[KS Cleaning]

I feel your pain Daz, back pain can be a right nightmare....I had a prolapsed disc or two a few years back, had to get my daughter to put my socks on for me for a few days as there was no way I could bend down that far😢
If I were you I would be going to a specialist to get a diagnosis, then depending on that diagnosis you can put in place a course of action for both the short and long term.

[dazmond]

It’s the gym daz . I stopped doing all deadlifts years ago as it’s just not worth getting injured and missing work. Earlier this year I took a month out the gym but kept window cleaning as normal- all my little niggles / tight elbows, joints went back to 100%. I started the gym again and slowly they started coming back too

im not giving up the gym mate...ill work around injuries etc,but i wont be doing heavy deadlifts anymore thats for sure......

[dazmond]

I feel your pain Daz, back pain can be a right nightmare....I had a prolapsed disc or two a few years back, had to get my daughter to put my socks on for me for a few days as there was no way I could bend down that far😢
If I were you I would be going to a specialist to get a diagnosis, then depending on that diagnosis you can put in place a course of action for both the short and long term.

all the doctor will do is give me painkillers and tell me to keep moving as much as possible......my brothers dropping off some of my mums strong painkillers in a bit so im might be able to get out and do a bit tomorrow to keep active....

[Shrek]

It’s the gym daz . I stopped doing all deadlifts years ago as it’s just not worth getting injured and missing work. Earlier this year I took a month out the gym but kept window cleaning as normal- all my little niggles / tight elbows, joints went back to 100%. I started the gym again and slowly they started coming back too

im not giving up the gym mate...ill work around injuries etc,but i wont be doing heavy deadlifts anymore thats for sure......

No way - I’m not saying quit the gym lol , I wouldn’t be able to do that either. Iv just stopped the heavy lifting and do more reps instead of more weight

[Jonny 87]

I listened to a podcast recently talking about deadlifts and their relation to functional strength.

They are terrible.

Look at athletes or sports people, they never do deadlifts. Far too much risk for too little gain.

Stick to rows and pull ups for your back.  I reckon that should keep your back fairly healthy.

[SB Cleaning]

Start swimming instead of Gym Daz , best form of excercise i think, nice and easy on the joints 

[dazmond]

im dosed up on ibuprofen and paracetamol and my brother has just nipped round with some nefopam so ive took one of them too!

[dazmond]

Start swimming instead of Gym Daz , best form of excercise i think, nice and easy on the joints 

good shout that mate........i swim virtually everyday when on holiday but not so much when back in england.....should do me good while im recovering but i wont be giving up the weights anytime soon once my backs sorted.....

[Simon Trapani]

I found this book on old school calisthenics really helpful & interesting Daz:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Convict-Conditioning-Weakness-Survival-Strength/dp/0938045768/ref=nodl_

[Dave Willis]

Once your back’s gone the chances are it will go again. I was 26 when mine went (lowering a baby into her cot). I was the fittest I could be (or so I thought). Weight training six times a week, incredibly strong for my size with a six pack. I couldn’t move for a week and when I did venture out I couldn’t get off the kerb. Weight training is bad for backs particularly things like sit ups, dead lifts and squats.
Wfp is good for my back, it makes me stretch and arch (reverse) my back. Still have physio every six weeks and have done for twenty years but no more episodes for a long time.
Look after your back, pointless being vain at your age, concentrate on fitness, leave the posing for the gays and guys with little willy’s.

[Frankybadboy]

Chiropractors, osteopaths etc  are useless the results they achieve are the normal healing of the body not the result of their treatment

sorry mike totally disagree with you on the above,and i like to see what  proof you have to back this up

a good osteopath etc will have you sorted in no time Daz if they are worth there wait

dont see it as a cure,see it as a release from the pain

[Spotfree]

I did a similar thing, deadlifting too heavy and felt a sharp pain above my right hip. It stayed with me for months, it would go away then come back a day or two later.

I don't deadlift at the minute, not missing it.

Bad knees now feel better from not squatting too.

Boht the dealift and the squat are very beneficial to us ageing men, but only if done correctly.

I'll be getting back to them, but much lighter and with very strict form.

Your back will heal up given time. Leave the ego at the gym door.

[p1w1]

Back pain usually comes from  2 incidents, a disc prolapsing and your bodies response to that prolapse.

I won’t waste my time explaining a prolapsed disc the internet is full of info, but the only treatment is movement of the prolapse so it microscopically breaks away and is absorbed by the body, it cannot go back into place. Unless you move (work) it will not heal

Spasm of the surrounding muscles by the body in a reaction to the prolapse, you body  is sensing an injury  and wants to protect the area. The area needs to relax which can be done slightly with deep tissue massage but drugs do it better either tramadol for pain or muscle relaxants like diazepam

Strong painkillers are also needed to help you move the area which again require prescription drugs (tramadol, OxyContin )

Chiropractors, osteopaths etc  are useless the results they achieve are the normal healing of the body not the result of their treatment

I haven't read the whole thread but what Mike has said is absolutely spot on, an exact situation I went through a few years back even to this day I have to resort now and again to co-codamol (zapain) and diazepam, I would advise from my experience to try your best to avoid tramadol. But definitely have it looked at as if you leave it and you start trapping nerves you will start to suffer from sciatica and you will never experienced a pain like it.

[Jonny Swirljet]

Please don't go down the Cocodamol route, they are highly addictive and give you constipation.

When your back has fully recovered get used to a regime of before work back stretching exercises to warm up the muscles.

I'm 66 years old and this has been very successful and i'm still doing Krav.

Good luck!

[Oliver James]

Sorry to hear about this.

No experience with Osteopaths but I've always been amazed at what Physiotherapists can achieve with the sporting-related injuries I've had.

It sounds like you are in really great shape physically, so surely that has to help as a factor in a speedy recovery.

Maybe cycling, swimming or yoga would help, plus intermittent fasting if you ever want to lose weight?

All the best for a rapid recovery.

[Granny]

You should be quite robust with all that gym. Sounds like a spasm as described earlier. I get it from time to time often when doing the simplest thing, lifting something light out of the car, once by picking a weed out of the garden path on my way out. Had to cancel the night out! Best way to get quick relief lie in a hot bath, feet resting by the taps knees at right angle. Lie on floor with legs raised on a chair knees at right angle. Looks daft but works.

[dazmond]

cheers for all the helpful replies lads....👍

ive wrote the week off....theres no way ill be working again this week...my back has totally gone now.........iv done some stretching exercises this morning but its too painful to do much at the moment.i cant even sit on a chair or walk without being in agony.....

my back has never been this bad before.......

[richard connett]

Good shout for the swimming. I had a bulging disk a year ago and the only thing that got me moving was the swimming , best not to go sedentary . What I learnt in recovery from a physio though is that a strong core is what counteracts a bad back. I know I used to ignore core work in my gym sessions. Think Bruce Lee and not Arnold Schwarzenegger

[andyM]

cheers for all the helpful replies lads....👍

ive wrote the week off....theres no way ill be working again this week...my back has totally gone now.........iv done some stretching exercises this morning but its too painful to do much at the moment.i cant even sit on a chair or walk without being in agony.....

my back has never been this bad before.......

Because you are a self-employed one man band I would suggest you phone your GP to arrange a visit asap.
They will probably just try to palm you off with painkillers and "2 weeks off work", but see if you can get them to refer you to the surgery (or local area) Physiotherapist.
Sometimes it can help you to get on the Physio list by being self employed, because potentially you will have no income particularly if you could be out sick long term.
You really need to be pro active about this situation because hopefully you will recover in a short time but if you don't you need to have a plan in place. 

[Michael Peterson]

Try a lacross Bala across the glutes the looseness can reviews tight lower back