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poles apart

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price per hour
« on: April 04, 2019, 04:27:37 pm »
I've been asked to tender for work on a price per hour basis. How much per hour is reasonable?

dazmond

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2019, 05:23:22 pm »
I've been asked to tender for work on a price per hour basis. How much per hour is reasonable?

£40-£50 an hour.....i wont work for any less.....
price higher/work harder!

Smudger

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2019, 05:31:41 pm »
Sounds horrible

Why p/h and not per job?

Darran
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www.oddbodscleaning.co.uk

NWH

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2019, 05:33:31 pm »
What a cheek why was you asked to quote by the hour,I personally never quote by the hour.

NWH

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2019, 05:34:30 pm »
I would say show me the work and I’ll give you a price for it,next thing you know they’ll be telling you how to clean it with a bucket and ladder.

Dry Clean

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2019, 05:35:45 pm »
After costs whatever you are happy with is reasonable.

robbo333

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2019, 05:42:00 pm »
Very odd!

Pick a figure YOU are happy with and go with that. Don't try and anticipate what THEY might think is reasonable.

This is your business.
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For all other enquiries, please press1"

Shrek

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2019, 05:56:57 pm »
 just say ,
 ‘ sorry I can’t give you an hourly rate as some jobs take longer than expected. I can give you a price for the job though and it takes as long as it takes’

dazmond

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2019, 06:13:52 pm »
seems strange to me.....im sure if my customers realised how much i earn per hour on some work they wouldnt be happy...... ;D
price higher/work harder!

Bungle

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2019, 06:27:57 pm »
seems strange to me.....im sure if my customers realised how much i earn per hour on some work they wouldnt be happy...... ;D

Most would feel sorry for you earning only £40/£50 an hour.
We look at them, they look through them.

windowswashed

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2019, 06:38:32 pm »
Tell them you are safe employed and price per job same as every other self employed person with the exception of gardeners. Only PAYE employees get bored watching the clock knowing they are paid per hour, no wonder they watch the clocks wishing their lives away.

NWH

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2019, 07:32:17 pm »
Lol yeah if you want to lose a job talk about how much you’re getting for the Windows,there’s no one more curious about what you’re getting paid than the gardener or the housekeepers.

dazmond

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2019, 07:42:46 pm »
seems strange to me.....im sure if my customers realised how much i earn per hour on some work they wouldnt be happy...... ;D

Most would feel sorry for you earning only £40/£50 an hour.

yeah im sure they will while their working 30 hrs a week in sainsburys for £10 an hour..... ;D
price higher/work harder!

NWH

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2019, 08:16:25 pm »
I do a  Gardeners house on the grounds of another bigger property I clean he always used to make sure I got my money as soon as I did them,about 6 months ago he found out what I was getting for the main house.
Last 2 cleans on his place I’ve been ignored by him around the main house and he knows he also owes me 2 cleans but I’ve yet to get my money from him 😂 some sad people out there,if he thought I was earning  less than him he’d have paid me by now.

Re: price per hour
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2019, 08:23:33 pm »
I do a  Gardeners house on the grounds of another bigger property I clean he always used to make sure I got my money as soon as I did them,about 6 months ago he found out what I was getting for the main house.
Last 2 cleans on his place I’ve been ignored by him around the main house and he knows he also owes me 2 cleans but I’ve yet to get my money from him 😂 some sad people out there,if he thought I was earning  less than him he’d have paid me by now.

Yawn.

Stoots

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2019, 10:12:05 pm »
I would try to quote for the job but if they insist on an hourly rate just quote your hourly rate.....

Doesn't really matter what's reasonable just what you want and they can say yes or no.


windowswashed

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2019, 10:34:35 pm »
Talking of gardeners, I cleaned a place this afternoon and said hello to the gardener next door who was a grumpy sod, totally blanked me and then started trying to impress the owner about how very cheap he was compared to another gardener who was charging extortionate prices and mentioning that he was getting on average three new customers every week. Busy fool I thought to myself.  Charge the going rate according to what others are charging or more if you can if  reputation and demand allows it.
It's like everything in life, all prices go up and only fools don't put their prices up. Didn't tell him I put the price up on the neighbours house who he was gardening for  ;D

dazmond

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2019, 10:41:55 pm »
when i first joined this forum i couldnt believe window cleaners could earn £30 an hour cleaning windows...i was gobsmacked.....if i dont earn £40-£50 an hour these days then im disappointed.....

i only work short days now though...i cant stomach more than 5 or 6 hours a day,some days even less.....
price higher/work harder!

nathankaye

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2019, 10:59:38 pm »
Dont know if im repeating as ive not read all the above comments. But....

Do you need the job?
Personnally i would reply
" sorry I feel that you may have picked the wrong person for the job. Thank you for the enquiry though,  but I quote per job depending on msny factors. One of which is my experience and reputation.
Thank you."
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Dave Willis

Re: price per hour
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2019, 07:12:46 am »
Just divide your day rate into hours, quite simple really.

Or take a screenshot of the crap that’s spouted on here and show them that  ;D

nathankaye

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2019, 08:27:15 am »
I've been asked to tender for work on a price per hour basis. How much per hour is reasonable?

One question which hasnt been asked, how long will this job take you?
Then work out the price you want to charge for the job and then calculate a temp price per hour so you get what you want for the job.
Or else, as i said previously, let them know they have the wrong person
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Shrek

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2019, 08:36:12 am »
They would never ask the plumber or electrician or joiner how much per hour , they’re taking the pi$$.
Offer them a price for the job only

Dry Clean

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2019, 09:06:25 am »
There's only one reason why they're looking your hourly rate and that's to haggle over the price when the job has been finished,
you took an hour for your lunch so there's an hour less on your bill and so on, I suspect no matter how you price this you're going to have to chase up the payment, proceed with caution.

Soupy

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2019, 09:20:52 am »
Nowt wrong with a decent hourly rate job. I do very well out of the occasional job on an hourly / day rate. It works well for difficult to price jobs like large builder's cleans.

Price it as much or more than you usually earn. Simples.

Be accurate when billing them, proof of hours via vehicle tracking comes in handy for that.
Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it - George Orwell

deeege

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2019, 10:47:29 am »
Nowt wrong with a decent hourly rate job. I do very well out of the occasional job on an hourly / day rate. It works well for difficult to price jobs like large builder's cleans.

Price it as much or more than you usually earn. Simples.

Be accurate when billing them, proof of hours via vehicle tracking comes in handy for that.

Proving that your vehicle was on site for x hours doesn’t prove that you did x hours work. You could have been sat in the van playing on your phone all afternoon (a bit like I am now).
"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."

Dave Willis

Re: price per hour
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2019, 12:19:36 pm »
I usually break it down further and insist on a pound a minute.


I’ve just lost £5 eating a sandwich- happy days!

NWH

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2019, 12:29:58 pm »
If I went to quote a job and all they wanted to know was how I’m pricing it and how much I’m getting an hour I would say o think you need to get you’re gardener to do it,no one has the right to ask how much you charge an hour customer or not.
I give a price they either except it or nove onto someone else or someone cheaper.

Dry Clean

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2019, 02:33:16 pm »
If I went to quote a job and all they wanted to know was how I’m pricing it and how much I’m getting an hour I would say o think you need to get you’re gardener to do it,no one has the right to ask how much you charge an hour customer or not.
I give a price they either except it or nove onto someone else or someone cheaper.

Why do you keep picking on gardeners, have they replaced shiners as the ones believed to be at the bottom of the heap  ?

Soupy

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2019, 02:35:29 pm »
If I went to quote a job and all they wanted to know was how I’m pricing it and how much I’m getting an hour I would say o think you need to get you’re gardener to do it,no one has the right to ask how much you charge an hour customer or not.
I give a price they either except it or nove onto someone else or someone cheaper.

Why do you keep picking on gardeners, have they replaced shiners as the ones believed to be at the bottom of the heap  ?

I've started a new gardening business so, yes.

BTW I charge around the same for gardening work as I do for windows but the prices are more variable depending on the work and skill level required.
Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it - George Orwell

Splash & dash

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2019, 03:42:36 pm »
I never give customers an hourly rate , I give them a price for the job , what I earn per hour is non of there buisness, they either are happy with the price or they arnt , if they knew what we earn per hour they would think we were ripping them off , however we all invest thousands in kit and that has to be paid for and they are paying for our expertise in achieving the results that they want that doesn’t come cheap , years of practice make us quick at what we do that should benefit us not the customer when it comes to pricing

Soupy

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2019, 03:47:36 pm »
I never give customers an hourly rate , I give them a price for the job , what I earn per hour is non of there buisness, they either are happy with the price or they arnt , if they knew what we earn per hour they would think we were ripping them off , however we all invest thousands in kit and that has to be paid for and they are paying for our expertise in achieving the results that they want that doesn’t come cheap , years of practice make us quick at what we do that should benefit us not the customer when it comes to pricing

???

We were on a building site this week, on an hourly rate and I guarantee our lads were the cheapest guys there.
Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it - George Orwell

dazmond

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2019, 03:51:44 pm »
If I went to quote a job and all they wanted to know was how I’m pricing it and how much I’m getting an hour I would say o think you need to get you’re gardener to do it,no one has the right to ask how much you charge an hour customer or not.
I give a price they either except it or nove onto someone else or someone cheaper.

Why do you keep picking on gardeners, have they replaced shiners as the ones believed to be at the bottom of the heap  ?

I've started a new gardening business so, yes.

BTW I charge around the same for gardening work as I do for windows but the prices are more variable depending on the work and skill level required.

you wont make much money then once  tax,insurances and expenses are deducted if your pricing your window cleaning jobs as cheap as your gardening jobs....unless your working 10 hour days....

gardeners are lucky to be making £20-£25 an hour near me....
price higher/work harder!

Splash & dash

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2019, 04:05:10 pm »
I never give customers an hourly rate , I give them a price for the job , what I earn per hour is non of there buisness, they either are happy with the price or they arnt , if they knew what we earn per hour they would think we were ripping them off , however we all invest thousands in kit and that has to be paid for and they are paying for our expertise in achieving the results that they want that doesn’t come cheap , years of practice make us quick at what we do that should benefit us not the customer when it comes to pricing

???

We were on a building site this week, on an hourly rate and I guarantee our lads were the cheapest guys there.


Depends what you are prepared to work for some are happy with £10 per hour some want to earn £60 per hour not many would be prepared to pay the latter if you price the job at that but give them a price of £120 to do a plastic clean most would pay it no questions asked , if you told them it would take two hours and I charge £60 per hour most wont pay it , generaly the customer has no idear how long it will take to do it , as an example an avarage gfs Clean we would do it in 1:5 hours it would take the customer all day to do it and they still wouldn’t get as good a results as a professional doing the job

Soupy

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2019, 04:16:34 pm »
If I went to quote a job and all they wanted to know was how I’m pricing it and how much I’m getting an hour I would say o think you need to get you’re gardener to do it,no one has the right to ask how much you charge an hour customer or not.
I give a price they either except it or nove onto someone else or someone cheaper.

Why do you keep picking on gardeners, have they replaced shiners as the ones believed to be at the bottom of the heap  ?

I've started a new gardening business so, yes.

BTW I charge around the same for gardening work as I do for windows but the prices are more variable depending on the work and skill level required.

you wont make much money then once  tax,insurances and expenses are deducted if your pricing your window cleaning jobs as cheap as your gardening jobs....unless your working 10 hour days....

gardeners are lucky to be making £20-£25 an hour near me....

I charge much more than £25 per hour.
Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it - George Orwell

NWH

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2019, 05:01:23 pm »
Gardeners in Deep South do not get £25 an hour I can promise you that lol,most of they are lucky and I mean lucky get 120-130 a day.
I know a Monty Don type proper plantsman the head gardener and he’s on no more than 30-35k a year,these days round these parts 120-130 a day is not good money unless you call 15-20£ an hour good.

dazmond

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2019, 06:07:09 pm »
Gardeners in Deep South do not get £25 an hour I can promise you that lol,most of they are lucky and I mean lucky get 120-130 a day.
I know a Monty Don type proper plantsman the head gardener and he’s on no more than 30-35k a year,these days round these parts 120-130 a day is not good money unless you call 15-20£ an hour good.

i used to work on a plant nursery....its notoriously low paid and long hours......
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2019, 06:08:54 pm »
If I went to quote a job and all they wanted to know was how I’m pricing it and how much I’m getting an hour I would say o think you need to get you’re gardener to do it,no one has the right to ask how much you charge an hour customer or not.
I give a price they either except it or nove onto someone else or someone cheaper.

Why do you keep picking on gardeners, have they replaced shiners as the ones believed to be at the bottom of the heap  ?

I've started a new gardening business so, yes.

BTW I charge around the same for gardening work as I do for windows but the prices are more variable depending on the work and skill level required.

you wont make much money then once  tax,insurances and expenses are deducted if your pricing your window cleaning jobs as cheap as your gardening jobs....unless your working 10 hour days....

gardeners are lucky to be making £20-£25 an hour near me....

I charge much more than £25 per hour.

good for you.......youll do well then.....
price higher/work harder!

Small but perfectley formed

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2019, 07:49:52 am »
£0.01  per second  that's a reasonable hourly rate
Spit and polish

Soupy

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2019, 08:31:55 am »
Gardeners in Deep South do not get £25 an hour I can promise you that lol,most of they are lucky and I mean lucky get 120-130 a day.
I know a Monty Don type proper plantsman the head gardener and he’s on no more than 30-35k a year,these days round these parts 120-130 a day is not good money unless you call 15-20£ an hour good.

You sound exactly like the type of window cleaning customer that people on here hate.
Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it - George Orwell

NWH

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2019, 11:07:18 am »
That made a lot of sense m8 I’m not a customer,probably a Lee Pryor hater aren’t you.
What I should have said was I get 15-20£ an hour and I’m hap hap happy eh.

Dry Clean

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2019, 11:32:19 am »
That made a lot of sense m8 I’m not a customer,probably a Lee Pryor hater aren’t you.
What I should have said was I get 15-20£ an hour and I’m hap hap happy eh.

Soupy a Lee Pryor hater, Im sure that will hit him where it hurts. lol

You dont need to say anything as nobody other than yourself cares what you get an hour, but what I would like to know is what have you got to offer that demands the price gardeners cant get ?

NWH

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2019, 11:36:38 am »
I can’t believe how touchy some people get when money is spoken about it’s ridiculous tbh,the people struggling on here all click together and that’s a fact.
If you’ve got an old crap van you’re my m8 if you earn a reasonable amount you’re my m8 lol,you earn 3-400 a day you can p off then lol.

Dry Clean

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2019, 12:10:36 pm »
I can’t believe how touchy some people get when money is spoken about it’s ridiculous tbh,the people struggling on here all click together and that’s a fact.
If you’ve got an old crap van you’re my m8 if you earn a reasonable amount you’re my m8 lol,you earn 3-400 a day you can p off then lol.
The problem with that theory is Soupy is far from stuggling and even though he's always wrong on his Brexit posts he's still well respected on here.

NWH

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2019, 01:02:28 pm »
I only come on here to be respected by people that live somewhere between 4-600 miles away from
me ,it’s my life’s ambition lol.

Soupy

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2019, 02:10:35 pm »
I only come on here to be respected by people that live somewhere between 4-600 miles away from
me ,it’s my life’s ambition lol.

Actually, you're 204 miles from me.

Respect me, pretty please.
Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it - George Orwell

Smudger

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #45 on: April 10, 2019, 04:31:43 pm »
I only come on here to be respected by people that live somewhere between 4-600 miles away from
me ,it’s my life’s ambition lol.

Actually, you're 204 miles from me.

Respect me, pretty please.

how do you make that out ?

Nigel lives in Kent ( can't quite remember where )

Darran
A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

www.oddbodscleaning.co.uk

Soupy

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #46 on: April 10, 2019, 06:06:07 pm »
I only come on here to be respected by people that live somewhere between 4-600 miles away from
me ,it’s my life’s ambition lol.

Actually, you're 204 miles from me.

Respect me, pretty please.

how do you make that out ?

Nigel lives in Kent ( can't quite remember where )

Darran

Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it - George Orwell

NWH

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #47 on: April 10, 2019, 06:22:10 pm »
I work Sussex and Kent

Soupy

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #48 on: April 11, 2019, 02:28:08 pm »
I work Sussex and Kent

Don't bother respecting me then.
Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it - George Orwell

Re: price per hour
« Reply #49 on: April 11, 2019, 02:46:42 pm »

James Randall

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #50 on: May 03, 2019, 07:28:39 pm »
This job isn’t worth doing unless you’re doing £45-£50 imo.

Stoots

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Re: price per hour
« Reply #51 on: May 04, 2019, 01:39:34 pm »
This job isn’t worth doing unless you’re doing £45-£50 imo.

"Worth doing"  is subjective but there's no reason anyone anywhere in the country shouldn't be doing at least £30 an hour these days and hopefully a good bit more.