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tlwcs

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Electric Nissan van. UPDATE
« on: July 07, 2019, 03:31:36 pm »
Hi all,
I have 24 hour test drive of the e-nv200 from Thursday night.
Anybody use one and give me any pro or cons.
The range is upto 180 miles a charge now. Even taking into consideration that I may have to use the wipers, heater, demister on a cold day, the true range may be halved. I’m going to sing to save having the radio on. I only do 25 miles a day.
I have a ford connect L2  with a 500 litre diy system I fitted. (Strapped)
I may look to sell if a deal is done
Tony

Richard iSparkle

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2019, 03:34:31 pm »
Hi all,
I have 24 hour test drive of the e-nv200 from Thursday night.
Anybody use one and give me any pro or cons.
The range is upto 180 miles a charge now. Even taking into consideration that I may have to use the wipers, heater, demister on a cold day, the true range may be halved. I’m going to sing to save having the radio on. I only do 25 miles a day.
I have a ford connect L2  with a 500 litre diy system I fitted. (Strapped)
I may look to sell if a deal is done
Tony

really interested to see how you get on.

i was keen to try one this time around but was put off by the cost, and the unknowns.

we would love to go electric though
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

david mark

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2019, 04:02:12 pm »
500 litre tank full may take more electric. But if your round is local I reckon you be fine

dd

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2019, 04:12:06 pm »
What is the payload?

tlwcs

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2019, 04:19:22 pm »
What is the payload?
650 ish. Advertised as over 750 but not including driver
Would change the tank to a 400 flat

dd

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2019, 05:39:40 pm »
25k plus VAT. Ouch.

PHILIP HARDY

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2019, 07:11:58 pm »
Remember looking at a diesal version a few years ago now and thinking there was not enough length for the poles without cutting into the bulkhead, that + the payload was a big negative.
The Stupid Neither Forgive Nor Forget
The Naive Forgive And Forget
The Wise Forgive But Don't Forget

Ooooooog

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2019, 07:38:46 pm »
Until they produce something with a 1500kg payload, it’s not plausible for us. Would love to go electric. Spending over a grand a month on diesel hurts.

tlwcs

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2019, 07:55:49 pm »
The pole length is a good point.
The ford owned from new , 64 plate,  I doubt will last another 10 years before I retire.
A new van now should see me through though.
Use between 350 and 500 litres a day currently, but I’m fairly liberal with it, I’m sure I could save some 
The last 2 vans have been brand new so I’m well used to the payments, but yes 25k is a lot of money
We’ll see how it drives.

dd

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2019, 11:21:49 pm »
If your current van is only 5 years old why not keep it longer, especially as you expect your next van to last 10 years until you retire?

dazmond

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2019, 11:24:12 pm »
Why the big push for electric vehicles? ::)roll
What about the power stations?wont we need loads more to power all these vehicles?electric vehicles still give off pollutants into the atmosphere......just different ones that's all....

price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2019, 11:25:52 pm »
If your current van is only 5 years old why not keep it longer, especially as you expect your next van to last 10 years until you retire?

I'm sure with limited mileage it would last another 10 years......its only 5 years old at present.....
price higher/work harder!

Rayleigh Window Cleaning Services

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2019, 04:02:24 pm »
Looked in to this a year ago, the carrying capacity was just not good enough for our vans.
Once you get ladders, all your reels, poles etc it started to look not so good and if you go 2 up for odd jobs.
For now we are out. 8)
As time goes on maybe it will improve, but I still think there is no way near enough infrastructure for it or what's going to happen to all these used batteries that will start accumulating

Elfyn

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2019, 04:58:07 pm »
The thing that no one ever thinks of with electric vehiles is the cost per mile. Most cars and vans would be anywhere between 12 and 20 pence per mile. An EV at the moment would be 3 to 5 pence per mile.
I wonder how long it will be before the government realises that is't missing out on fuel tax revenue and starts taxing the electricity you use?

tlwcs

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2019, 05:19:31 pm »
Why the big push for electric vehicles? ::)roll
What about the power stations?wont we need loads more to power all these vehicles?electric vehicles still give off pollutants into the atmosphere......just different ones that's all....
Cost per mile.
I don’t think they produce any pollutants, but your right to charge them it’s using  nuclear or fossil fuel to create the electricity needed to charge them
If your current van is only 5 years old why not keep it longer, especially as you expect your next van to last 10 years until you retire?
There is no write down now on the current van and besides I like vans where there’s not the mot worry. You’ve had old vans, would you.keep your connect 15 years

dd

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2019, 07:16:50 pm »
I have only had one van for wfp, a 13 year old dispatch I bought new. If you are looking to retire in 10 years and only want to buy one more van IMO it makes sense to keep your 5 year old van a couple more years, assuming you are happy with it.


tlwcs

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2019, 07:22:15 pm »
I have only had one van for wfp, a 13 year old dispatch I bought new. If you are looking to retire in 10 years and only want to buy one more van IMO it makes sense to keep your 5 year old van a couple more years, assuming you are happy with it.
It’s ok. It’s going to need a big service in the next couple months. Cam belt, service,  4 tyres and anything else for the mot.
It’s got 2 payments left before I own it.  It’s worth fair money as a depo which will reduce over the next couple of years, but then if I save the payments....................
We shall see

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2019, 07:45:19 pm »
Until they produce something with a 1500kg payload, it’s not plausible for us. Would love to go electric. Spending over a grand a month on diesel hurts.
i thought they did already  ivocos i am sure john menzies use these which are all ele

zesty

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2019, 08:09:54 pm »
Susan, why do you have (1st clean) written as part of your name? Purely out of interest...

Ooooooog

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2019, 08:36:35 pm »
Until they produce something with a 1500kg payload, it’s not plausible for us. Would love to go electric. Spending over a grand a month on diesel hurts.
i thought they did already  ivocos i am sure john menzies use these which are all ele

Thanks, I’ll take a look.

Plankton

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2019, 10:01:07 pm »
Cost of replacing batteries/life span? How do you work out the electric usage for tax offset etc.

Plankton

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2019, 10:03:05 pm »
Susan, why do you have (1st clean) written as part of your name? Purely out of interest...

Business name?

windowswashed

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2019, 09:59:21 pm »
Trouble with electric cars is how reliable the batteries are and the cost to replace the battery packs, not for me, I'm out for the next 21 years and then I'm retired and won't care anyway  ;D

dan paton

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2019, 07:16:32 am »
I think in time to come electric vans will be the standard. However for the moment I'll stick to diesel.

Spruce

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2019, 07:47:28 am »
Cost of replacing batteries/life span? How do you work out the electric usage for tax offset etc.

From the 1st of July all new power charge points installed at owners homes using a grant need to be smart meters. So I'm sure you will know exactly what your electric charging costs will be a year so you can aportion a percentage to private and the rest to business.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Spruce

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2019, 08:01:23 am »
Why the big push for electric vehicles? ::)roll
What about the power stations?wont we need loads more to power all these vehicles?electric vehicles still give off pollutants into the atmosphere......just different ones that's all....

Its a case of moving the source of pollution to another part of the country where pollution levels are lower or aren't monitored. So its a ticking boxes exercise. As for London, the emission zones is a major revenue source.

From the 1st of July each charge point fitted to the owner's home has to be 'smart'.  The benefit we are told it that the grid can switch these charging points off at peak energy draw times and switch them back on during times when energy is cheaper in the middle of the night.

As far as I can see, smart meters will only benefit the electric grid and will hit the users the most with increased electricity costs. I heard once that the country needs 5 new power stations. If they dramatically increase the cost of electricity used during peak hours (morning and evening) then they believe they only need to build 3.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2019, 10:07:34 am »
A gardener mate has one of these vans. He's a bit of an eco warrior. He leases it and so always has a decent battery as part of the deal and gets new more efficient ones as they come out.  £500 a month though   :o

tlwcs

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Re: Electric Nissan van UPDATE
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2019, 10:34:41 am »
Ok. Picked it up last night and was told I could keep it until Monday
I returned it this morning.

Positives,
A higher ride than the Ford connect
Great low down acceleration
On collection the range said 145 miles, drove it home and on a 16 mile run the regen gave me 155! Very low running costs
Battery guarantee is 15 years

Negatives
Same size as the L2 connect but smaller cab and load space. Could only get the SLX35 in the back on a diagonal
703 kg payload, less me @110 doesn’t leave much when a 400 litre tank is 430 including the tank it’s self. There’s still a 115 battery and electric reel to add
Mid spec is 34k less 6k as a government rebate, but would only cost £100 per more than what I was paying for the Ford. Very well equipped but very plasticy
Very little storage in the cab
Would struggle to bolt down as the batteries are under the load bed
Can’t trap the hose in the doors to work with it locked

For me for now, it’s not the right vehicle. But, when I choose to slow down and use 300/350 a day just on domestic, I may just revisit with a view to a nearly new one.

Big thanks to Dave in Sussex who has owned one for 4 years raves about it and took time to show me how it works for him

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Electric Nissan van
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2019, 06:15:34 pm »
Susan, why do you have (1st clean) written as part of your name? Purely out of interest...

Business name?
thats right  about ten years ago the admin wanted us all to put business names in as well as your own name i just never bothered taking it off

Dave Willis

Re: Electric Nissan van. UPDATE
« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2019, 08:29:36 pm »
Posh milk float innit ???

advanced

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Re: Electric Nissan van. UPDATE
« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2019, 09:49:35 pm »
You are going to give yourself a whole lot of trouble mate  , all unnecessary
Wait till electric gets better