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philb

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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2017, 03:04:07 pm »
I guess it's upto you if you want to go out of your way for less money & if you over estimated it enough to extend such generosity.

I canvassed a house the other day near where I clean a house. Quoted £12. Got told it was too much. I for some reason asked how much he was thinking & got told £8. We agreed on £10 & off I went. 10mins later got a text from him "spoke to friends & family and it's too much so will leave it". 

Sometimes a good deed isn't appreciated or recognised

Johnny B

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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2017, 03:58:03 pm »
I guess it's upto you if you want to go out of your way for less money & if you over estimated it enough to extend such generosity.

I canvassed a house the other day near where I clean a house. Quoted £12. Got told it was too much. I for some reason asked how much he was thinking & got told £8. We agreed on £10 & off I went. 10mins later got a text from him "spoke to friends & family and it's too much so will leave it". 

Sometimes a good deed isn't appreciated or recognised

I agree with you. In my experience, the ones who  you give a discount to are usually the ones who either mess you about or expect add ons done for free. They would also drop you like a stone as soon as someone cheaper comes along.

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jo5hm4n

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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2017, 04:40:53 pm »
Lots of varied comments on this thread, i do appreciate everybodies input though.  First of all i don't get all of my quotes every time, just lately think im on a good run, that's all so my point was it's not so bad giving discount to a customer every once in a blue moon is it?  Also, if it was some rich OAP or a client with big flash house and cars, then ofcourse there's no chance of them getting discount.  I rarely ever ask a customer, how much you would be happy to pay.  Think that's the second time i have ever done that, in my mind if i feel i may not get the job anyway, i dont really care at that point if i ask a question that is deemed somewhat slightly unprofessional.

I'm siding with Paul on this one, maybe sometimes it's just nice to think your helping somebody out, maybe they genuinely are struggling and knocking a few quid off isn't going too make much of a difference to my business really.  I also get that most of you are probably right, if i take this job on, she probably will end up being a messer, but you just never know until you atleast try.

I took on an old lady as a customer, first time i quoted was 2 years ago i said it's £9, she said no chance last windie charged £5.  So i said the price is the price.  2 years later, she asks me to quote forgetting she already asked me before, i said its still £9.  She said, look im an OAP i dont have pots of money i live alone i try and save money where i can, can you do it for £7?

I thought about it, and yeah go one then, its NO BIG DEAL, is it?  Since then, shes got me 5 customers in the same road, all pay on the day, when i go to hers now i do about £50 of work in an hour.

Sometimes you don't know what hand the universe will deal you, maybe sometimes you do have to occasionally drop your price, who knows maybe it will work in your favour long term.

I'll text this woman back tell her £10 every 8 weeks, lets see how long she lasts :D

I'll keep this thread updated.

Cheers Guys

jonboywalton75

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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2017, 04:56:32 pm »
What does she look like?  ;D
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davids3511

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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2017, 05:01:04 pm »
What does she look like?  ;D
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jonboywalton75

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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2017, 05:22:45 pm »
I'll give you that one Dave!!

Marc Stock

Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2017, 03:54:32 pm »
Bottom line is this.

You are running a business to make a profit.

If you still think you can make a profit at her budget. Great. Get on with it.

If you can't. ..then forget it and move on.

Now if you are feeling charitable, and it bothers you that much. Do it for free just once.


robbo333

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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2017, 05:34:05 pm »
If it were me, I would clean it for her.
It sounds as though you're already thinking of doing it (otherwise you wouldn't have posted on here).
The upside is your doing a nice thing for someone (and I believe, what goes round comes round).
The downside is she's a messer and you've lost a few quid (it was hardly best paying job of the year)
Most importantly, your gut reaction is to clean it and sometimes it's nice to know if your gut reaction is right or wrong (and you won't know that until further down the line).
I turn down loads of cleans on gut reaction. Occasionally, I'll take one on just to see if i'm right and most of the time I am right. However on the odd occasion I get it wrong.
But I don't make a habit of it.
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The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2017, 05:38:04 pm »
I wonder if she pops into Tesco and asked for discount every time she goes through the till.  Would Tesco say Yes? No because they are a business  ;D
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nathankaye

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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2017, 05:44:03 pm »
I wonder if she pops into Tesco and asked for discount every time she goes through the till.  Would Tesco say Yes? No because they are a business  ;D

However saying that......it is a typical British thing to just simply accept the price tag on things,  especially electrical goods.  But I saw something on TV about asking for a better deal and it worked. Since then, when im buying electrical goods, ie TV's   fridges etc etc, I always ask and its surprising what results I get.
Lol, know that was a total side point but still kinda relative
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robbo333

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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2017, 05:57:10 pm »
I wonder if she pops into Tesco and asked for discount every time she goes through the till.  Would Tesco say Yes? No because they are a business  ;D

I know what you are saying but...
she didn't actually ask for a discount, she turned him down flat.
Only when prompted, did she come up with a figure of 10 squid.
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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2017, 06:06:26 pm »
If as you have already said , in your opinion, its a £12 house then why quote her £14 for 4 weekly ?
Is the job that is nearby a 4 weekly or an 8 weekly ? If ( as you seem to be indicating ) you are feeling charitable, providing it fits in with the other job, compromise and offer to do for £12 and insist that is your lowest price. A £12 job to me would equate to about 15 mins work but only you will know and just how close or convenient it is to the nearby job ? Depends also if you are looking to expand on your work. Only you are really going to know if its worth it or not.

jo5hm4n

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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2017, 06:22:23 pm »
Yes Marc and Robbo, spot on with those comments.  I can justify it, and as you say sometimes you should just go with your gut reaction.  It was my gut reaction that led to me even considering it in the first place, which is why i even bothered to make this post.

I'll text her soon keep you all updated lol.  Watch it now, she will be like, naaa is okay ive changed my mind  :o :o

Smudger

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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2017, 06:38:28 pm »
If I was quoted a price then the price dropped 30% I'd be thinking that the guy is overcharging in the first place

Rather than lower the price I'd offer a loyalty bonus - usually half price clean after 6 full price cleans.

From experience anyone not happy from the get go won't last more than 2 or 3 cleans and usually have to chase for payment

But good luck with it

Darran
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Walter Mitty

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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2017, 11:27:56 pm »
Not read the thread but £10 for two monthly is the same outlay for her as £15 x 3 monthly (and a better price for you).  That's if you end up bothering with it at all.  Sounds like it'll only be a one off if she even bothers.

jo5hm4n

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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2017, 09:53:25 pm »
Quick update

Listened to what Nathan said, take her as a customer but on my terms.  Told her it's £12 8 weekly if she wants it for £10, fine no problem but several windows will be missed.  She said thats fine leave out back 2 downstairs windows.  Fab, turned up today, windows were a right state, but she had left money out for me and she was home anyway, did the job and left.  Next time im thinking probs 10 min job.  Not gonna lie though, she did look proper chavvy, is that enough to stereotype her into saying she will be a messer?

Find out when im due back in 8  weeks time  ;D ;D

We should have a poll, who reckons she will be a one off clean / last a few cleans / last the year / or be a total messer like everybody said she would be  8) 8) 8)

robbo333

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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2017, 10:49:48 pm »
Perhaps you should have just treated it as a 'charity case' and done a good deed; the whole lot for a tenner and felt good that you've done something nice for someone, who perhaps could do with a 'leg up', both financially and socially.

Or perhaps you should have just turned it down flat because, from a business point of view, it makes no sense.

Not sure you should really 'label' her because of her looks, I think that's a bit unfair. After all you did ask her how much she wanted to pay £10. You then turn up and say you will only clean some windows (which she agreed) and then she actually leaves you the money out.

I'd be feeling a bit ashamed and embarrassed about now...but that's just me.
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KS Cleaning

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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2017, 12:14:25 am »
Quick update

Listened to what Nathan said, take her as a customer but on my terms.  Told her it's £12 8 weekly if she wants it for £10, fine no problem but several windows will be missed.  She said thats fine leave out back 2 downstairs windows.  Fab, turned up today, windows were a right state, but she had left money out for me and she was home anyway, did the job and left.  Next time im thinking probs 10 min job.  Not gonna lie though, she did look proper chavvy, is that enough to stereotype her into saying she will be a messer?

Find out when im due back in 8  weeks time  ;D ;D

We should have a poll, who reckons she will be a one off clean / last a few cleans / last the year / or be a total messer like everybody said she would be  8) 8) 8)
So you initially wanted £16 for an eight weekly schedule then you have ended up doing a first clean for a customer that you suspect might be a messer for £10  ??? and the windows were a real state!  As for missing out two windows :o

jo5hm4n

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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2017, 12:50:20 am »
Perhaps you should have just treated it as a 'charity case' and done a good deed; the whole lot for a tenner and felt good that you've done something nice for someone, who perhaps could do with a 'leg up', both financially and socially.

Or perhaps you should have just turned it down flat because, from a business point of view, it makes no sense.

Not sure you should really 'label' her because of her looks, I think that's a bit unfair. After all you did ask her how much she wanted to pay £10. You then turn up and say you will only clean some windows (which she agreed) and then she actually leaves you the money out.

I'd be feeling a bit ashamed and embarrassed about now...but that's just me.


Too late now for that it's already started so will see the i progress with the customer.  I was joking about her looks, ofcourse that has nothing to do with whether she will be a messer or not, she just looked a bit rough round the edges shall we say, could end up being a really good customer for all i know though.

From a business point of view aslong as i earn a good amount per hour that is the main thing that matters, i overpriced the job in the first place because my schedule is nearly full so by raising prices i can slowly eventually dissolve lower priced customers or slight messers.  Once again i titled this post should i be kind, because at this point money wasn't really the concern dropping the price by a few £££ wasn't an issue, but as a few people said on here, atleast do it on your terms.  She wouldn't go higher then £10, so the only way i could barter with her was to clean less windows which she was more than happy with, she said she just couldn't afford more than a tenner.  Just to clarify this is a one off.  I dont normally run my business like this.  The price is the price and that's that, this was a totally isolated instance, which is why i made a post about it, i decided to take a different approach just this once, ideally to try and help somebody out who clearly can't afford to pay standard prices.

None of this will matter when she probably does turn out to be a messer.  But maybe the fact that so many people on here said, don't bother she is probably a messer, this could turn out totally different if she now actually turns out to be a really good customer.  Time will tell.

jo5hm4n

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Re: Should i be kind?
« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2017, 12:56:31 am »
Quick update

Listened to what Nathan said, take her as a customer but on my terms.  Told her it's £12 8 weekly if she wants it for £10, fine no problem but several windows will be missed.  She said thats fine leave out back 2 downstairs windows.  Fab, turned up today, windows were a right state, but she had left money out for me and she was home anyway, did the job and left.  Next time im thinking probs 10 min job.  Not gonna lie though, she did look proper chavvy, is that enough to stereotype her into saying she will be a messer?

Find out when im due back in 8  weeks time  ;D ;D

We should have a poll, who reckons she will be a one off clean / last a few cleans / last the year / or be a total messer like everybody said she would be  8) 8) 8)
So you initially wanted £16 for an eight weekly schedule then you have ended up doing a first clean for a customer that you suspect might be a messer for £10  ??? and the windows were a real state!  As for missing out two windows :o

It's in an affluent area where there are lots of big and expensive houses in the countryside, naturally i price higher.  If the job was in a town i would of quoted at £14 8 weekly.  I agreed to do it for £12 8 weekly same price as 4 weekly.  She said she couldn't budge on price, so i said fine i can do for £10 but will have to miss a few windows, she was more than happy with that.  Windows were filthy, but i've done about 5 first cleans this week alone and they were all dirty, makes no difference unless ofcourse they do end up to be a messer.

It's only 1 customer, the rest of my round isn't run like this, i made an exception just this once  8) 8)