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nathankaye

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Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2017, 11:25:19 am »
Haha, i view like an excercise as if its doing me some good, probably isnt but heyho ;D

But certainly, its whatever works per person inorder for us to make our millions
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Tony dunmall

Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2017, 04:41:02 pm »
Uni valve on all 10 poles , Over a year old on all them. I'm guessing they'll all break at once ..LOL

Very happy although I do still tend to fold the hose as I'm working, old habits die hard

I've never used anything else as I never liked the original aqua adoptor as didn't like the length or weigh it added and was happy with bending hose, had worked this way for over 20 years

But I wanted to use the exceed tubeless kit so thought I'd give them a go really pleased

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2017, 07:13:56 pm »
Uni valve on all 10 poles , Over a year old on all them. I'm guessing they'll all break at once ..LOL

Very happy although I do still tend to fold the hose as I'm working, old habits die hard

I've never used anything else as I never liked the original aqua adoptor as didn't like the length or weigh it added and was happy with bending hose, had worked this way for over 20 years

But I wanted to use the exceed tubeless kit so thought I'd give them a go really pleased

how did you find them this winter for freezeing up ?

DeLuce

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Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2017, 07:47:27 pm »
I've had a brass tap strapped to the pole when I first started. Then I 'progressed' to the Gardiner pole tap which I held in my hand with a loop of pole hose, switched it on /off with my thumb, simple as you can get! But found the loop slightly annoying at times. ( Can never understand why anyone would put  a pole tap by the brush head  ???)
But, like the idea of the Univalve and tubeless set-up.  Converted both my poles  when the univalve came out and am extremely pleased. I cannot see how to make it any better. No loop of hose, a simple pull on/off.
Get the Univalve fella, you'll be impressed.

Simon Trapani

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Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2017, 07:48:51 pm »
Univalve...I've not tried any thing else as in my eyes the univalve would be hard to beat  so no need too ;)
I agree totally.

nathankaye

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Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2017, 08:57:02 pm »
I might be over thinking this...... (genuinely asking)
I like the tap valve and holster at my side so when i walk off to next house all im carrying is my pole and pole hose. As in no bending down trying to pick main hose up so connections dont damage scraping on floor etc.        I understand how, once at the house, how quick the univalve will alow you to work...........but if like me cleaning house  after house on one street, do you just drag your main hose with you via pulling the pole hose or do you have to scoop main hose up after the job to carry the hose in one hand to the next job??
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DeLuce

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Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2017, 09:39:14 pm »
You can just drag the whole lot sometimes if it doesn't feel too weighty! But at times, when I've got 30m+ out, I just loop up the pole hose into my hand until I reach the microbore then haul it round, especially corners over distance. That's all. No big deal. Then once I'm round a corner, drop it and off I go again.

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2017, 09:49:55 pm »
I think I understand your point Nathan. When you have a tap in the hose you either have to drag it along the floor which I can imagine is a right pain as it would surely snag, or you keep it in your hand or fix it to your belt with a holster. That would leave a loop of pole hose when working with your pole collapsed. I didnt find this too annoying (i worked with a trigger attached to my pole for seven years) and kinda got used to it. But like you say if you pick up your pole hose and carry it between houses you are not trailing it so it can't snag on anything.
Having said all that, if you fit a univalve in your pole you have no loop of hose big enough to snag on anything. It is possible to unintentionally activate the valve if you are pulling a lot of hose behind you, say micro or minibore as it can be quite heavy. however, this can be addressed by taking hold of the hose an arms length from the bottom of the pole and keeping it in your fingers as you carry your pole to the next job, this way the weight of the hose is carried by your fingers instead of pulling on the valve.
I was sceptical about it but as I've said before, I felt like a dog let of it's leash when I put a univalve in my pole. I originally combined it with exceeds tubeless kit which was good but now I prefer the simplicity of using a JG connector at the base of the pole thus


Tony dunmall

Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2017, 09:50:20 pm »
Uni valve on all 10 poles , Over a year old on all them. I'm guessing they'll all break at once ..LOL

Very happy although I do still tend to fold the hose as I'm working, old habits die hard

I've never used anything else as I never liked the original aqua adoptor as didn't like the length or weigh it added and was happy with bending hose, had worked this way for over 20 years

But I wanted to use the exceed tubeless kit so thought I'd give them a go really pleased

how did you find them this winter for freezeing up ?

Hi Susan

Not an issue,

i use the tubeless kit from exceed so when I disconnect I make sure I tug off then pull to disconnect which leave the valve open (so can be a double movement). But it means valve is open shake pole and all water drains out of valve and pole -8 to -9 couple times not frozen

M & C Window Cleaning

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Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2017, 09:59:28 pm »
Uni valve on all 10 poles , Over a year old on all them. I'm guessing they'll all break at once ..LOL

Very happy although I do still tend to fold the hose as I'm working, old habits die hard

I've never used anything else as I never liked the original aqua adoptor as didn't like the length or weigh it added and was happy with bending hose, had worked this way for over 20 years

But I wanted to use the exceed tubeless kit so thought I'd give them a go really pleased

how did you find them this winter for freezeing up ?

Hi Susan

Not an issue,

i use the tubeless kit from exceed so when I disconnect I make sure I tug off then pull to disconnect which leave the valve open (so can be a double movement). But it means valve is open shake pole and all water drains out of valve and pole -8 to -9 couple times not frozen

I forgot to open one of mine one night and it did freeze but it worked fine once  I thawed it out. However, I haven't done it since. I didn't want to take the chance on splitting it.

duncan h

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Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2017, 05:54:31 pm »
You can just drag the whole lot sometimes if it doesn't feel too weighty! But at times, when I've got 30m+ out, I just loop up the pole hose into my hand until I reach the microbore then haul it round, especially corners over distance. That's all. No big deal. Then once I'm round a corner, drop it and off I go again.
+1

nathankaye

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Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2017, 10:30:00 pm »
Swings n roundabouts then........for me that sounds like a faff.    I dont mind my pole holse connected on a holster. I use 2 holsters so my main hose is wrapped round back of my wsist, so my main hose is always trailing behind me, so all im carrying is my pole.
However the only faff i have is first connecting all upto my holsters, but saying that, once thats done at begining of day, i may only take it off once or twice pending which round it was. So if i was only doing the odd houses here n there than it would be a different story n can see the many advantages of the univalve instead
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Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2017, 09:24:39 am »
Swings n roundabouts then........for me that sounds like a faff.    I dont mind my pole holse connected on a holster. I use 2 holsters so my main hose is wrapped round back of my wsist, so my main hose is always trailing behind me, so all im carrying is my pole.
However the only faff i have is first connecting all upto my holsters, but saying that, once thats done at begining of day, i may only take it off once or twice pending which round it was. So if i was only doing the odd houses here n there than it would be a different story n can see the many advantages of the univalve instead

what all this holster thing ?        " is that you john wayne ? "       

Jays Window Cleaning

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Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2017, 10:17:18 am »
What pole hose do you guys use with the uni value ?  I'm getting fed up with the yellow pole hose from gardiners because In the winter it's coils up and a pain to work with .

nathankaye

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Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2017, 01:20:02 pm »
What pole hose do you guys use with the uni value ?  I'm getting fed up with the yellow pole hose from gardiners because In the winter it's coils up and a pain to work with .

I find i have that problem. I used to use unger green reinforced hise but my supplier discontinued it and had no choice but to use the yellow.
However now i stick 2 500w fish tank heaters in my 500ltr tank over night. Gets the water between 30 n 40 degrees c. Its enough to soften the hoses which is great.
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Jays Window Cleaning

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Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2017, 02:03:33 pm »
Then when it gets cold it's worst lol I use hot water but only really when I need too . I don't really want to use hot water just to soften the yellow hose . I'm using a gardiners tap push fit ones cable tide and taped with electrical tape. And have worked like that for years . But since I've had a back problem I'm thinking uni value would be better . Expecially when cleaning a window over the top over a conservatory. To much of a pain turning a tap of when scrubbing then turning it back on to rinse . Yes I understand we can just leave water going but I dont like to waste to much water.

Dry Clean

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Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2017, 02:26:41 pm »
Then when it gets cold it's worst lol I use hot water but only really when I need too . I don't really want to use hot water just to soften the yellow hose . I'm using a gardiners tap push fit ones cable tide and taped with electrical tape. And have worked like that for years . But since I've had a back problem I'm thinking uni value would be better . Expecially when cleaning a window over the top over a conservatory. To much of a pain turning a tap of when scrubbing then turning it back on to rinse . Yes I understand we can just leave water going but I dont like to waste to much water.

Don't see how a uni valve would help with a back problem if anything it would make things worse, faffing about with one hand
yanking your pole hose while trying to hold the pole with the other. no thanks.
Pole end supported against my leg or body leaves me one hand free to switch of a tap, you cant get any easier.

nathankaye

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Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2017, 02:34:06 pm »
I use the gardiner tap valves and a tap holster which fits on my belt. (Posted a pic on a post above) so its really easy, hold pole with one hand, reach down to side to flip valve.
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KS Cleaning

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Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2017, 03:07:29 pm »
Then when it gets cold it's worst lol I use hot water but only really when I need too . I don't really want to use hot water just to soften the yellow hose . I'm using a gardiners tap push fit ones cable tide and taped with electrical tape. And have worked like that for years . But since I've had a back problem I'm thinking uni value would be better . Expecially when cleaning a window over the top over a conservatory. To much of a pain turning a tap of when scrubbing then turning it back on to rinse . Yes I understand we can just leave water going but I dont like to waste to much water.

Don't see how a uni valve would help with a back problem if anything it would make things worse, faffing about with one hand
yanking your pole hose while trying to hold the pole with the other. no thanks.
Pole end supported against my leg or body leaves me one hand free to switch of a tap, you cant get any easier.
Yes you can, using the univalve is a doddle. I turn the water off whilst my brush head is on the window sill or frame, absolutely no need to have the pole supported by your leg or body when turning the water on/off.

Dry Clean

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Re: Aquadapter or Univalve?
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2017, 03:18:19 pm »
Then when it gets cold it's worst lol I use hot water but only really when I need too . I don't really want to use hot water just to soften the yellow hose . I'm using a gardiners tap push fit ones cable tide and taped with electrical tape. And have worked like that for years . But since I've had a back problem I'm thinking uni value would be better . Expecially when cleaning a window over the top over a conservatory. To much of a pain turning a tap of when scrubbing then turning it back on to rinse . Yes I understand we can just leave water going but I dont like to waste to much water.

Don't see how a uni valve would help with a back problem if anything it would make things worse, faffing about with one hand
yanking your pole hose while trying to hold the pole with the other. no thanks.
Pole end supported against my leg or body leaves me one hand free to switch of a tap, you cant get any easier.
Yes you can, using the univalve is a doddle. I turn the water off whilst my brush head is on the window sill or frame, absolutely no need to have the pole supported by your leg or body when turning the water on/off.

Each to their own, I prefer my brush slightly above the sill and not touching the glass when turning my water off, but using
your method surly the aqua tap or Gardiners similar twist device would be a better option as you don't need to remove your
hands at all.