[James Styles]

The self employed package has been unveiled, after hearing the chancellor are you guys going to try carry on working or not?

[andyM]

The self employed package has been unveiled, after hearing the chancellor are you guys going to try carry on working or not?

Absolutely.

[SB Cleaning]

Yep

[Missing Link]

I'm happy to take the next couple of weeks off, but I'll see how it goes.

[mac74]

No

[Slacky]

I fancy putting a new roof on the shed.

Thanks Rishi.

Lifes a bitch 

[Slacky]

Im going to finish my pressure washing job tomorrow. I have a days work on a solar panel setup next week. I might see what the weather forecast is for next week. If its sunny i can see a few days in the garden being appealing.

[johnny bravo]

it says you will still be eligible even if you still work,  on Martin Lewis show

[JackieW]

 ''are you guys going to try carry on working or not?''

Will I be

A)  helping
 or
B) hindering

the spread of the virus if I carry on working?

The government have asked me to help stop the spread of the virus by staying at home.

They are offering to pay me 80%  of my income if I stay home.

I'm still undecided.

[G Griffin]

The self employed package has been unveiled, after hearing the chancellor are you guys going to try carry on working or not?

Absolutely.

Scab.
Andy M in the book.

[The Jester of Wibbly]

Yea. Already picked up a walk up today as they said there wc has stopped as she was not impressed

[G Griffin]

Yep

SB going in.

[deeege]

Will be taking next week off (was planning to do this anyway) then I’ll be back part time the week after. I’ve only got around 30% of my business left (for now) so will just have to do what I can.

Let’s hope things return to normal asap and we can all return to work without worrying if it’s the right thing to do.

[G Griffin]

Not for the foreseeable future.
The money has never been that important to me. For a few months anyway.
If money is that unnecessary, in the light of what we are going to face, then so is work.
Shalom.

[Missing Link]

The money has never been that important to me.

It probably wouldn't be to many here either, if they were the kind of bloke that could live off a woman's earnings.

But failing that some will have to go to work because keeping a roof over their family's heads and feeding them is important.

So why don't you do one with your virtue signalling?

We know that not all heroes wear capes.

[KS Cleaning]

Yes, I’ve digged out an old t shirt from the eighties, a white number,  with ‘Frankie Says’ emblazoned over the front of it. I’ve spent the last hour covering Frankie up and replacing it with Nicola😁

[G Griffin]

The money has never been that important to me.

It probably wouldn't be to many here either, if they were the kind of bloke that could live off a woman's earnings.

But failing that some will have to go to work because keeping a roof over their family's heads and feeding them is important.

More important than what? Than me not going to work?
And do you and your Helen have separate money then? And and you know our financial situation then?

[James Styles]

Yea. Already picked up a walk up today as they said there wc has stopped as she was not impressed

Bloody hell those customers are brutal 😆

[Missing Link]

The money has never been that important to me.

It probably wouldn't be to many here either, if they were the kind of bloke that could live off a woman's earnings.

But failing that some will have to go to work because keeping a roof over their family's heads and feeding them is important.

More important than what? Than me not going to work?
And do you and your Helen have separate money then? And and you know our financial situation then?

Keeping a roof over their families heads is more important than you virtue signalling that you don't care about money while your wife is a nurse (god bless her) and earning.

That's the thing about money, it's a bit like air.  You take it for granted until there's a shortage.

[Missing Link]

Yea. Already picked up a walk up today as they said there wc has stopped as she was not impressed

He's probably dead of the corona.

Touched the wrong window I'd guess.

[Soupy]

I'm happy to take the next couple of weeks off, but I'll see how it goes.

Good call. I take back everything I said about you.

Ish.

[Missing Link]

I'm happy to take the next couple of weeks off, but I'll see how it goes.

Good call. I take back everything I said about you.

Ish.

I'm naturally lazy, like a hassle free life and we've free money on it's way.  But I don't believe for a minute that whether I work, or not (or any other window cleaner) will make a blind bit of difference to the corona.

[alank]

No I'm not going to work I'm ringing the accountants tomorrow so they can sort a few things out for my employee then see how it goes for the next few weeks.  Like many I've lost all commercial jobs and hopefully the majority of the domestic work will still be there when we get back.

[Soupy]

I'm happy to take the next couple of weeks off, but I'll see how it goes.

Good call. I take back everything I said about you.

Ish.

I'm naturally lazy, like a hassle free life and we've free money on it's way.  But I don't believe for a minute that whether I work, or not (or any other window cleaner) will make a blind bit of difference to the corona.

What about a squad of twenty?

[G Griffin]

The money has never been that important to me.

It probably wouldn't be to many here either, if they were the kind of bloke that could live off a woman's earnings.

But failing that some will have to go to work because keeping a roof over their family's heads and feeding them is important.

More important than what? Than me not going to work?
And do you and your Helen have separate money then? And and you know our financial situation then?

.

Keeping a roof over their families heads is more important than you virtue signalling that you don't care about money while your wife is a nurse (god bless her) and earning.

That's the thing about money, it's a bit like air.  You take it for granted until there's a shortage.

I never said I don't care about money. I said 'the money'. The money that the government are gifting us.
I was staying off work anyway and not because the 'gift' came through- as I predicted- like some.
I understand if the people that were getting evicted and starving- they weren't- had to go to work even in a lockdown.
I would have even encouraged it, all Sturgeon-like, had your man Boris locked them down and not gifted them a gift.

[Missing Link]

What about a squad of twenty?

No difference to the big picture; you know how the modelling works.

Travelling to work has been accounted for.

[Don Kee]

Would you say the grant is there to encourage us not to work then?
Why wouldn’t they just say “don’t work” if that was the case?
(Genuinely asking, as it seems odd to me that you can technically earn whilst qualifying for this grant)

[Missing Link]

I understand if the people that were getting evicted and starving- they weren't- had to go to work even in a lockdown.

Good. 

Just accept that if people go to work following government guidelines, then that's good.  And if people choose not to work, that's good too.

Both are right answers.

[G Griffin]

I'm happy to take the next couple of weeks off, but I'll see how it goes.

Good call. I take back everything I said about you.

Ish.

I'm naturally lazy, like a hassle free life and we've free money on it's way.  But I don't believe for a minute that whether I work, or not (or any other window cleaner) will make a blind bit of difference to the corona.

You're not Chief Medical Officer though, are you? Or a sage from SAGE?
You're now a kept man, living off of my Missus' taxes.
She said it's ok because you helped her son with your poor spelling.

[Missing Link]

You're now a kept man, living off of my Missus' taxes.
She said it's ok because you helped her son with your poor spelling.

 

Thank her for her cervix.

[Missing Link]

You're not Chief Medical Officer though, are you? Or a sage from SAGE?

I've already explained to you that they took travel to work into consideration for their modelling.

See Soupy's link on how that works.

[Stoots]

Given I'm not classed as self employed and have no promise of income like most of you I guess I'll have to work a bit next week even if its just the bare minimum to cover the bills.

[G Griffin]

Would you say the grant is there to encourage us not to work then?
Why wouldn’t they just say “don’t work” if that was the case?
(Genuinely asking, as it seems odd to me that you can technically earn whilst qualifying for this grant)

I thought that they would, Don. But I don't trust the people .
I think that the grant now means that they can if they ever need to.

[Missing Link]

Given I'm not classed as self employed and have no promise of income like most of you I guess I'll have to work a bit next week even if its just the bare minimum to cover the bills.

So what's your working status?

Black economy?  You're obviously anonymous, and I don't know your situation, so no judgement here.

Just interested.

[G Griffin]

You're not Chief Medical Officer though, are you? Or a sage from SAGE?

I've already explained to you that they took travel to work into consideration for their modelling.

See Soupy's link on how that works.

I'll believe them but you said that you don't believe that you will affect co-vid by working.
The people shouldn't be trusted with things like this.

[Missing Link]

I'll believe them but you said that you don't believe that you will affect co-vid by working.
The people shouldn't be trusted with things like this.

Do you get drunk every night, Griff?

[G Griffin]

I'm happy to take the next couple of weeks off, but I'll see how it goes.

Good call. I take back everything I said about you.

Ish.

What?
He's only doing it for the money. He's been flapping and working all week even though I told him that the money was coming and when.
The tax paying key workers have bought his compliance. It's nothing to do with conscience.

[Don Kee]

Given I'm not classed as self employed and have no promise of income like most of you I guess I'll have to work a bit next week even if its just the bare minimum to cover the bills.

So what's your working status?

Black economy?  You're obviously anonymous, and I don't know your situation, so no judgement here.

Just interested.

I would imagine a company director Tosh, dividend payments making the bulk..?

[AuRavelling79]

Would you say the grant is there to encourage us not to work then?
Why wouldn’t they just say “don’t work” if that was the case?
(Genuinely asking, as it seems odd to me that you can technically earn whilst qualifying for this grant)

Ok, imagine you are an alarm installer. You no longer feel able to go into peoples houses to put in new systems, do annual checks and the like. But if the thing goes off or fails it's an emergency. Same with a gas fitter. So you do work a bit but not a lot.

[G Griffin]

I'll believe them but you said that you don't believe that you will affect co-vid by working.
The people shouldn't be trusted with things like this.

Do you get drunk every night, Griff?

For the next three weeks, at least.
It helps with the homeschooling.

[G Griffin]

You said this:

But I don't believe for a minute that whether I work, or not (or any other window cleaner) will make a blind bit of difference to the corona.

Your man, C Twitty, says different. I trust him more than you.

[AuRavelling79]

I'm happy to take the next couple of weeks off, but I'll see how it goes.

Good call. I take back everything I said about you.

Ish.

What?
He's only doing it for the money. He's been flapping and working all week even though I told him that the money was coming and when.
The tax paying key workers have bought his compliance. It's nothing to do with conscience.

Bit judgmental. Tosh sacked it off today before the Chancellor's announcement.

But after he got shamed by the Type 1 diabetic mother's day celebrant across the road from him? 

[Don Kee]

Would you say the grant is there to encourage us not to work then?
Why wouldn’t they just say “don’t work” if that was the case?
(Genuinely asking, as it seems odd to me that you can technically earn whilst qualifying for this grant)

Ok, imagine you are an alarm installer. You no longer feel able to go into peoples houses to put in new systems, do annual checks and the like. But if the thing goes off or fails it's an emergency. Same with a gas fitter. So you do work a bit but not a lot.

I hear you Gold, understand the scenario.

But I would imagine that there will be a lot that just crack on, using the line “I can be social distant from customers” as the reason.

Only working in an emergency wasn’t given as a stipulation. In fact, to me, it seemed like the self employed were being actively encouraged to try and crack on as normal.

Just thinking out loud. Had a lot of time this week to spend time in my own head 

[edward1]

so if u earnt over 50 k
no benefit?

[G Griffin]

I'm happy to take the next couple of weeks off, but I'll see how it goes.

Good call. I take back everything I said about you.

Ish.

What?
He's only doing it for the money. He's been flapping and working all week even though I told him that the money was coming and when.
The tax paying key workers have bought his compliance. It's nothing to do with conscience.

Bit judgmental. Tosh sacked it off today before the Chancellor's announcement.

But after he got shamed by the Type 1 diabetic mother's day celebrant across the road from him? 

.
But if I'd ignored him, he'd have worked yesterday and today. I couldn't give up on him and I finally got through that the money was coming and when.
My Missus even chucked in for him.

[G Griffin]

so if u earnt over 50 k
no benefit?

On average over three years.
Profit, too.

[CleanClear]

 But I don't believe for a minute that whether I work, or not (or any other window cleaner) will make a blind bit of difference to the corona.

Thats correct assuming they havn't got it  or catch it.

[G Griffin]

 But I don't believe for a minute that whether I work, or not (or any other window cleaner) will make a blind bit of difference to the corona.

Thats correct assuming they havn't got it  or catch it.

And we're good for the community.

[Stoots]

Given I'm not classed as self employed and have no promise of income like most of you I guess I'll have to work a bit next week even if its just the bare minimum to cover the bills.

So what's your working status?

Black economy?  You're obviously anonymous, and I don't know your situation, so no judgement here.

Just interested.

I'm Ltd, and so far nothing at all has been announced for directors.

Fecked is what I am lol

[CleanClear]

Would you say the grant is there to encourage us not to work then?
Why wouldn’t they just say “don’t work” if that was the case?
(Genuinely asking, as it seems odd to me that you can technically earn whilst qualifying for this grant)

Yes. its there so you can follow the advice to stay at home unless its absolutley neccessary.

[johns window kleen]

Until yesterdays announcement the whole thing seemed unclear. However that has changed.
I took it clearly from what the Chancellor said that we should stay at home.
No way given the situation affecting the country would I go out and clean windows.

I'd much rather go and work rather than stay off without pay until June,
 I am not going to criticise anyone, for their interpretation ,
but for me it's clear what is required of us.

[Smudger]

Given I'm not classed as self employed and have no promise of income like most of you I guess I'll have to work a bit next week even if its just the bare minimum to cover the bills.

So what's your working status?

Black economy?  You're obviously anonymous, and I don't know your situation, so no judgement here.

Just interested.

I'm Ltd, and so far nothing at all has been announced for directors.

Fecked is what I am lol

So you take no wage at all then?

Darran

[NWH]

Are you going around the shops and seen what’s going on,seriously you’ve got more chance catching this virus just popping round Tesco’s etc than you have working.

[G Griffin]

Are you going around the shops and seen what’s going on,seriously you’ve got more chance catching this virus just popping round Tesco’s etc than you have working.

Why do you want to increase your chances?
Don't do either.

[Ooooooog]

Given I'm not classed as self employed and have no promise of income like most of you I guess I'll have to work a bit next week even if its just the bare minimum to cover the bills.

So what's your working status?

Black economy?  You're obviously anonymous, and I don't know your situation, so no judgement here.

Just interested.

I'm Ltd, and so far nothing at all has been announced for directors.

Fecked is what I am lol

So you take no wage at all then?

Darran

Everyone takes the twelve grand plus dividends innit?

[Stoots]

Given I'm not classed as self employed and have no promise of income like most of you I guess I'll have to work a bit next week even if its just the bare minimum to cover the bills.

So what's your working status?

Black economy?  You're obviously anonymous, and I don't know your situation, so no judgement here.

Just interested.

I'm Ltd, and so far nothing at all has been announced for directors.

Fecked is what I am lol

So you take no wage at all then?

Darran

12.5k allowance plus dividends.

[deeege]

Won’t you get 80% of £1k per month then?

[Smudger]

Yes you should do - it’s a wage same as any other employee

Darran

[KS Cleaning]

Won’t you get 80% of £1k per month then?

I think you need to have a contract of employment in place?

[Stoots]

Yes you should do - it’s a wage same as any other employee

Darran

Nope.

To qualify employees need to be "furloughed" which is basically a leave of absence where they cannot perform any work for the company.

A sole director doesn't qualify for the scheme as they cannot be furloughed as they have to perform administrative duties. 

[James Styles]

Yes you should do - it’s a wage same as any other employee

Darran

Nope.

To qualify employees need to be "furloughed" which is basically a leave of absence where they cannot perform any work for the company.

A sole director doesn't qualify for the scheme as they cannot be furloughed as they have to perform administrative duties.

That sucks man. Sorry to hear that, will be so glad when all this is over and things can (hopefully) go back to normal.

[NWH]

I’ll set him up one of them pages I’m havin from you lot 🤣

[Stoots]

Yes you should do - it’s a wage same as any other employee

Darran

Nope.

To qualify employees need to be "furloughed" which is basically a leave of absence where they cannot perform any work for the company.

A sole director doesn't qualify for the scheme as they cannot be furloughed as they have to perform administrative duties.

That sucks man. Sorry to hear that, will be so glad when all this is over and things can (hopefully) go back to normal.

Yep, but there will be thousands if not millions in hardship over the coronavirus and some a lot worse off than me.

When you think people are actually dying daily at the minute it gives you a bit of perspective.

[Pete Thompson]

Yea. Already picked up a walk up today as they said there wc has stopped as she was not impressed

Bloody hell those customers are brutal 😆

I have got a new customer this week for the same reason. She said her old window cleaner has decided to sit it out for 3 months, which she didn’t like because she knew we could still work.

I took that as a good sign that I was doing the right thing. When customers themselves don’t like the idea of their window cleaners needlessly interrupting the service while taking a nice fat cheque from the chancellor, it gives me even more reason to crack on.

But it was also quite sobering; we are still only in the first week! Those of us who are planning to stay off work, are you sure you will have customers to go back to in 3 months time? I wouldn’t be.

[wayne m]

I’ve done the opposite and actually set up a what’s app group for quite a few window cleaners in town who we all get on and actually have said I will NOT take on any other window cleaners work who have decided to sit this out and would try and explain to that so called good customer to be loyal and respect their decision, wether that helps and changes their minds who knows but it won’t feel right taking someone’s work!

[Shrek]

[deeege]

Yea. Already picked up a walk up today as they said there wc has stopped as she was not impressed

Bloody hell those customers are brutal 😆

I have got a new customer this week for the same reason. She said her old window cleaner has decided to sit it out for 3 months, which she didn’t like because she knew we could still work.

I took that as a good sign that I was doing the right thing. When customers themselves don’t like the idea of their window cleaners needlessly interrupting the service while taking a nice fat cheque from the chancellor, it gives me even more reason to crack on.

But it was also quite sobering; we are still only in the first week! Those of us who are planning to stay off work, are you sure you will have customers to go back to in 3 months time? I wouldn’t be.

Shame on you for doing that Pete. Are you that desperate for new work that you’ll take the food off another mans table? How do you know he isn’t self isolating because he, his wife or child are high risk?

Not good that.

[NWH]

Yea. Already picked up a walk up today as they said there wc has stopped as she was not impressed

Bloody hell those customers are brutal 😆

I have got a new customer this week for the same reason. She said her old window cleaner has decided to sit it out for 3 months, which she didn’t like because she knew we could still work.

I took that as a good sign that I was doing the right thing. When customers themselves don’t like the idea of their window cleaners needlessly interrupting the service while taking a nice fat cheque from the chancellor, it gives me even more reason to crack on.

But it was also quite sobering; we are still only in the first week! Those of us who are planning to stay off work, are you sure you will have customers to go back to in 3 months time? I wouldn’t be.

I said this yesterday it’ll happen all over the place.

[Pete Thompson]

Shame on you for doing that Pete. Are you that desperate for new work that you’ll take the food off another mans table? How do you know he isn’t self isolating because he, his wife or child are high risk?

Not good that.

Lol!

Boo fricken’ hoo and cry me a river.

This is the reality of the situation. If you make a choice to stop working, even when the government specifically says “it is important that business continue” then, surprise surprise, some customers are going to disagree and be annoyed. That’s their right.

And as for self-isolation, well that lasts 7 or 14 days, not 3 months. self isolation .

Plus, for those on their moral high horse, think about this: I (as I’m sure most of us do) get new customers who walk up to me practically every week, which I’m sure will continue, especially with lots of people working from home right now.

Are you going to give each of them the inquisition to find out if you’re taking (as hilariously and oh-so-dramatically put) “the bread from another mans table”? No! Of course you aren’t, because that would be moronic!

I have a gardener that comes every 2 weeks to cut the grass in the summer. If he decided to just take 3 months off even though I know he’s still allowed to work, then guess what, I’ll find someone else too.

[NWH]

Over the last week I’ve spoken to about 5-10 customers they’ve said it’s ok for you to continue they can’t see that their particular houses would be effected because once you are in you don’t come into contact with anyone.
You don’t want to work fair enough don’t work but to say customers won’t see a WC working and after 2-3 months maybe approach him to do there’s says to me you don’t know much about people,there will be window cleaners out on Monday morning touting for work you Mark my words it’ll happen I wouldn’t be surprised if I heard it was happening.
You say people are desperate well that’s what desperate people do take food out of you’re mouth.,I agree with the post above.

[Shrek]

This is extremely encouraging.

A new study from Imperial shows the total deaths could be lower than 7000 - less than seasonal flu.

The peak could be just a week away if true.

What we are all doing is working - just by staying at home we are saving lives.

[NWH]

They would have saved more lives if they’d done more about how people have shopped for food,I feel more exposed and in danger when walking round Tesco’s than I do working people are not abiding by the 2 meter rule and hardly anyone is wearing gloves or being careful.
Walked passed that anus of a shop B&M which may as well be called Bum,people with a few teeth in there heads gathering round laughing and joking within inches of each other smoking and coughing all over the next person.

[deeege]

Shame on you for doing that Pete. Are you that desperate for new work that you’ll take the food off another mans table? How do you know he isn’t self isolating because he, his wife or child are high risk?

Not good that.

Lol!

Boo fricken’ hoo and cry me a river.

This is the reality of the situation. If you make a choice to stop working, even when the government specifically says “it is important that business continue” then, surprise surprise, some customers are going to disagree and be annoyed. That’s their right.

And as for self-isolation, well that lasts 7 or 14 days, not 3 months. self isolation .

Plus, for those on their moral high horse, think about this: I (as I’m sure most of us do) get new customers who walk up to me practically every week, which I’m sure will continue, especially with lots of people working from home right now.

Are you going to give each of them the inquisition to find out if you’re taking (as hilariously and oh-so-dramatically put) “the bread from another mans table”? No! Of course you aren’t, because that would be moronic!

I have a gardener that comes every 2 weeks to cut the grass in the summer. If he decided to just take 3 months off even though I know he’s still allowed to work, then guess what, I’ll find someone else too.

Couldn’t give a monkeys if you or anybody else works or not,  that’s a decision each of us has to make, but taking another fellas work, especially considering the current situation is just low. Justify it however you like but it is.

[G Griffin]

Yea. Already picked up a walk up today as they said there wc has stopped as she was not impressed

Bloody hell those customers are brutal 😆

I have got a new customer this week for the same reason. She said her old window cleaner has decided to sit it out for 3 months, which she didn’t like because she knew we could still work.

I took that as a good sign that I was doing the right thing. When customers themselves don’t like the idea of their window cleaners needlessly interrupting the service while taking a nice fat cheque from the chancellor, it gives me even more reason to crack on.

But it was also quite sobering; we are still only in the first week! Those of us who are planning to stay off work, are you sure you will have customers to go back to in 3 months time? I wouldn’t be.

So you take the signs from potential customers that you know little about?
What if you get the virus and can't clean the windows of your, and other window cleaners', customers? Are you sure that they will still be there for you in 3 months time?
What if you infect them with the virus? Are you sure that they will still be there for you in 3 months time?

[Shaun v walters]

As much as I want to protect my round and avoid an inflated tax return I've decided to down tools! Many Asian countries believe 5 metres is the minimum contact distance.i really don't think enough is known about this virus and it's transmission and the fact the jet stream has been sat on us for months now and blowing everything around only heightens my concerns. Have an awful feeling the weeks to come will reinforce my decision! Stay safe fellow shiners!!

[Shrek]

For those who aren’t working- don’t forget to start your van up every now and again so you don’t end up with a flat battery 🔋!

[G Griffin]

As much as I want to protect my round and avoid an inflated tax return I've decided to down tools! Many Asian countries believe 5 metres is the minimum contact distance.i really don't think enough is known about this virus and it's transmission and the fact the jet stream has been sat on us for months now and blowing everything around only heightens my concerns. Have an awful feeling the weeks to come will reinforce my decision! Stay safe fellow shiners!!

And you, Shaun.
It's maybe best for your work colleague 'n' all.

[Pete Thompson]

So you take the signs from potential customers that you know little about?

Yes. Except this is no longer a “potential” customer, but an “actual” customer.

But to me the interesting thing was that this is an example of how a customer is thinking. They don’t have sympathy for their window cleaner sitting at home when they’re specifically permitted to work, especially when they’ve been given a fat payment from the government.

What if you get the virus and can't clean the windows of your, and other window cleaners', customers? Are you sure that they will still be there for you in 3 months time?

That’s a different situation. I was off for 10 weeks one time following spine surgery, and I didn’t lose a single customer. I emailed / texted them all explaining, and all I got back was “we understand, get well soon!”.

Actually being ill is different from staying away even though you’re not ill, and the government says you’re allowed to continue.
 
So, judging by that episode, if I emailed/texted saying I am sick, sorry, they’d have sympathy with that.

What if you infect them with the virus? Are you sure that they will still be there for you in 3 months time?

I don’t see how that would be possible, as I never accept cash, and I’m not posting cards for the time being (texts and emails instead)
But for the sake of argument, let’s say I did. How would anyone know it came from me? They’re much more likely to blame the supermarket, postman, neighbour, fellow dog walker etc than me, who turns up only once a month and stays outside, away from them.

So, yes, I do think they’d still be there.

[Slacky]

But for the sake of argument, let’s say I did. How would anyone know it came from me?

That is the statement of someone who hasn't thought through what they're saying.

Even Tosh doesn't say stuff that stupid.

[KS Cleaning]

Yea. Already picked up a walk up today as they said there wc has stopped as she was not impressed

Bloody hell those customers are brutal 😆

I have got a new customer this week for the same reason. She said her old window cleaner has decided to sit it out for 3 months, which she didn’t like because she knew we could still work.

I took that as a good sign that I was doing the right thing. When customers themselves don’t like the idea of their window cleaners needlessly interrupting the service while taking a nice fat cheque from the chancellor, it gives me even more reason to crack on.

But it was also quite sobering; we are still only in the first week! Those of us who are planning to stay off work, are you sure you will have customers to go back to in 3 months time? I wouldn’t be.

You sir are lower than a snakes belly!
How do you know he will be getting a nice fat cheque from the chancellor? Do you have access to his tax returns?

[Pete Thompson]

You sir are lower than a snakes belly!
How do you know he will be getting a big fat cheque from the chancellor? Do you have access to his tax returns?

Lol! Whatever.

Of course I don’t know if he will or not, but that isn’t what I said.

What I said customers may not like the idea of their window cleaner, who is permitted to work, sitting at home with their fat cheque from the government, while their service is interrupted.

It was an observation. That’s what the customer may well be thinking. Especially those with someone self-employed in the family.

It’s also what I would be thinking if my grass-cutting man decides to sit it out for 3 months.

[NWH]

I will carry on for as long as I can do ,I’m not looking to sit at home like some window cleaners,
Some of them want to enjoy the time off that’s why they ain’t liking some of these facts that their work might be gone 🤣,it’s not so enjoyable sitting on you’re arse thinking I hope I don’t lose work coz it will happen.
Already spoken to a couple of fellow WCs they lost all commercial till further notice and have been told we don’t know when we will want you to start again we need to look after our staff first,one has been told off the record that the window cleaning here will be the last thing they think about when this all settles down.
They might want a hot system when they get round to cleaning em again because a lot of them may be well over a year or  18 months before they get a scrub lol,are you not telling me that within that time other firms won’t be after that work,of course they will it’ll be a free for with that kind of work when this is done.

[G Griffin]

That’s a different situation. I was off for 10 weeks one time following spine surgery,

So they removed it then?

[p1w1]

That’s a different situation. I was off for 10 weeks one time following spine surgery,

So they removed it then?

[andyM]

Lol! Whatever.

Of course I don’t know if he will or not, but that isn’t what I said.

What I said customers may not like the idea of their window cleaner, who is permitted to work, sitting at home with their fat cheque from the government, while their service is interrupted.

It was an observation. That’s what the customer may well be thinking. Especially those with someone self-employed in the family.

It’s also what I would be thinking if my grass-cutting man decides to sit it out for 3 months.

Pete you might consider that there will be exceptions.
For example since the schools have closed some Parents have no choice but to stay home with the kid/s.

[G Griffin]

Lol! Whatever.

Of course I don’t know if he will or not, but that isn’t what I said.

What I said customers may not like the idea of their window cleaner, who is permitted to work, sitting at home with their fat cheque from the government, while their service is interrupted.

It was an observation. That’s what the customer may well be thinking. Especially those with someone self-employed in the family.

It’s also what I would be thinking if my grass-cutting man decides to sit it out for 3 months.

Pete you might consider that there will be exceptions.
For example since the schools have closed some Parents have no choice but to stay home with the kid/s.

Yeah, but we've got a plump, East European au pair so I can work and save my business.
But I'm going to stay home with my fat Czech.

[Pete Thompson]

Pete you might consider that there will be exceptions.
For example since the schools have closed some Parents have no choice but to stay home with the kid/s.

Of course!

 And if my grass- cutting man emailed and said “I’m sorry I can’t work for the moment as school closures mean I have to look after the kids” I’d have total sympathy with that. I’d get him back as soon as the schools re-opened or he had childcare sorted.

I’m pretty sure window cleaning customers would too.

But “I’m just going to sit at home for 3 months even though I’m permitted to work” is totally different. Especially now the government is paying.

This is what customers think! If you don’t like it, or don’t believe it, well sorry but so what?

[KS Cleaning]

Pete you might consider that there will be exceptions.
For example since the schools have closed some Parents have no choice but to stay home with the kid/s.

Of course!

 And if my grass- cutting man emailed and said “I’m sorry I can’t work for the moment as school closures mean I have to look after the kids” I’d have total sympathy with that. I’d get him back as soon as the schools re-opened or he had childcare sorted.

I’m pretty sure window cleaning customers would too.

But “I’m just going to sit at home for 3 months even though I’m permitted to work” is totally different. Especially now the government is paying.

This is what customers think! If you don’t like it, or don’t believe it, well sorry but so what?

That’s a bit of a sweeping statement is it not? How do you know what customers think, have you done a  national survey? There  have been plenty posts on here from window cleaners who have decided to stop working, telling us their customers have been supportive of their decision.

[G Griffin]

Pete you might consider that there will be exceptions.
For example since the schools have closed some Parents have no choice but to stay home with the kid/s.

Of course!

 And if my grass- cutting man emailed and said “I’m sorry I can’t work for the moment as school closures mean I have to look after the kids” I’d have total sympathy with that. I’d get him back as soon as the schools re-opened or he had childcare sorted.

Like my fat Czech?
Do you think window cleaners would actually say that they are just staying at home because they had their fat cheque even though they were allowed to work? For now.
They might lie, just like your grass cutting man might lie.

[paulswindows]

Most of us will be getting the 80 percent so why carry on when they are asking people to stay at home to save lives?
When the fatalities start going up to Italy and Spain levels the public might not stand for anyone being out on their street when they don’t need to be there, never mind what the police are doing. It could get quite risky.
There might have been some sympathy
before but not now everyone knows the self employed are getting help. Having said all that I do believe there will be a total lockdown anyway very soon that was always planned as the next stage.

[Dave Willis]

They might think , look at that greedy numpty still working - I bet he’s still claiming his money off the government too!

[Missing Link]

They might think , look at that greedy numpty still working - I bet he’s still claiming his money off the government too!

Most people can't seem to understand the simple staying at home guidelines and the exemptions; they'll have no chance understanding what the government's offering.

[KS Cleaning]

Most of us will be getting the 80 percent so why carry on when they are asking people to stay at home to save lives?
When the fatalities start going up to Italy and Spain levels the public might not stand for anyone being out on their street when they don’t need to be there, never mind what the police are doing. It could get quite risky.
There might have been some sympathy
before but not now everyone knows the self employed are getting help. Having said all that I do believe there will be a total lockdown anyway very soon that was always planned as the next stage.

Because at the moment the government are advising me due to the nature of my work and the fact that  I work alone,  I am permitted  to continue to work. When they tell me to stop working (and I think that’s only a matter of time)  I will again take their advice, and stop working.

[NWH]

Yep as soon as they say you cannot go to work I’ll stop going sure thing.

[Missing Link]

Yep as soon as they say you cannot go to work I’ll stop going sure thing.

But but but the epidemiological scientists on this forum say you'll kill your customers.

Or family.

[Slacky]

That’s a different situation. I was off for 10 weeks one time following spine surgery,

So they removed it then?

lol you tosser Griff 

[G Griffin]

Yep as soon as they say you cannot go to work I’ll stop going sure thing.

But but but the epidemiological scientists on this forum say you'll kill your customers.

Or family.

Yeah, they say that window cleaners don't make a blind bit of difference to the corona virus.
And don't hug, just to be on the safe side.