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dazmond

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diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« on: February 04, 2019, 11:49:36 am »
my vans in for a service today.....anyway got back home after dropping it off and noticed a diesel "patch" on my driveway(right where my diesel tank/heater is normally)so phoned the garage back up and asked them to check it while its up on the hydraulic lift... ::)roll

i suppose it could be where grippa tapped into my diesel tank for my heater...i dunno.....hopefully theyll be able to sort it for me.....they did have an issue with this when i had it installed.....
price higher/work harder!

The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2019, 12:11:39 pm »
Fingers crossed for you buddy.

Probably just a quick fix anyway.
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The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2019, 12:35:11 pm »
Fingers crossed for you buddy.

Probably just a quick fix anyway.

hows your heater working mate?did you have it serviced after 12 months?as i know you had yours fitted the day before mine......

i didnt bother.....too far to travel......

Yes running all fine buddy so far.  Not serviced as I don't think it's needed from what others say.   I did give it a break in the summer months as I like to use cold on the hot days to keep me a little cooler
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jonboywalton75

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2019, 01:55:10 pm »
Winter is officially over in Cheshire as from today,
Used my duvet cover 4 times so far
ZERO pence spent on frost protection 😅😅😅😅

NWH

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2019, 04:50:59 pm »
If they put it on a lift they may have pulled out or losend the fuel pipe for the heater,the VW vans have covers underneath so shouldn’t be a problem although most other vans don’t.

P @ F

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2019, 04:59:08 pm »
ive found out where the leaks coming from....my van was still up on the hydraulic lift when i popped back to the garage.its a plastic fuel pipe with a jubilee clip on the end....tightened it up(still a full turn left in it!)....hopefully this should cure it.... :)

No wonder the heater was drinking the fuel then 😂😂😂
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2019, 05:30:01 pm »
If they put it on a lift they may have pulled out or losend the fuel pipe for the heater,the VW vans have covers underneath so shouldn’t be a problem although most other vans don’t.

it was leaking before i took it for a service....tbh i think its a poor connection fitting by grippatank....i dont think they should of put a jubilee clip on a plastic pipe to seal it......it should be heat shrink wrapped or something...... ::)roll

the connect has a massive heat shield covering the fuel tank as its made out of nylon(doesnt rot).had to take out around 12 screws just to pull it back to access the fuel pipe..... ::)roll

Actually, that could of been a different story if you did not notice it.  Was the  fuel dripping anywhere near the exhaust pipe?
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KS Cleaning

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2019, 05:41:36 pm »
ive found out where the leaks coming from....my van was still up on the hydraulic lift when i popped back to the garage.its a plastic fuel pipe with a jubilee clip on the end....tightened it up(still a full turn left in it!)....hopefully this should cure it.... :)
Leaking fuel!! You’d be safer with a DIY gas heater😜

p1w1

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2019, 06:07:02 pm »
bit of a joke really if thats the case, ill be checking mine.

Splash & dash

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2019, 06:49:14 pm »
my vans in for a service today.....anyway got back home after dropping it off and noticed a diesel "patch" on my driveway(right where my diesel tank/heater is normally)so phoned the garage back up and asked them to check it while its up on the hydraulic lift... ::)roll

i suppose it could be where grippa tapped into my diesel tank for my heater...i dunno.....hopefully theyll be able to sort it for me.....they did have an issue with this when i had it installed.....







I dont know where they go INto  the fuel system on a custom , but on my renault master they teed into the fuel return pipe , I had a leak from that after about a year , I phoned oliver he sent me out a new tee kit this is supplied by wabasto I fitted it and it’s been fine ever since

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2019, 08:40:33 pm »
If they put it on a lift they may have pulled out or losend the fuel pipe for the heater,the VW vans have covers underneath so shouldn’t be a problem although most other vans don’t.

it was leaking before i took it for a service....tbh i think its a poor connection fitting by grippatank....i dont think they should of put a jubilee clip on a plastic pipe to seal it......it should be heat shrink wrapped or something...... ::)roll

the connect has a massive heat shield covering the fuel tank as its made out of nylon(doesnt rot).had to take out around 12 screws just to pull it back to access the fuel pipe..... ::)roll

Actually, that could of been a different story if you did not notice it.  Was the  fuel dripping anywhere near the exhaust pipe?

no as the heat shield is massive on a connect and covers all the underneath of the van and the exhaust is in the centre of the van,not at the side(where the pipe was leaking)......

still.....i need to keep my eye on it......
price higher/work harder!

P @ F

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2019, 08:54:34 pm »
Dont get too close Daz , you dont want to lose another set of eye brows do you  ::)roll   ;D ;D ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2019, 07:43:12 am »
my vans in for a service today.....anyway got back home after dropping it off and noticed a diesel "patch" on my driveway(right where my diesel tank/heater is normally)so phoned the garage back up and asked them to check it while its up on the hydraulic lift... ::)roll

i suppose it could be where grippa tapped into my diesel tank for my heater...i dunno.....hopefully theyll be able to sort it for me.....they did have an issue with this when i had it installed.....







I dont know where they go INto  the fuel system on a custom , but on my renault master they teed into the fuel return pipe , I had a leak from that after about a year , I phoned oliver he sent me out a new tee kit this is supplied by wabasto I fitted it and it’s been fine ever since

mines a connect not a custom.....i think they teed into the fuel return pipe but that didnt work as the heater wouldnt work without the engine running so they tapped into it somewhere else i think....
price higher/work harder!

NWH

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2019, 12:26:18 pm »
I didn’t realise you had a connect Daz I thought you have a new transit.

jonboywalton75

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2019, 12:30:20 pm »
Daz doesn't need a big van/tank, he only does short days😉

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2019, 12:37:16 pm »
ive decided to book it in at grippatank for a full service which includes diagnostics,fixing any leaks,new glow plug and burner kit etc.....im not convinced that i have solved the leaking fuel pipe issue tbh.....

itll be good for the van to give it a good blast on a long drive(to stop the DPF getting clogged)as i only do small stop/start journeys most of the time as i only use it for work.... :)
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2019, 12:38:16 pm »
Daz doesn't need a big van/tank, he only does short days😉

true....a 500L tank is just right for me...... :)
price higher/work harder!

P @ F

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2019, 01:56:17 pm »
How much is one of these services you mentioned Daz ?
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2019, 02:00:48 pm »
How much is one of these services you mentioned Daz ?

more than the price of your chinese heaters!not much change out of £500(£474 including VAT)i think.....
price higher/work harder!

P @ F

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2019, 02:33:33 pm »
How much is one of these services you mentioned Daz ?

more than the price of your chinese heaters!not much change out of £500(£474 including VAT)i think.....

 ;D ;D ;D

Daz I could build 3 of mine for the price of 1 service !!!
I have just gotten mine to give 60 on demand from cold tank by the way , no frost protection though !
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Dave Willis

Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2019, 05:24:50 pm »
Ferk! 500 for a sevice, plus the van service ...... mental!

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2019, 05:41:25 pm »
Ferk! 500 for a sevice, plus the van service ...... mental!

van service was £80.... ;D
price higher/work harder!

P @ F

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2019, 05:50:23 pm »
Ferk! 500 for a sevice, plus the van service ...... mental!

van service was £80.... ;D

500 to service a fan heater yet only 80 to do a whole van !   ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

dd

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2019, 05:52:20 pm »
Could you not get your mechanic to sort out your tank connection Daz? Be a hell of a lot cheaper than your trip to Grippa!

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2019, 06:04:26 pm »
Could you not get your mechanic to sort out your tank connection Daz? Be a hell of a lot cheaper than your trip to Grippa!

id rather have it properly serviced mate...my local garage is great for basic jobs like oil changes,brakes,MOTs and stuff(cheap too!) but i want this sorting properly by the guys that fitted it......
price higher/work harder!

Don Kee

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2019, 06:14:10 pm »
Ferk! 500 for a sevice, plus the van service ...... mental!

van service was £80.... ;D

That for a full service or one of those crappy “interval service” thingys?

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2019, 06:19:51 pm »
Ferk! 500 for a sevice, plus the van service ...... mental!

van service was £80.... ;D


That for a full service or one of those crappy “interval service” thingys?

oil change....thats all a 2 year old van needs with 7k on the clock.....
price higher/work harder!

Don Kee

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2019, 06:31:48 pm »
Ferk! 500 for a sevice, plus the van service ...... mental!

van service was £80.... ;D


That for a full service or one of those crappy “interval service” thingys?

oil change....thats all a 2 year old van needs with 7k on the clock.....

If you say so mate 👍

Frankybadboy

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2019, 07:09:35 pm »
Ferk! 500 for a sevice, plus the van service ...... mental!
and two days off now ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2019, 07:34:48 pm »
Ferk! 500 for a sevice, plus the van service ...... mental!
and two days off now ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

3 day week this week as most of my work is up to date franky thats why i booked the van in for a service.... ;D

granted ill be taking a day off for the boiler service(long drive too,over 350 mile round trip)but itll be good for my diesel particulate filter and van to give it a good run out after all the stop/start journeys i do the rest of the year plus its piece of mind that ill get it done right...
price higher/work harder!

P @ F

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2019, 07:59:05 pm »
If it was done right it wouldn’t be leaking.    ;D ;D ;D
Only kiddin mate !
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

robbo333

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2019, 08:11:20 pm »
Fair play to you Daz.
You've worked hard to earn it, so spend it however you want.
BUT...I'd be asking for a breakdown of costs!
500 squid to fix a leak that shouldn't have happened, and to service a system that works perfectly.
Perhaps i'm getting old!
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Smudger

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2019, 08:23:41 pm »
I dunno, £80 for a grease monkey to change the oil
So £500 for a “full” service sounds on par

Darran
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P @ F

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2019, 08:24:36 pm »
Fair play to you Daz.
You've worked hard to earn it, so spend it however you want.
BUT...I'd be asking for a breakdown of costs!
500 squid to fix a leak that shouldn't have happened, and to service a system that works perfectly.
Perhaps i'm getting old!

Not so much old, but we must both squeak when we walk  ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

P @ F

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2019, 08:28:11 pm »
I dunno, £80 for a grease monkey to change the oil
So £500 for a “full” service sounds on par

Darran

80 is still steep though as did that include filter and main dealer oil ?
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Smudger

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2019, 08:31:38 pm »
Daz thinks it’s cheap - that’s all that matters 👍

Darran
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dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2019, 09:13:27 pm »
I dunno, £80 for a grease monkey to change the oil
So £500 for a “full” service sounds on par

Darran

80 is still steep though as did that include filter and main dealer oil ?

Of course it included filter and oil! ::)roll
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2019, 09:16:47 pm »
Fair play to you Daz.
You've worked hard to earn it, so spend it however you want.
BUT...I'd be asking for a breakdown of costs!
500 squid to fix a leak that shouldn't have happened, and to service a system that works perfectly.
Perhaps i'm getting old!

Its £474 including VAT,new glow plug and burner kit fitted ,any leaks fixed and diagnostics test....
price higher/work harder!

Splash & dash

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2019, 09:36:05 pm »
Fair play to you Daz.
You've worked hard to earn it, so spend it however you want.
BUT...I'd be asking for a breakdown of costs!
500 squid to fix a leak that shouldn't have happened, and to service a system that works perfectly.
Perhaps i'm getting old!

Its £474 including VAT,new glow plug and burner kit fitted ,any leaks fixed and diagnostics test....




Unless there is something drastically wrong with it it doesn’t need a service mine is over 4 years old done over 8000 hours and doesn’t need a screen and pin , it’s only a fuel leak change the fitting and it will be fine , it won’t need anything like that doing after just over a years use , you say it often enough yourself you only work part time , they are just selling you a service that it shouldn’t need , all the wabasto service centres I have spoken to have all said the same thing there is no servicing needed it either works or it doesn’t , they could have easily told me it needed a service and I would have been none the wiser , but they said when it stops working or gives off clouds of white smoke get a screen and pin changed then , doing it before is a waist of money , the age mine is now I would have changed it 4 times totaly unnecessarily

P @ F

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2019, 11:27:58 pm »
I dunno, £80 for a grease monkey to change the oil
So £500 for a “full” service sounds on par

Darran

80 is still steep though as did that include filter and main dealer oil ?

Of course it included filter and oil! ::)roll

This is my point though Daz , I bet you don’t know what filter and oil went in , Euro parts prob , in which case a poor quality filter and the wrong oil , I speak from experience here , you have no problem throwing 500 at grippa maintain 4.5k yet you throw 80 down the backstreet garage to maintain what 20k all in
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2019, 11:39:45 pm »
no its the proper ford oil filter and castrol  5w-30 oil plus they stamped my service book rich.....ive been taking cars and vans there for 25 years......also they ordered and replaced the plastic sump plug.....
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2019, 11:44:29 pm »
main dealers are the worst for doing shoddy work and at very high prices too from what ive been told off other people so ive always steered clear...
price higher/work harder!

P @ F

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2019, 12:03:12 am »
main dealers are the worst for doing shoddy work and at very high prices too from what ive been told off other people so ive always steered clear...

I don’t pay main dealers mate I’m too tight for that !
But I do buy parts genuine and oil in makers cans , I just don’t like paying some bloke that knows less than me to fix my poop
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Status Check

Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2019, 06:55:56 am »
Daz wake up mate. Your diesel heater don't need servicing. Stop the man maths to justify things. Just fix your diesel leak yourself.
It's not rocket science. If you carry on like this you will have £10k invested in this heater before you know it.

Dave Willis

Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2019, 07:15:41 am »
Lot of money for a jubilee clip.

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2019, 08:39:13 am »
Fair play to you Daz.
You've worked hard to earn it, so spend it however you want.
BUT...I'd be asking for a breakdown of costs!
500 squid to fix a leak that shouldn't have happened, and to service a system that works perfectly.
Perhaps i'm getting old!

Its £474 including VAT,new glow plug and burner kit fitted ,any leaks fixed and diagnostics test....




Unless there is something drastically wrong with it it doesn’t need a service mine is over 4 years old done over 8000 hours and doesn’t need a screen and pin , it’s only a fuel leak change the fitting and it will be fine , it won’t need anything like that doing after just over a years use , you say it often enough yourself you only work part time , they are just selling you a service that it shouldn’t need , all the wabasto service centres I have spoken to have all said the same thing there is no servicing needed it either works or it doesn’t , they could have easily told me it needed a service and I would have been none the wiser , but they said when it stops working or gives off clouds of white smoke get a screen and pin changed then , doing it before is a waist of money , the age mine is now I would have changed it 4 times totaly unnecessarily

when i had my heater fitted i had a fuel issue when they tapped into the fuel return pipe(the heater wouldnt work without the engine running)grippa sorted it of course.....i tightened a few jubilee clips on monday.....if this doesnt stop the leak then i want it fixing properly,i dont have a hydraulic lift to get under the van,the line going into the diesel tank is further up in an awkward tight space....so ill leave it to the guys that know what their doing.....

changing the glow plug and burner might not need doing yet but it wont do it any harm will it?
price higher/work harder!

John Mart

Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2019, 08:46:29 am »
I dunno, £80 for a grease monkey to change the oil
So £500 for a “full” service sounds on par

Darran

80 is still steep though as did that include filter and main dealer oil ?

Of course it included filter and oil! ::)roll

This is my point though Daz , I bet you don’t know what filter and oil went in , Euro parts prob , in which case a poor quality filter and the wrong oil , I speak from experience here , you have no problem throwing 500 at grippa maintain 4.5k yet you throw 80 down the backstreet garage to maintain what 20k all in
Surely non Ford parts would invalidate the warranty. I wouldn't risk a non dealer service on an in warranty vehicle.

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2019, 08:49:26 am »
Daz wake up mate. Your diesel heater don't need servicing. Stop the man maths to justify things. Just fix your diesel leak yourself.
It's not rocket science. If you carry on like this you will have £10k invested in this heater before you know it.

what are you on about?if i do go ahead with the service then ill have spent just around £5k altogether....
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2019, 08:52:33 am »
I dunno, £80 for a grease monkey to change the oil
So £500 for a “full” service sounds on par

Darran

80 is still steep though as did that include filter and main dealer oil ?

Of course it included filter and oil! ::)roll

This is my point though Daz , I bet you don’t know what filter and oil went in , Euro parts prob , in which case a poor quality filter and the wrong oil , I speak from experience here , you have no problem throwing 500 at grippa maintain 4.5k yet you throw 80 down the backstreet garage to maintain what 20k all in
Surely non Ford parts would invalidate the warranty. I wouldn't risk a non dealer service on an in warranty vehicle.

of course it voids the warranty if you dont fit genuine ford parts,thats why its a genuine ford oil filter but you dont need to go to a main dealer to have one fitted!
price higher/work harder!

Crystal-clear

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #49 on: February 06, 2019, 09:00:35 am »
Some people would have no choice but to do the service anyway. Shame its out of warranty as grippatank would have done that in warranty for the first year.
Hope it goes well it's quite a lot of mileage and money but at least you know it's going to get sorted.

P @ F

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #50 on: February 06, 2019, 09:09:53 am »
Hey Daz , just an idea , but if you are hell bent on having the grippa service ask for the burner and glow plug that they take out back , 2 reasons , you will then have spares and you can then see just how much wear and tear has gone on in 12 months or so , then make a more informed decision on if you need a yearly service or not .
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #51 on: February 06, 2019, 09:10:59 am »
Some people would have no choice but to do the service anyway. Shame its out of warranty as grippatank would have done that in warranty for the first year.
Hope it goes well it's quite a lot of mileage and money but at least you know it's going to get sorted.

exactly....i use hot water every day for window cleaning (summer or winter) and i want it to continue for many years to come with a well looked after heater...

ive had people tell me i dont need to change my oil on my van every year as i only do 3-4k miles a year.....it still gets changed every year regardless....(its now had 2 oil changes and its got just over 7k on the clock and its 2 years old).....
price higher/work harder!

Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #52 on: February 06, 2019, 10:41:48 am »
I was told once by an unqualified but know it all mate that the best time to do an annual oil change was end of autumn before it turns cold, logic being that fresh oil in colder months will be more beneficial ?
£80 for an oil/filter change by a garage doesn't seem steep to me .
Considering the value we place on our hourly rate with a fraction of the running costs of a garage and mechanics wages etc.
I do my own oil change but its a messy job that  takes me an hour or so with the clean up and still costs me somewhere between £40 - £50.

NWH

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #53 on: February 06, 2019, 10:55:10 am »
The burner won’t need doing yet no where near,it will smoke like mad first and the water won’t be anywhere near as hot as it is-was.
I had hot water in my 5kw after 10 years with no new glow pin or burner,people can say what they like about the services I would always get it done if your unlucky and the main brain needs changing it will cost a lot to fix if you’ve not kept up with the service you’ll be looking at over a grand without call out and fitting. If you’ve had a service for the first 3 years and it go’s wrong in that time it’ll be free.

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #54 on: February 06, 2019, 11:44:55 am »
I didn’t realise you had a connect Daz I thought you have a new transit.

How can that be possible? Even the mice in my garage know what van Dazmond has and every little extra on it- along with every aspect of his lifestyle!! ;D
Comfortably Numb!

jonboywalton75

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #55 on: February 06, 2019, 12:15:32 pm »
Are  Grippatank situated near Cambridge?
Correct me if I'm wrong but my goodness, you need to travel that far once a year for service on the heater so as not to void the warranty!!!!
It's sheer madness😱😱😱😱

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #56 on: February 06, 2019, 01:08:39 pm »
The burner won’t need doing yet no where near,it will smoke like mad first and the water won’t be anywhere near as hot as it is-was.
I had hot water in my 5kw after 10 years with no new glow pin or burner,people can say what they like about the services I would always get it done if your unlucky and the main brain needs changing it will cost a lot to fix if you’ve not kept up with the service you’ll be looking at over a grand without call out and fitting. If you’ve had a service for the first 3 years and it go’s wrong in that time it’ll be free.

Changing the glow plug and burner is part of the service.grippa do it as a matter of course every time it's serviced as well as repairing any leaks,diagnostics etc.....
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dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #57 on: February 06, 2019, 01:11:36 pm »
Are  Grippatank situated near Cambridge?
Correct me if I'm wrong but my goodness, you need to travel that far once a year for service on the heater so as not to void the warranty!!!!
It's sheer madness😱😱😱😱

Yep they are......I enjoyed the drive last time and Cambridge is lovely....nice part of the country....it's a 350 mile round trip!good for the DPF on my van! ;D
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Dry Clean

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #58 on: February 06, 2019, 01:58:26 pm »
Are  Grippatank situated near Cambridge?
Correct me if I'm wrong but my goodness, you need to travel that far once a year for service on the heater so as not to void the warranty!!!!
It's sheer madness😱😱😱😱

You're thinking with your business head, when it comes to our hobbies stupidity/madness and wasting money  doesnt come into it. lol

Status Check

Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #59 on: February 06, 2019, 02:49:30 pm »
Daz wake up mate. Your diesel heater don't need servicing. Stop the man maths to justify things. Just fix your diesel leak yourself.
It's not rocket science. If you carry on like this you will have £10k invested in this heater before you know it.

what are you on about?if i do go ahead with the service then ill have spent just around £5k altogether....

How much will my diesel heater cost over 5 years:

5  x services costing  £474.00 each = £2370.00
5 x trips to Cambridge (loss of earnings based on £250 per day) = £1250.00
5 x 1 years of diesel fuel based on £5 per day - £1200.00 per year = £6000.00

Total including cost of heater (£4500.00) = £14120.00

Thats a lot of cash to have hot water in your van :-)

John Mart

Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #60 on: February 06, 2019, 03:20:41 pm »
I dunno, £80 for a grease monkey to change the oil
So £500 for a “full” service sounds on par

Darran

80 is still steep though as did that include filter and main dealer oil ?

Of course it included filter and oil! ::)roll

This is my point though Daz , I bet you don’t know what filter and oil went in , Euro parts prob , in which case a poor quality filter and the wrong oil , I speak from experience here , you have no problem throwing 500 at grippa maintain 4.5k yet you throw 80 down the backstreet garage to maintain what 20k all in
Surely non Ford parts would invalidate the warranty. I wouldn't risk a non dealer service on an in warranty vehicle.

of course it voids the warranty if you dont fit genuine ford parts,thats why its a genuine ford oil filter but you dont need to go to a main dealer to have one fitted!
You’ll have to prove it if there’s a problem. You take it on trust from your garage. For piece of mind I’d go main dealer.

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #61 on: February 06, 2019, 04:02:46 pm »
Daz wake up mate. Your diesel heater don't need servicing. Stop the man maths to justify things. Just fix your diesel leak yourself.
It's not rocket science. If you carry on like this you will have £10k invested in this heater before you know it.

what are you on about?if i do go ahead with the service then ill have spent just around £5k altogether....

How much will my diesel heater cost over 5 years:

5  x services costing  £474.00 each = £2370.00
5 x trips to Cambridge (loss of earnings based on £250 per day) = £1250.00
5 x 1 years of diesel fuel based on £5 per day - £1200.00 per year = £6000.00

Total including cost of heater (£4500.00) = £14120.00

Thats a lot of cash to have hot water in your van :-)

your figures are way off....it costs me around £80 a month to heat my water so £4400 over 5 years (based on 11 months a year),heater and fitting,£4,500,one service(call it £500)probably wont get it done every year,no earning days lost due to part time hours so one day off wont make a difference to earnings.....£9,400 over 5 years is....

around £36 a week........i can live with that....its not even 1 hours earnings a week! ;D

plus its tax deductable and i get to use hot water on everything (including my van and car once a week!) 8)
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dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #62 on: February 06, 2019, 04:04:47 pm »
I dunno, £80 for a grease monkey to change the oil
So £500 for a “full” service sounds on par

Darran

80 is still steep though as did that include filter and main dealer oil ?

Of course it included filter and oil! ::)roll

This is my point though Daz , I bet you don’t know what filter and oil went in , Euro parts prob , in which case a poor quality filter and the wrong oil , I speak from experience here , you have no problem throwing 500 at grippa maintain 4.5k yet you throw 80 down the backstreet garage to maintain what 20k all in
Surely non Ford parts would invalidate the warranty. I wouldn't risk a non dealer service on an in warranty vehicle.

of course it voids the warranty if you dont fit genuine ford parts,thats why its a genuine ford oil filter but you dont need to go to a main dealer to have one fitted!
You’ll have to prove it if there’s a problem. You take it on trust from your garage. For piece of mind I’d go main dealer.

why should their be a problem?my vans 2 years old with 7k on the clock,its very unlikely to break down in the next year! ;D
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Don Kee

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #63 on: February 06, 2019, 04:10:24 pm »
I dunno, £80 for a grease monkey to change the oil
So £500 for a “full” service sounds on par

Darran

80 is still steep though as did that include filter and main dealer oil ?

Of course it included filter and oil! ::)roll

This is my point though Daz , I bet you don’t know what filter and oil went in , Euro parts prob , in which case a poor quality filter and the wrong oil , I speak from experience here , you have no problem throwing 500 at grippa maintain 4.5k yet you throw 80 down the backstreet garage to maintain what 20k all in
Surely non Ford parts would invalidate the warranty. I wouldn't risk a non dealer service on an in warranty vehicle.

of course it voids the warranty if you dont fit genuine ford parts,thats why its a genuine ford oil filter but you dont need to go to a main dealer to have one fitted!
You’ll have to prove it if there’s a problem. You take it on trust from your garage. For piece of mind I’d go main dealer.

I wouldn’t worry, tapping into the fuel line has probably already voided the warranty anyway.

Don Kee

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #64 on: February 06, 2019, 04:12:00 pm »

why should their be a problem?my vans 2 years old with 7k on the clock,its very unlikely to break down in the next year! ;D

Agreed, almost as unlikely as getting a fuel leak.

Smudger

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #65 on: February 06, 2019, 04:13:46 pm »
That’s only 21 pence an hour 😁

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The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #66 on: February 06, 2019, 04:24:40 pm »
You can use a garage to service your vehicle without warranty issues as long as the garage you are using are vat registered and using genuine manufactures parts for your make of vehicle. You just need a full itemised invoice as proof.

Renault quoted me almost £500 for my full  service which includes diesel filter replacement.  I got a quote for £300  for the same service from an ex Renault dealer.

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dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #67 on: February 06, 2019, 04:46:56 pm »
ill be using my local VW/AUDI main dealer for servicing my golf GTD  when it comes up(its a year old in april)because its convenient.its only a 5 min walk away........ill also be handing it back to the leasing company after 3 years and getting another brand new one once the warranty runs out....so want the service record to be good.....

with the van ill pay the balloon after 5 years and keep it most probably as itll only have around 17k on the clock! ;D
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p1w1

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #68 on: February 06, 2019, 05:17:28 pm »
I dunno, £80 for a grease monkey to change the oil
So £500 for a “full” service sounds on par

Darran

80 is still steep though as did that include filter and main dealer oil ?

Of course it included filter and oil! ::)roll

This is my point though Daz , I bet you don’t know what filter and oil went in , Euro parts prob , in which case a poor quality filter and the wrong oil , I speak from experience here , you have no problem throwing 500 at grippa maintain 4.5k yet you throw 80 down the backstreet garage to maintain what 20k all in
Surely non Ford parts would invalidate the warranty. I wouldn't risk a non dealer service on an in warranty vehicle.

of course it voids the warranty if you dont fit genuine ford parts,thats why its a genuine ford oil filter but you dont need to go to a main dealer to have one fitted!
You’ll have to prove it if there’s a problem. You take it on trust from your garage. For piece of mind I’d go main dealer.

I wouldn’t worry, tapping into the fuel line has probably already voided the warranty anyway.
Doesn't void the warranty, well doesn't on mine anyway.

deeege

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #69 on: February 07, 2019, 09:49:34 am »
Having a read of this thread is a great reminder to never bother with one of these diesel heaters.

Paying £500 and driving 350 miles to get them to fix a system that they fitted less than 12 months ago?!?!?!? Madness Daz.

We’ve only had 2 minus temp mornings all winter 😂
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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #70 on: February 07, 2019, 10:59:15 am »
Having a read of this thread is a great reminder to never bother with one of these diesel heaters.

Paying £500 and driving 350 miles to get them to fix a system that they fitted less than 12 months ago?!?!?!? Madness Daz.

We’ve only had 2 minus temp mornings all winter 😂

This is why I build my own if possible, I can now get 60 degree water from a cold tank, and all for £200 outlay and half a litre of diesel an hour .
If the heater itself breaks it’s only £135 to get the complete unit !
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

John Mart

Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #71 on: February 07, 2019, 11:38:29 am »
Having a read of this thread is a great reminder to never bother with one of these diesel heaters.

Paying £500 and driving 350 miles to get them to fix a system that they fitted less than 12 months ago?!?!?!? Madness Daz.

We’ve only had 2 minus temp mornings all winter 😂
That's the truth. I might be tempted if I worked alone. A lovely warm pole in the morning.  ;D

deeege

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #72 on: February 07, 2019, 11:51:21 am »
Think I’d rather invest in a good pair of gloves. As Dazmond said himself the cleaning power of hot water is exactly the same as using cold, so the only benefit is warm hands?

£10k over 5 years buys a lot of gloves 😂
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The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #73 on: February 07, 2019, 12:02:53 pm »
Do you change your glow plugs on your van every year too?  ;D

Did you ask for the full service or were you told to have it done to fix your leak? 
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dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #74 on: February 07, 2019, 12:37:19 pm »
Do you change your glow plugs on your van every year too?  ;D

Did you ask for the full service or were you told to have it done to fix your leak?

I enquired about a service on tuesday....grippa haven't got back to me yet regarding a date....it'll keep my heater in warranty.... :)
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dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #75 on: February 07, 2019, 12:40:31 pm »
Having a read of this thread is a great reminder to never bother with one of these diesel heaters.

Paying £500 and driving 350 miles to get them to fix a system that they fitted less than 12 months ago?!?!?!? Madness Daz.

We’ve only had 2 minus temp mornings all winter 😂

Each to their own Danny......the heater is actually 14 months old.....I'd still rather use hot water every day than cold.the expense doesn't bother me one bit.....
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jonboywalton75

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #76 on: February 07, 2019, 01:53:17 pm »
I'm actually starting to believe that window cleaning is one of Daz's hobbies, he doesn't do it for money at all.
He loves it, all the toys he has are just like buying a new guitar, fishing rod or season ticket for your footy team, like the rest of all us phlebs do.
I actually do waste some money on my hobbies now and again, but Daz's window cleaning addiction is starting to worry me.
If he had a wife she'd hide his bank card on him, or divorce him😊😊😊

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #77 on: February 07, 2019, 03:40:43 pm »
I'm actually starting to believe that window cleaning is one of Daz's hobbies, he doesn't do it for money at all.
He loves it, all the toys he has are just like buying a new guitar, fishing rod or season ticket for your footy team, like the rest of all us phlebs do.
I actually do waste some money on my hobbies now and again, but Daz's window cleaning addiction is starting to worry me.
If he had a wife she'd hide his bank card on him, or divorce him😊😊😊

so you dont want to know about me spending over £1200 on  3 drums then,special order bespoke made.....16-20 week lead time......now thats my REAL hobby! ;)

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Dave Willis

Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #78 on: February 07, 2019, 04:15:20 pm »
Dazmond, are you Nathan?

The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #79 on: February 07, 2019, 06:06:03 pm »
Well I have just picked up a huge commercial regular contract today worth a small fortune to me.   Was told the reason why they chose me was because they liked the fact that I used a hot water system dispite not being the cheapest quote.

So I guess it does pay for itself in the long term.
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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #80 on: February 07, 2019, 06:16:30 pm »
I'm actually starting to believe that window cleaning is one of Daz's hobbies, he doesn't do it for money at all.
He loves it, all the toys he has are just like buying a new guitar, fishing rod or season ticket for your footy team, like the rest of all us phlebs do.
I actually do waste some money on my hobbies now and again, but Daz's window cleaning addiction is starting to worry me.
If he had a wife she'd hide his bank card on him, or divorce him😊😊😊

so you dont want to know about me spending over £1200 on  3 drums then,special order bespoke made.....16-20 week lead time......now thats my REAL hobby! ;)

mapex saturn v blue water maple burl 3 piece shell pack(classic rock sizes).....maple and walnut shells....a work of art! 8)

So £1200 on drums
£4500 on a heater
Which is your real hobbie Daz😊😊😊😊????

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #81 on: February 07, 2019, 07:13:41 pm »
you ve obviously not seen my flat then!ive got 2 drum kits already!(one electronic),various cymbals,3 snare drums,roto toms,bongos,various percussion,etc.....ill be getting rid of my gigging kit when my new drums arrive....keep the cymbals,stands,2 snare drums to add to the 3 piece shell pack... ;)
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The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #82 on: February 07, 2019, 07:18:51 pm »
you ve obviously not seen my flat then!ive got 2 drum kits already!(one electronic),various cymbals,3 snare drums,roto toms,bongos,various percussion,etc.....ill be getting rid of my gigging kit when my new drums arrive....keep the cymbals,stands,2 snare drums to add to the 3 piece shell pack... ;)

Bet your neighbours are peed at the noise you make with your toys,  missus and not forgetting the sound of a jet engine during cold nights   ;D
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dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #83 on: February 07, 2019, 07:20:19 pm »
you ve obviously not seen my flat then!ive got 2 drum kits already!(one electronic),various cymbals,3 snare drums,roto toms,bongos,various percussion,etc.....ill be getting rid of my gigging kit when my new drums arrive....keep the cymbals,stands,2 snare drums to add to the 3 piece shell pack... ;)

Bet your neighbours are peed at the noise you make with your toys,  missus and not forgetting the sound of a jet engine during cold nights   ;D

the neighbours are too scared to say anything mate.... ;)
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KS Cleaning

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #84 on: February 07, 2019, 11:22:17 pm »
you ve obviously not seen my flat then!ive got 2 drum kits already!(one electronic),various cymbals,3 snare drums,roto toms,bongos,various percussion,etc.....ill be getting rid of my gigging kit when my new drums arrive....keep the cymbals,stands,2 snare drums to add to the 3 piece shell pack... ;)

Bet your neighbours are peed at the noise you make with your toys,  missus and not forgetting the sound of a jet engine during cold nights   ;D

the neighbours are too scared to say anything mate.... ;)
You better hope Susan’s hubby doesn’t move next door then🥊🥊

The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #85 on: February 18, 2019, 08:28:47 pm »
Have you fixed it yet?
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dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #86 on: February 18, 2019, 08:46:36 pm »
Have you fixed it yet?

yep its been fixed....the mechanic at the garage tightened a few clips and put some diesel tank sealant around them....its now leak free.cost me £60....he wasnt impressed with some of the pipe work going to the top of the fuel sender,basically grippatank botched some of the pipework and put a T piece in when it should of been a straight 2 piece barb and screwed a nut into the spare end.... ::)roll...not impressed with them one bit if im honest..... ::)roll
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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #87 on: February 18, 2019, 08:57:16 pm »
Ah but wasn’t that t piece originally used as the feed before the fuelling problem was discovered ?
They have only done what anybody would have done with regard to blanking one side off as opposed to re plumbing it all , wouldn’t have ever been an issue if it didn’t leak , but leaks do happen  as we all know
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #88 on: February 18, 2019, 09:14:49 pm »
Ah but wasn’t that t piece originally used as the feed before the fuelling problem was discovered ?
They have only done what anybody would have done with regard to blanking one side off as opposed to re plumbing it all , wouldn’t have ever been an issue if it didn’t leak , but leaks do happen  as we all know

do you think jubilee clips on plastic pipe is a good way to seal the pipes and keep them leak free?....the mechanic doesnt think so....

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dazmond

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #89 on: February 18, 2019, 09:20:49 pm »
Ah but wasn’t that t piece originally used as the feed before the fuelling problem was discovered ?
They have only done what anybody would have done with regard to blanking one side off as opposed to re plumbing it all , wouldn’t have ever been an issue if it didn’t leak , but leaks do happen  as we all know

yeah your probably right rich......
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dd

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #90 on: February 18, 2019, 10:06:42 pm »
Ah but wasn’t that t piece originally used as the feed before the fuelling problem was discovered ?
They have only done what anybody would have done with regard to blanking one side off as opposed to re plumbing it all , wouldn’t have ever been an issue if it didn’t leak , but leaks do happen  as we all know
No. It should have been done properly the first time. No excuse for not sorting it properly on the second attempt.

The reason you pay a reputable company to install equipment is you want it done right, not botched.

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Re: diesel tank leaking/diesel heater leaking?
« Reply #91 on: February 19, 2019, 08:42:00 am »
You never mentioned plastic pipe and jubilee clips Daz!
I assumed a metal pickup pipe onto rubber fuel lines with brass t piece which would all be fine apart from the jubilee clips , my choice would have been single ear jobs or strong spring ring clips .
It does sound a bit of a rush job to be honest, and for 5k I would have expected more.
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !