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combat1

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Sub zero
« on: January 21, 2020, 11:14:41 am »
Do you clean when the temperature is below zero (wfp). ie when the water is likely to freeze on the ground?
Thinking it might be better to prospect new business until temp rises 2 or 3? Degrees above zero.

Stoots

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Re: Sub zero
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2020, 11:20:02 am »
If the windows can be cleaned then clean them.

If it freezes on the glass or your equipment freezes then I guess you can't.

NWH

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Re: Sub zero
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2020, 12:04:43 pm »
Doing a huge greenhouse this morning everything has been cleared out for me to do it,the roof was completely frozen first thing but there’s no frames just clips holding the glass in so flat out hot 65-70 degrees no cracking at all.
That’s the test squeaky clean Dave  did,bit different if they are tight in a frame.

Soupy

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Re: Sub zero
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2020, 12:17:20 pm »
You're good down to -4

Below that it gets trickier.

Coldest we've "cleaned" is -17
Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it - George Orwell

TomCrowther

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Re: Sub zero
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2020, 12:20:07 pm »
imho -3 is the lowest temp to work in. Below that and I feel I'm creating a slip hazard etc.

combat1

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Re: Sub zero
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2020, 01:09:08 pm »
Thanks, mainly relating to slip hazard on domestics.
About - 2 here this morning and freezing as it hit the ground.
Suppose wfp all safe areas and trad pole over doors etc.
Cleaning the glass not a problem 😀 got warm water. Bet Nathans loving this weather😀

NWH

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Re: Sub zero
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2020, 01:19:58 pm »
I carry salt

The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: Sub zero
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2020, 01:38:22 pm »
To be fair, this winter so far had been very warm and mild to date.   We've been lucky accept for the rain.     
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Splash & dash

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Re: Sub zero
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2020, 03:23:04 pm »
Water can freeze on the ground when it’s + 4-5 degrees if the ground is cold or frozen . I think common sense has to prevail just do work where the run off isn’t going to be a problem if you can , if not then you either take a chance or go home .

Jay Le Huray

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Re: Sub zero
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2020, 03:26:42 pm »
the lowest I've ever managed was -4,   anything lower than that and I'm completely frozen up, this morning it was -3 when I left home

dazmond

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Re: Sub zero
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2020, 04:10:00 pm »
ice melt grit is better than salt,this is what i carry in the van as well as a sweeping brush,not had to use it this winter yet as its never been sub zero during the day...it was 4c at 9am this morning and 0c yesterday...... :)

price higher/work harder!

Soupy

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Re: Sub zero
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2020, 04:37:24 pm »
ice melt grit is better than salt,this is what i carry in the van as well as a sweeping brush,not had to use it this winter yet as its never been sub zero during the day...it was 4c at 9am this morning and 0c yesterday...... :)

It was 12 here today. Felt like spring.

Shut it Gretta!  >:(
Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it - George Orwell

david mark

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Re: Sub zero
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2020, 04:48:21 pm »
Spiders on the loose around the window frames and doors  in January Blackpool area don't normally see them till April

deeege

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Re: Sub zero
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2020, 05:37:36 pm »
-2°c I find is about the limit for cold wfp on domestics, any colder and you risk leaving frozen slippery paths.

I’ve lost exactly 0 days due to frost over the past 5 years, the winters in the north west seem to be getting milder and milder and it’s now 10 years since we had a real cold one.
"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."

RPCCS

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Re: Sub zero
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2020, 10:50:24 pm »
imho -3 is the lowest temp to work in. Below that and I feel I'm creating a slip hazard etc.
Same here, if it gets below -3 then there is more chance of the water freezing on windows of porches or conservatories, and on the ground. During frosty weather if the water starts freezing on the ground, I carry a bag of grit in the van and sprinkle some on the bath or where the water has frozen on steps etc.  Also I find I spend more time trying to warm my fingers up than cleaning, even with fleece lined waterprgloves.
Cheers Rich

windowswashed

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Re: Sub zero
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2020, 10:56:15 pm »
Conservatories where there is no heating are the worst for sheeting with ice when WFP below zero degrees

Soupy

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Re: Sub zero
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2020, 05:29:52 am »
imho -3 is the lowest temp to work in. Below that and I feel I'm creating a slip hazard etc.
Same here, if it gets below -3 then there is more chance of the water freezing on windows of porches or conservatories, and on the ground. During frosty weather if the water starts freezing on the ground, I carry a bag of grit in the van and sprinkle some on the bath or where the water has frozen on steps etc.  Also I find I spend more time trying to warm my fingers up than cleaning, even with fleece lined waterprgloves.

I prefer bubbles in mine.
Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it - George Orwell

AuRavelling79

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Re: Sub zero
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2020, 02:34:27 pm »
Salt and a broom plus an immersion and I can work below freezing and think ahead to freezing as the sun goes down.

I might also trad front door glass too.

It's a game of three halves!