[SeanK]

60 seems high though.
When cutting across top line, if water spray is too high, the flow of water goes up the glass (in a circle radius) ehich can then get into seals n pull dirty water back down.
 This may have been what happened perhaps?

Quite possibly yes, il try again in another 4 weeks on 40 lol

If your going to use a high flow you need to cut back the pressure either by using wider jets or adding a few more to the brush,
the aim is to get more water onto the glass without the power wash effect.

[Shrek]

Aha ! cheers Sean , maybe that's why it works for Nathan as I think he has 4 jets/ fans

[Perfect Windows]

If you're rinsing on the glass, the bristles above the jets form a curtain to stop the water hitting the top frame: you can go to as high flow as you wish without danger.

Vin

[Shrek]

If you're rinsing on the glass, the bristles above the jets form a curtain to stop the water hitting the top frame: you can go to as high flow as you wish without danger.

Vin

Good point vin , having looked at them this morning, they're ok but not as good as when I rinse. Could be my technique, maybe I noticed more as the south facing sun was shining right through ... But overall they're not bad

[SeanK]

If you're rinsing on the glass, the bristles above the jets form a curtain to stop the water hitting the top frame: you can go to as high flow as you wish without danger.

Vin

Have been unsuccessfully trying to hunt out a youtube video showing the action of the water on a high flow with too
much pressure, its filmed in slow motion showing  how much of the water is actually bouncing back against the brush stock
and running off it without ever touching the glass, rinsing on certainly helps but unless you have the brush stock pressed tightly
to the glass then there is still going to be a lot of waste.

[Shrek]

If you're rinsing on the glass, the bristles above the jets form a curtain to stop the water hitting the top frame: you can go to as high flow as you wish without danger.

Vin

Have been unsuccessfully trying to hunt out a youtube video showing the action of the water on a high flow with too
much pressure, its filmed in slow motion showing  how much of the water is actually bouncing back against the brush stock
and running off it without ever touching the glass, rinsing on certainly helps but unless you have the brush stock pressed tightly
to the glass then there is still going to be a lot of waste.

Might give better results if I used another brush that's got 3 ticks on gardiners website for rinsing on like a supreme soft or something like that

[Perfect Windows]

If you're rinsing on the glass, the bristles above the jets form a curtain to stop the water hitting the top frame: you can go to as high flow as you wish without danger.

Vin

Good point vin , having looked at them this morning, they're ok but not as good as when I rinse. Could be my technique, maybe I noticed more as the south facing sun was shining right through ... But overall they're not bad

Daft question but I'm assuming you're using a monofilament brush and fanjets?  I think there's a risk with anything else.

Proof of the pudding is in the eating, of course; I do my own windows every twelve weeks and inspect them carefully.  There's only ever a problem with one particular pane that's very hard to reach.

Vin

[Shrek]

If you're rinsing on the glass, the bristles above the jets form a curtain to stop the water hitting the top frame: you can go to as high flow as you wish without danger.

Vin

Good point vin , having looked at them this morning, they're ok but not as good as when I rinse. Could be my technique, maybe I noticed more as the south facing sun was shining right through ... But overall they're not bad

Daft question but I'm assuming you're using a monofilament brush and fanjets?  I think there's a risk with anything else.

Proof of the pudding is in the eating, of course; I do my own windows every twelve weeks and inspect them carefully.  There's only ever a problem with one particular pane that's very hard to reach.

Vin

I'm using the ultimate medium soft brush with fan jets , which brush do you use when rinsing on?

[Perfect Windows]

I'm using the ultimate medium soft brush with fan jets , which brush do you use when rinsing on?

Supreme soft hybrid, though some of the franchisees use the medium.  Used to use the same method with the medium mixed sill brush.

I tested the finish by contacting a bundle of customers who had, at one time or another, complained about a clean and spent a day doing their windows the new way.  Before I cleaned, I told them that if they inspected their windows and found a problem they would be doing me a favour by letting me know.  No calls bar one saying they were perfect, so I knew it was OK.

Vin

[Shrek]

I'm using the ultimate medium soft brush with fan jets , which brush do you use when rinsing on?

Supreme soft hybrid, though some of the franchisees use the medium.  Used to use the same method with the medium mixed sill brush.

I tested the finish by contacting a bundle of customers who had, at one time or another, complained about a clean and spent a day doing their windows the new way.  Before I cleaned, I told them that if they inspected their windows and found a problem they would be doing me a favour by letting me know.  No calls bar one saying they were perfect, so I knew it was OK.

Vin

Ok cheers pal , il order one and try again next month

[the king]

I've been going about 18 months now but still want to speed up further on maintenance cleans. Moving from a PF trolley to a van mount has made a massive difference, allowing me to clean approx 2 additional houses per day.

Just wondered what techniques or tools you use to help you get around more quickly and knock-off earlier...

carbon poles  ( less fatige )
good brush  (quicker cleaning)
hot water system  (quicker cleaning)
electric hose real   (less fatige)
univalve (saving water +quicker cleaning)
higher flow   (quicker cleaning) i have mine set at 60
all these will help ur get more work done in a day and speed u up 

[Nick Day]

I've actually found I get through less water on a high flow going faster than when I first started on a much lower flow! And the windows come up much better I've found myself.

[Shrek]

I've actually found I get through less water on a high flow going faster than when I first started on a much lower flow! And the windows come up much better I've found myself.

What flow do you have yours on Nick ? And which brush do you use?

[Perfect Windows]

Shrek,

Found this.  Me doing a clean at a normal rate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Kger9r_38

Minimal slug trails on the window to the right of the bay.  Twelve weeks since the last clean.

Checked after I cleaned and there were a few small drip marks on the left hand side of the bay (where I had to lean backwards over a pile of bricks to clean).

Flow at about 60 on the controller (about 2.5 litres a minute).  SLX22, Gardiners Supreme medium hybrid (since changed to soft).

Cue the Poisonous Brothers to tell you that I'm wearing the wrong clothes, showing off, doing a splash and dash, must be a poor job, my customers are mugs, franchises are a con, etc, etc ad nauseam.

Vin

[Shrek]

Shrek,

Found this.  Me doing a clean at a normal rate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Kger9r_38

Minimal slug trails on the window to the right of the bay.  Twelve weeks since the last clean.

Checked after I cleaned and there were a few small drip marks on the left hand side of the bay (where I had to lean backwards over a pile of bricks to clean).

Flow at about 60 on the controller (about 2.5 litres a minute).  SLX22, Gardiners Supreme medium hybrid (since changed to soft).

Cue the Poisonous Brothers to tell you that I'm wearing the wrong clothes, showing off, doing a splash and dash, must be a poor job, my customers are mugs, franchises are a con, etc, etc ad nauseam.

Vin

Cheers vin , appreciate that, I think 'rinsing on' saves a hell of a lot of water and time , just Gotta get my technique right. Where you scrub the top of the glass before moving up and down, I just did a side scrub once and then up and down and side to side. Before others criticise - upload your own video so we can see your technique 👍

[SeanK]

Shrek,

Found this.  Me doing a clean at a normal rate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Kger9r_38

Minimal slug trails on the window to the right of the bay.  Twelve weeks since the last clean.

Checked after I cleaned and there were a few small drip marks on the left hand side of the bay (where I had to lean backwards over a pile of bricks to clean).

Flow at about 60 on the controller (about 2.5 litres a minute).  SLX22, Gardiners Supreme medium hybrid (since changed to soft).

Cue the Poisonous Brothers to tell you that I'm wearing the wrong clothes, showing off, doing a splash and dash, must be a poor job, my customers are mugs, franchises are a con, etc, etc ad nauseam.

Vin

Nothing wrong with the cleaning, but I cant recommend or agree with anybody other than somebody in an old folks home wearing leather Moses sandals. lol.
Nice vid.

[nathankaye]

Glad someone put a vid up. I tried the other day to do one, but holding camera in one hand made it imposible to do. So going to do another and get someone to hold the camera.
In meantime, this is my failed attempt.
https://youtu.be/A41Dqsd3orY

[Smurf]

Nice vid Vin

That's a good example of how I would do it too as I find a good flow and rinsing on the glass like that is so much quicker.

[SeanK]

The problem when talking about high and low flows is everybody has a different idea of what a high and low flow actually is,
I wouldn't consider myself a high flow user but there would be as much if not more water running off the sills when I clean as
in Vins Video.
I wonder when some on here talk about a high flow are they comparing it to what some would consider a dribble.

[Shrek]

The problem when talking about high and low flows is everybody has a different idea of what a high and low flow actually is,
I wouldn't consider myself a high flow user but there would be as much if not more water running off the sills when I clean as
in Vins Video.
I wonder when some on here talk about a high flow are they comparing it to what some would consider a dribble.

I would relate the flow to be whatever my flow controller says as in high flow is 40+ on the digital flow controller