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Tosh

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Re: How much work does a decent website generate
« Reply #80 on: November 24, 2016, 08:55:09 pm »
Dunno  ;D

What you mean, WordPress business package?
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Stoots

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Re: How much work does a decent website generate
« Reply #81 on: November 24, 2016, 09:03:03 pm »
Looks good slack.

It is fairly simple to build a site, but it requires patience at first when learning.

I have just bought this theme, well its a builder of sorts, you can use it as a theme or use child themes with it.

https://www.elegantthemes.com/gallery/divi/

I really should get mine sorted


On the subject i was on about earlier, ive noticed a company local to me who targets multiple citys and locations has created a google place business listing for each web page ,i.e gutter cleaning leeds, conservatory cleaning wakefield, window cleaning sheffield etc etc each have there own web page and associated business listing on google plus.

they are using multiple physical addresses! wonder how they are pulling this off as google send a verification card to your address, crafty idea but a bit dodgy surely? great for seo though



chris turner

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Re: How much work does a decent website generate
« Reply #82 on: November 24, 2016, 11:08:10 pm »
Dunno  ;D

What you mean, WordPress business package?

Yea that's the one, £20 a month.

There's so many options out there, it's all a bit mind boggling for someone who knows very little on websites, hosting, seo etc.
Do I use one of the recommended guys like nat or mike at studio art or do I do it myself with the likes of WordPress, 1on1 etc.
I only want a nice simple site that's easy to find, easy to navigate and picks me up a few extra jobs!

Tosh

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Re: How much work does a decent website generate
« Reply #83 on: November 24, 2016, 11:20:20 pm »
Well, I use Tsohost, it's about £4.00 a month for as many sites as you like.

So long as you're reasonably cool with PC speak and all things technical it's easy. I'm lucky, I've always found computing easy. I'd try it myself if I were you, you've only got 4 squid a month to lose. If you're halfway through and still struggling give Nat a shout.

The reason I like to do it all is that being hands on you can manage all the extras, plugins for various reasons, the SEO, new pages and updates, especially pics (with vans :) ) !! 

AND!!! You get it to look EXACTLY how you want it, without having a game of e-mail ping pong with your web designer. Or having to email them pictures and resizing them and tell them what you want and what to say, feck that, pain in the ariss-hole.
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Tosh

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Re: How much work does a decent website generate
« Reply #84 on: November 24, 2016, 11:24:15 pm »
Going back to that £20 a month charge, I still don't know what that's for, is that what your ISP wants monthly to host a WordPress package? Cos they're ripping you a new one if that's what they want.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

chris turner

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Re: How much work does a decent website generate
« Reply #85 on: November 25, 2016, 07:08:13 am »
Going back to that £20 a month charge, I still don't know what that's for, is that what your ISP wants monthly to host a WordPress package? Cos they're ripping you a new one if that's what they want.

If you go on WordPress.com they have different packages to build your site. The £20 business package includes advanced seo etc.

Stoots

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Re: How much work does a decent website generate
« Reply #86 on: November 25, 2016, 07:08:34 am »
Tso host for me.

Think 4 -5 quid a month for up to 6 domains




Tosh

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Re: How much work does a decent website generate
« Reply #87 on: November 25, 2016, 07:36:09 am »
Going back to that £20 a month charge, I still don't know what that's for, is that what your ISP wants monthly to host a WordPress package? Cos they're ripping you a new one if that's what they want.

If you go on WordPress.com they have different packages to build your site. The £20 business package includes advanced seo etc.

I've never paid WP a penny nor been asked to.
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Nathanael Jones

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Re: How much work does a decent website generate
« Reply #88 on: November 25, 2016, 08:46:41 am »
Wordpress.com is a bad option - its a trimmed down version of wordpress hosted on their servers at a premium price.

If you go with a hosting package from TSO like Slack recommended, then you can install the full version of wordpress (as seen on wordpress.org - not .com), pay a lot less money each month & have a lot more options.

Wordpress is childsplay to use -especially if you choose a theme that uses the visual composer system. :)


Going back to that £20 a month charge, I still don't know what that's for, is that what your ISP wants monthly to host a WordPress package? Cos they're ripping you a new one if that's what they want.

If you go on WordPress.com they have different packages to build your site. The £20 business package includes advanced seo etc.

chris turner

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Re: How much work does a decent website generate
« Reply #89 on: November 25, 2016, 10:04:27 am »
Wordpress.com is a bad option - its a trimmed down version of wordpress hosted on their servers at a premium price.

If you go with a hosting package from TSO like Slack recommended, then you can install the full version of wordpress (as seen on wordpress.org - not .com), pay a lot less money each month & have a lot more options.

Wordpress is childsplay to use -especially if you choose a theme that uses the visual composer system. :)


Going back to that £20 a month charge, I still don't know what that's for, is that what your ISP wants monthly to host a WordPress package? Cos they're ripping you a new one if that's what they want.

If you go on WordPress.com they have different packages to build your site. The £20 business package includes advanced seo etc.

Thanks nat that clears things up, I was just going by the WordPress.com site.
Not doing anything until the new year but want to get my head around the best options before I go ahead.
The site I had a few years ago was a cheap Google diy site, built by myself, looked awful and tbh I didn't have a clue what I was clicking on most of the time ;D
I rarely even go on a computer these days, everything is done on my phone. Anything that needs doing on the laptop is the missis duty!
With the change of direction i want to go in next year then a site is a must, I just want something where I don't have to be to hands on after the initial building stage.


Nathanael Jones

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Re: How much work does a decent website generate
« Reply #90 on: November 25, 2016, 10:54:49 am »
Wordpress should be perfect for you then - the interface is all web based, so you can work it from your phone (Though it is much easier IMO on a bigger screen) and after its setup, apart from occasional tweaks & adding to your blog, there really isn't any onging work involved. :)

chris turner

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Re: How much work does a decent website generate
« Reply #91 on: November 25, 2016, 11:10:02 am »
Wordpress should be perfect for you then - the interface is all web based, so you can work it from your phone (Though it is much easier IMO on a bigger screen) and after its setup, apart from occasional tweaks & adding to your blog, there really isn't any onging work involved. :)

Nice one. But shouldn't you be trying to sell me one of your site's rather then encouraging me to use wordpress ;D

Nathanael Jones

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Re: How much work does a decent website generate
« Reply #92 on: November 25, 2016, 11:24:15 am »
This is one of those situations where being nice makes great business sense.

DIY sites are great starting out & many people haven't got the budget to pay me to build a site for them,... so if I can help them build a site themselves that brings in customers & helps their business grow, a couple of years from now when that site needs updating they'll have less time, more cash, and a positive impression of my services,.. so I'll probably get work out of it in the long run anyway. I've even got a Youtube channel with tutorials showing people how to build a site from start to finish. :)


Nice one. But shouldn't you be trying to sell me one of your site's rather then encouraging me to use wordpress ;D

chris turner

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Re: How much work does a decent website generate
« Reply #93 on: November 25, 2016, 11:46:32 am »
This is one of those situations where being nice makes great business sense.

DIY sites are great starting out & many people haven't got the budget to pay me to build a site for them,... so if I can help them build a site themselves that brings in customers & helps their business grow, a couple of years from now when that site needs updating they'll have less time, more cash, and a positive impression of my services,.. so I'll probably get work out of it in the long run anyway. I've even got a Youtube channel with tutorials showing people how to build a site from start to finish. :)


Nice one. But shouldn't you be trying to sell me one of your site's rather then encouraging me to use wordpress ;D

Got ya.
Budget is not really an issue for me (well within reason, not spending 3k on a site!), It's more about what will suit my needs.
I'm not a business looking to grow, more a business looking to change, at a steady pace.
That's why I can't decide on a full blown top notch site with all the bells and whistles or something simpler that's easy to maintain and will bring in a trickle of work.
Both have there pros and cons so will have to think about it.
I appreciate your honesty and help though nat 👍.

Nathanael Jones

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Re: How much work does a decent website generate
« Reply #94 on: November 25, 2016, 12:14:35 pm »
It is possible to do "all the bells & whistles" and still keep it low maintenance,... If you're not trying to grow the business & going crazy for first place rankings then you can cut right back on the updates & blog posts - so long as the main content is put together properly & the titles/tags etc for each page are SEO'd day one. ;)