[KS Cleaning]

Kempy, Coggan and Jonny. Can't remember their full names.

Thanks for the info, King wasn't involved in bringing it to market then,  although I still found it strange that he felt the need to comment in such a negative way about vision when he enthused about it before and seemed quite friendly on both this and another forum with the members who did bring it to market. Unless of course I have him mixed up with someone else in which case I will just shut up

[DaveG]

tried 2 versions both for 4 months, glass & frames well shiny when wet but no noticeable difference when dried,  tried hg glass cleaner & seemed exactly the same. i like using vision  but that makes me think any real  benefits are mostly in your head
still got 2 unopened bottles if anyone wants them

How much do you want for them?

how about £15 inc p&p

Ok mate, good with me. Do you want to email me your  PayPal ?



Cheers

[dazmond]

i still add a bit most days to my tank(vision V2) as ive got a bottle and a half left.i like it.i think it helps with hydrophobic glass and dodgy top rubber seals and adds a "gloss" and shine when washing as well as a few bubbles.

it might be the placebo effect and all in my mind but to me it FEELS BETTER WORKING WITH IT THAN WITHOUT IT!

[the king]

i used it, now don't bother  as i think it makes no difference ,no extra shine, no increased speed , all i use is hot pure cant see the need for a additive realy

Have you had a fall out? weren't you one of the founder members?

not that im aware of but i will tell it how it is and i used it for some time and lots of other mixes be for and i much pefer pl;ane 000 water its easy to be blinkerd in to thinking the glass is shiner i was for some time but after going back to 000 i never looked back some still luv it good luck to them but ill be sticking to 000 hot water wich i think  is beta

You never answered the question, I was asking if you were one of the three guys that was involved in bringing vision to the market?

  nope i was not one of the guys bringing it to market just a tester receving samples ect