At times in the winter you can't just plough on regardless when you live and work in the north.
Quite true
I just think some of us live in two different worlds on here and its easy to forget that.
Just because one person has no problem sticking out a few thousand leaflets and raking in £20 15 min jobs doesnt mean someone somewhere else in the country isnt doing exactly the same thing with much poorer results. Sometimes its not lack of mentality, attitude or application its simply we have totally different markets.
You cant compare working in the leafy suburbs of surrey to the ex mining towns of the north, its the same country but worlds apart.
i agree as well adam......i still cant bring myself to believe that someone can turnover 90k a year cleaning windows on their own......do you know anyone?.....no neither do i! 
......in fact most window cleaners i know are just about scratching a living together...... 
Look to yourselves.
Most window cleaners here are just about scratching a living! I have two local windies that repeatedly tell me that leaflets don't work. Shrek was saying the other day that his average job is £22 and he's in the north. Adam was saying he's had 150 non payers? That tells me he's targeting the bottom of the market.
Re: the snow. Put it in the contract that days lost through extreme conditions get made up with Saturday work. We lost two days in the snow as I deemed the roads unsafe.
Stop modded whining and man up!
With the greatest of respect youve no idea what you are talking about.
So that's where I'm going wrong, I'm targeting the bottom of the market...
You've just made my point you are looking at it from your perspective based on your experience in your area.
Shrek doesn't live near me either...
Unless you are from the area I am you have no business telling me what can and can't be done.
I am targeting the bottom of the market? I work in the best areas of my city, please show me where the top end is because I don't see no millionaire's round here... houses round here start from 60k for a terraced, this isn't Cheshire mate it's west Yorkshire.
You are out of touch with reality for a lot of cleaners and you are out of touch with what life is like in other parts of the country.
So you're saying Northerners are by nature criminal and don't pay bills?
I’ve read and re-read his post multiple times and I’ve no idea how you came to this conclusion Steve 
Because he says that non payers on that scale is something that is somehow peculiar to the north (or his part of it). In 8 years I seriously doubt I've had 10 non payers, yet he's had 150 or so in a few months. So it's either a northern thing or his targeting shyte houses and areas.
People that say they want to achieve this that and the other generally fail either because they aren't bright enough or aren't focussed. Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't Gomo gone from employing to not employing to employing again. Then saying it doesn't work. Hasn't he now set up a marketing initiative for other window cleaners? Yet he can't gain decent work for himself. Does this indicate single mindedness to you? He's defeated before he even starts. There's plenty around here like that too.
There's nothing genius about employing, gaining work or cleaning windows. In fact there's nothing genius about any business in the domestic service area, but you do need commitment and focus to build a solid one man business or a multi van business. Whining gets you nowhere.
Before launching back Adam, consider the wisdom in the above.
Absolutely, you need a thick skin and determination to push through.
You are right I am easily beaten. I don't take set backs well. I am very indecisive and change my mind daily on whether to employ or stay solo, probably because I don't really know what I want. Some days I'm positive other days I'm negative, that's just how i am.
I do have decent work though, for the area I work I have decently priced work..
The reason I had so many non payers is because I had most of my work canvassed.
I wasn't whining though, i was just pointing out facts that different areas have different markets, it was initially about paying employees and you saying pay a good wage...and that it would be easier to pay an employee a good wage in an area where they can turnover 90k as apposed to an area where prices are lower and less profit margins.