these sites than anywhere else. I know we have to visit unless your lucky enough to get home delivery but it makes you think!

[Jonny 87]

^^^ post of the day 👏

Everyone loves a good virtual pat on the back. Well done that man. Give you both a gold star.

[Don Kee]

Do the right thing and please dont visit supermarkets.  People don't observe the social distance and the packaging on everything is totally suspect u can't be sure who touched it before u or what is on  it. I think youd save more lives by not travelling to or being in supermarkets 

Tend to agree and hadn’t even thought of the touching of packets and putting them back.   

My local M & S was doing a 1 in 1 out today which was great, but the minute you’re  at the till you’re never 2 yards away from the cashier despite trying.

Mrs works in the cash office at Waitrose but as you can imagine, she’s been deployed elsewhere in store at the moment.

Anyway, she reckons even with the ‘one in, one out’ system, the place has bound to have had a few people that have been infected just on percentages alone.
Then imagine everything that person has touched and put back, coughed on or around and then factor in the staff that are around doing the same...

Forget the virus, makes me want to grow my own veg when times are ok!

 

[LT carpet cleaning]

Do the right thing and please dont visit supermarkets.  People don't observe the social distance and the packaging on everything is totally suspect u can't be sure who touched it before u or what is on  it. I think youd save more lives by not travelling to or being in supermarkets 

Tend to agree and hadn’t even thought of the touching of packets and putting them back.   

My local M & S was doing a 1 in 1 out today which was great, but the minute you’re  at the till you’re never 2 yards away from the cashier despite trying.

Mrs works in the cash office at Waitrose but as you can imagine, she’s been deployed elsewhere in store at the moment.

Anyway, she reckons even with the ‘one in, one out’ system, the place has bound to have had a few people that have been infected just on percentages alone.
Then imagine everything that person has touched and put back, coughed on or around and then factor in the staff that are around doing the same...

Forget the virus, makes me want to grow my own veg when times are ok!

 

Scary stuff. The last day or so I’ve started getting a bit fatalistic, if your names on The virus you will get it.

All the precautions, washing etc under the sun is moot the minute you (for example) open a door.

Still a good idea to at least try tho 

[Don Kee]

Scary stuff. The last day or so I’ve started getting a bit fatalistic, if your names on The virus you will get it.

I’d imagine a lot of us have mate, it’s why there are so many emotive opinions around (not just on this forum).

In the end, all you can do is what you think is right and take the precautions you feel you need to take (on top of the Government advice obviously)

You’ll never leave your house again if you go down that road too deep.

[LT carpet cleaning]

Scary stuff. The last day or so I’ve started getting a bit fatalistic, if your names on The virus you will get it.

I’d imagine a lot of us have mate, it’s why there are so many emotive opinions around (not just on this forum).

In the end, all you can do is what you think is right and take the precautions you feel you need to take (on top of the Government advice obviously)

You’ll never leave your house again if you go down that road too deep.

True enough.

[Bungle]

^^^ post of the day 👏

Everyone loves a good virtual pat on the back. Well done that man. Give you both a gold star.

Cheers for that 👍

Can you clear up something for me please? What is a windy wesher?

[Jonny 87]

^^^ post of the day 👏

Everyone loves a good virtual pat on the back. Well done that man. Give you both a gold star.

Cheers for that 👍

Can you clear up something for me please? What is a windy wesher?

When I moved up to work in scotland it was the way someone said “window washer” to me, and it just stuck. Actually forgot it was down in that box bit.